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Old 12-06-2005   #1
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One thing im scared of by waiting to fire Dom Capers is that we may not get the replacement we need.

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Because about 5 other NFL teams will also be looking for coach replacements. Who says that the top possible head coach available will automatically come here with jobs like the Packers, Lions, Raiders, and Ravens can be available.

Am I overly worrying or is this reality? I dont want to end up with another bum coach and more unsatisfying seasons....and depression.
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One thing im scared of by waiting to fire Dom Capers is that we may not get the replacement we need.

Why?

Because about 5 other NFL teams will also be looking for coach replacements. Who says that the top possible head coach available will automatically come here with jobs like the Packers, Lions, Raiders, and Ravens can be available.

Am I overly worrying or is this reality? I dont want to end up with another bum coach and more unsatisfying seasons....and depression.
The best thing we have going for us is no state income tax and the fact that the coach doesn't have to live in Green Bay, Detroit, Oakland or Baltimore. Detroit would have to can Millen to get a great coach because Millen is a joke and if I were any good, I wouldn't want to work for him. Oakland has old weird Al, and I wouldn't want to work for him either.

We have a personable non-buttinsky owner and great facilities, but we are a baby franchise. It will have to take a wheelbarrow of money and a coach with a nose for a challenge.

This season wasn't all about our "bum coach." As the saying goes, mistakes were made, but it wasn't all coaching. A coach can go from one job as a bum and go to the next job and be a Superbowl coach. It just isn't easy to coach a team without tradition and history--and a lot of coaches won't be up for that challenge and risk to their legacy and/or rep. That being said, I hope we get someone that is optimistic, a proven winner, and someone that can attract free agents to Houston.
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I'm sure there is already a short list ready for when the clock on the Niners game goes to double zero.
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Picking a coach is just a big crap shoot, kind of like drafting players. Who could have known that Bill Cowher would turn out to be the coach of the Steelers for all these years? There are been plenty of examples of guys coming out of no where to do a great job, and plenty of can't miss coaching prospects that could not get it done.

My concern is that it usually works best when the GM and the coach are on board with the vision of what kind of team they are trying to build. They should agree on the type of offense and defense to be run. I just don't see that with Casserly. To me, the pairing of Dom's desire to play grind it out offense and win with defense never seemed like a good match with Palmer's wide open offense. The Steelers are successful because they build around the lines and make running backs and line backers a draft priority. It seemed to me that Casserly's picks on the offense did not fit with Caper's vision of the team. If we are stuck with Casserly, I hope he will do a better job of finding his kind of coach.
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A positive aspect of coming to Houston as a new coach is that it's a challenge. Add to that Mcnair's w00pin' big sack of money if he _really_ wants the coach.
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I would assume that most coaches that will be hot commodities will be in the playoffs, so every other team would have to wait awhile also.
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I think Mcnair has learned that through the hiring of the coordinators of this team. I just hope he doesn't settle also for some guy like Mariucci.
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Last time he looked for a guy with head coaching experience and DC also had expansion experience. I don't think that will be necessary this time. I think the field is pretty wide open. Coaches usually don't get fired from good situations, so every opening has its problems. It comes down to recruiting, money, and a natural fit with who is here.
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I dont think there is anything to worry about.
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i wouldn't worry too much because look at the list of canidates that have emerged...a lot of them will want to come to houston because like it or not the majority of the nfl personel believe david carr to the real deal at QB...he might not be a hall of fame QB but he is a starter in this league...now that might change eventually but from what people think if he was with the chicago bears or the baltimore ravens those teams apparently would be highly winning teams...the other thing we have that not a lot of teams have going for them is a new facility and a owner that does not mettle in the coaching affairs...so don't worry...we'll get the offensive minded guy to get this line and QB back on track
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I'm scared of repeating this nightmare of a season again. I really hope this is the first and last time we have a season like this.
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Im scared of getting Mike Martz...

Just what we need the wrecking ball of the rams coming to houston to coach..

His philosophy of throwing 50 times a game will do wonders for our non existant offensive line..

I like Pendry and wish we would have fired Palmer Sooner we look less retarded on offense and things seem to be clicking to a degree...

I wouldnt mind a mariucci because we have a QB that can throw very good on the run and recievers who can get open...We just need a TE besides the mythical Joppru who lives on IR..

