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Old 08-10-2004   #41
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coming to a football field soon finally...
from local Ohio newspaper

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/...veland_browns/

... quote from money grubbing Kevin Poston

"I never asked for No. 1 money,'' Poston insisted Monday. That's all their response. I haven't said anything. I don't negotiate in the media.''
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BEREA, Ohio -- First-round draft choice Kellen Winslow II agreed to terms Tuesday night on a six-year contract with the Cleveland Browns, ending his 12-day holdout, league sources confirmed for ESPN.com.

The contract is worth $29 million and could bring Winslow up to $40 million if he reaches all his incentives. The deal also includes a $16.5 million signing and option bonuses.
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Default Kellen Winslow.........a soldier!!

Good for a laugh :hehe:
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Old 08-13-2004   #46
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Early reviews on the Kellen Winslow Jr. contract do not favor the Browns' new management team.

Industry sources point to the fact that Winslow, a tight end, will receive approximately twice as much money over the life of the deal than last year's No. 6 pick, defensive tackle Johnathan Sullivan of New Orleans.

Winslow's contract, essentially a maximum of $40 million over six years, includes $16.5 million in guaranteed money. That is comprised of signing bonuses paid in four installments and other roster and option bonuses.

Only No. 1 pick Eli Manning and No. 2 choice Robert Gallery in the 2004 draft received more guaranteed money.

"They got crushed," one NFL team executive said of the Browns.

"Was it a good contract for the Browns? No," said a prominent player agent not involved in the process.
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Gotta admit--Cleveland sure works hard at being bad.
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you know what's funny about this whole thing...winslow kept saying he wanted his fair market value...how the hell does he know what his fair market value is...he's a tight end who hasn't played a snap in the nfl...i for one hope he is a huge bust(probably won't be though)
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True, he hasnt played a down in the NFL. But youve seen him at Miami. He takes over games. Is an all arround complete TE. He is worth more than the Ben Watsons, and Ben Troupe's. He will have more yards. Be a better blocker, and take the focus off of other primetime players.
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Well lets see what happens when he has a QB at the helm who doesnt suck.

2002 stats. Where he stomped the competition.

Catches 57
Yards 726
YPC 12.7
TD's 8

Even with Brock at QB he still got 60 catches for 605 yards on the season, and two 100+ yard games against good teams.

Besides, you dont have to have a TD in a game to take it over. 106 yards on 7 receptions isnt a bad way to do it either.
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He is worth more than the Ben Watsons, and Ben Troupe's. He will have more yards. Be a better blocker, and take the focus off of other primetime players.
Worth more is one thing--worth anything his mind can dream up is another. His contract averages to $6.6 mil per year. There is not a single Texans player with a cap hit that large this year. He gonna come up with more yards than AJ? The top 5 TE's in the NFL average $2.6 mil--is he gonna be 2.5 times as good as Gonzalez, Heap, or as Shannon Sharpe was.

He is getting twice the money the #6 spot got last year--the Browns were fools. Basically they gave him the money for both a pro-bowl/franchise TE and a pro-bowl/franchise Safety. Great cap management. That is the thing folks forget when they get caught up in the "he is the greatest..." hype. This is MLB where there is an open checkbook. You spend an extra 4 mil on a player that is money that can't be paid on the other 52 roster spots.
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I will say that 4th and long catch he had on Miami's last drive against West Virginia was awesome. That helped them avoid what would have been a huge upset.
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i as a winslow fan wanted him to have a solid debut and improve for the games down the road and shut up some of the nay-sayers. but then he goes and throws a punch, which i have yet to see, don't know if anyone else has. he can't do that and has to stop doing junk like that.
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