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Old 07-31-2004   #21
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Sassy: It's cool that you bring that up. He's a buddy of mine from Yahoo. I posted his newest cartoon "Breaking News" in the non sport forum on this message board. Bang's cartoons get better and better with each one.
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.... He's a buddy of mine from Yahoo....
Really? .. They are hilarious! Breaking News.. Ricky.. one of the best ever!
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Old 07-31-2004   #23
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We usually get a hint of what the next one will be about. He doesn't tell us too much because it would ruin it but he usually gives us an idea of what he's going to do. The one "Vick takes a ****" is my favorite one to date.
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(that picture reminds me of when I lived there)
the Brownies have all of their other picks signed now, so concentrating on Winslow is all that is left for them to take care of in the next 10 days or so.
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Everyone needs to remember, Winslow is more than just a football player .....he's a soldier.
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Maybe he wants to get on with the Texans.
He's hanging around Houston right now .. working out at Rice.
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John Clayton of ESPN mentioned that there is a possibility that Winslow doesn't have issue with the amount of the contract itself but with the escalator clauses. Perhaps the Browns set the performance levels to active those escalator clauses way too high for Winslow's and the Poston's tastes. This is pure speculation by John Clayton, but if that is the case I can understand it.
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i think the main problem is that his dad is on the negotiations, which i think is a bad idea. his dad thinks that his kid is the best, as most fathers do, and therefore thinks he should be paid like it. is he worth the money, i don't know and niether do you only time will tell, but he has to get on the field first.

the set rookie contracts sounds like a good deal, will never work with the contract rules in place in the nfl. this kids coming in want all the money they can get and i can't blame them because at anytime they can get cut and lose your money.
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you know i don't care if his dad is sitting in on the negotiations...kellen is a big boy he can make his own decisions and i'm sure just like every other "potential" superstar he thinks he's the best...bottom line he should realize that he's a rook and god's gift to football...take the offer the browns extended to him...it's more than fair...and go be a ball player...and sign some freakin autographs
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if you're telling me that winslow sr. doesn't have an influence on winsolw jr. i don't buy it. you're right he thinks he is the best but what makes it worse is that everyone around him says the same thing and that what makes his head bigger and want more money.
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Sr. has said publicly that he wants fair market value for his son. But what is Poston after, other than to break the bank?
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Sr. has said publicly that he wants fair market value for his son. But what is Poston after, other than to break the bank?
Anticipating that the bank will be much larger very soon, I would try and break it too.
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Charles Woodson and Julian Peterson are also represented by the Poston brothers, and they are also holding out for rediculous cash. Peterson wants Payton Manning money! Since both have the "franchise tag", Peterson might have to play for 8 million this year, and Woodson 6.2 million! Poor guys.
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kind of off topic, but my brother told me that woodson was working out in sugar land to keep in shape, maybe someone else heard about this.
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This entire situation makes the Lions look even smarter. They trade down one slot and get Roy Williams, the Brown's 2nd rounder, AND they don't have to deal with this negotiation nightmare.

If I were the Browns I would stick with my offer and let Winslow sit out a year if he didn't want it. The Brown's offer appears to be above what should be expected of the #6 slot.
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If I were the Browns I would stick with my offer and let Winslow sit out a year if he didn't want it. The Brown's offer appears to be above what should be expected of the #6 slot.
If he sits out the year and the dont sign him before next years draft he will be re-entered back into the draft and then the Brown lost a first and second round pick for nothing. That could, and probably will, cripple the team for a couple years....
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Looks like the Browns will cave in, and give Winslow what he wants. On SportsCenter they mentioned that the Browns were willing to budge from their "Best Offer". Not really a surprise, because Browns management has always been suspect.
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According to James Brown, Winslow reached an agreement with the Browns. The article doesnt give terms of deal but I bet K2 got what he wanted...

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2654904
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Yeah I'm sure he did, but at least with this 1st round pick the Browns will probably get their money's worth.
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