I think Coleman is the brunt of our secondary problems more so than Buchanon. I think He is a poor tackler and the combo of brown and earl really did a number on the running game. I think P Buch Was expecting Safety help that never came and was on an island and look for a major improvement next year...

My favorite Idea is to convert our D to a 4-3.. I really would like a Coordinator who has been successful over a period of time.. but wouldnt mind a coach that brings a defense that is aggressive.

my top 5 coach replacements

1. Joe Johnson - Eagles
2. Gary Kubiak - Broncos
3. Gunther Cunningham - Chiefs
4. Steve Mariucci
5. Jerry Gray - Buffalo or Monte Kiffin - TB

Honorable mention Joe Pendry.. He has put a better gameplan on the field for the offense.. and I love a coordinator calling plays from the sidelines.. it helps communication wise.
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Honestly, I think that Kubiak would be the best fit. I don't care if he doesn't interview well. He is running one of the best offenses in the league year in and year out and has experience with a quarterback who David Carr resembles. This team doesn't need a coach who is good with the media, they need a guy who is going to win games and put up points.
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OK but what do you fear most as far as coaching moves go?
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Mike Martz.

I think he is really overrated. He always seems to be the center of conflict too. Kyle Turley threatened to kill him, Kurt Warner claims that he was let go because he was too religious, I don't think we need that kind of conflict coming to the team after the season we are having. Plus if we drafted Reggie Bush he probably wouldn't even use him that much like he did to Marshall Faulk or any RB starting in '03. I think he was a product of Dick Vermeil's success.
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You Mean Jim Johnson Don't You?
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Jerek You Mean Jim Johnson Dc From Philly Don't You?
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One thing im scared of by waiting to fire Dom Capers is that we may not get the replacement we need.

Why?

Because about 5 other NFL teams will also be looking for coach replacements. Who says that the top possible head coach available will automatically come here with jobs like the Packers, Lions, Raiders, and Ravens can be available.

Am I overly worrying or is this reality? I dont want to end up with another bum coach and more unsatisfying seasons....and depression.
A.) Capers is not a "bum" coach. This year was abysmal, but his previous years were strong. B.) By waiting, you can see what else is available. There's always a chance that Fisher might be fired, and if that is the case the Texans might want him. Also, if you want a guy like Wade Phillips, you'd have to wait until the season is over or else you could be hit with tampering.
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I don't know why some of you guys are so hard on Martz. Granted, some of his playcalling can be a little ridiculous at times, but let's look at a couple things:

1. He was the OC of a team that has scored the most points in a season.

2. He was an OC and a HC on a team that went to back-to-back Super Bowls.

3. Faulk suffered the "John Madden Curse", and was never the same after that.

4. I believe he had back-to-back MVPs, someone correct me if I'm wrong. (Warner & Faulk).

5. Warner really jacked up his thumb, and could never throw the ball the way he used to, but was able to substitute another QB who really blew up.
The Rams were a Super Bowl contender until Vermeil left and Martz took over. Then they slipped very quickly into mediocrity. He may be a good OC, but I question his ability to be an effective HC. After all, the Rams don't want him back under any conditions. Wonder why>
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One thing im scared of by waiting to fire Dom Capers is that we may not get the replacement we need.

Why?

Because about 5 other NFL teams will also be looking for coach replacements. Who says that the top possible head coach available will automatically come here with jobs like the Packers, Lions, Raiders, and Ravens can be available.

Am I overly worrying or is this reality? I dont want to end up with another bum coach and more unsatisfying seasons....and depression.
Dont Worry, the Packers arent firing Mike Sherman, its too early, they were hampered my injuiries, The Lions will get someone, Probably not Kubiak, Norv Turner is in limbo for his lack of defense, Billick wont get fired, its only one bad season.

So who does that leave us with, asumming Both Leinart and Bush, He probably wont go back, The Texans could try to sign him, Jimmie Johnson would be a pleseant surprise, But realisticly, The He wont come,

Here are the list of Coaches we shoud take a look at

Steve Marriuci
Gary Kubiak(Maybe he will make David The next Randall Cunningham, Maybe)
Monte Kiffin
Jim Johnson(Eagles DC)
Pete Carroll
Jimmie Johnson(For GM and Head Coach )
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