Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > Football Talk > College Football & the 2014 NFL Draft
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


College Football & the 2014 NFL Draft The future stars of the NFL

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-05-2005   #1
HeartofHouston
Veteran
 
HeartofHouston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 8900 Braeswood
Age: 31
Posts: 405
Rep Power: 9 HeartofHouston is ridin' the pine
Default LenDale White.. Stay or Declare??

Do you think LenDale White of USC should declare for the draft or stay for his senior year...

I personally think that it all depends on what Bush does.. If Bush stays then he should declare knowing that's 1 less back that will be ahead of him and if Bush goes to the Draft then he should stay and increase his draft status when he gets a full work load at USC...

what do you think???
__________________
Nate Clements + Michael Griffin + Earl Everett + Marshawn Lynch = Texans
HeartofHouston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2005   #2
Corrosion
Hall of Fame
 
Corrosion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Northwest Houston
Age: 46
Posts: 31,233
Rep Power: 181073 Corrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respectedCorrosion is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

Lienart , Bush and a multitude of other players will be gone at seasons end .... they have likely run their course at the top of the polls . I'd probably declare in his position .
__________________



Hope is a poor mans disease.
Corrosion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2005   #3
tulexan
Hall of Fame
 
tulexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Age: 30
Posts: 5,080
Rep Power: 28 tulexan is a Hall of Famertulexan is a Hall of Famertulexan is a Hall of Famertulexan is a Hall of Famertulexan is a Hall of Famertulexan is a Hall of Famertulexan is a Hall of Famertulexan is a Hall of Famertulexan is a Hall of Famer
Default

I think he is going to stay. He put up 1000 yards and 20 touchdowns with half of the carries. If he stays and gets all of the carries he is a legitimate heisman candidate and probably a top 5 pick. Right now he would be an end of the 1st round pick. That is a big difference in contracts.
tulexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2005   #4
TexansCanes
All Pro
 
TexansCanes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: LSU
Age: 28
Posts: 600
Rep Power: 11 TexansCanes is ridin' the pine
Default

i think he should and will leave. he is probably the third back behind bush and williams (i think he is better than maroney) and would be a mid first rounder. next year he would still share some carries with dennis and probably wouldn't be the best prospect if peterson decided to come. 1000 yards and 20 td and winning your third ap national title might be a good as it gets for mr. white.
__________________
"He's a bad dude, I'd like to have him in our arsenal. I'd never run the ball."
TexansCanes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2005   #5
dc_txtech 
Subscribed Contributor
 
dc_txtech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Round Rock
Age: 31
Posts: 2,485
Rep Power: 51562 dc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respecteddc_txtech is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tulexan
I think he is going to stay. He put up 1000 yards and 20 touchdowns with half of the carries. If he stays and gets all of the carries he is a legitimate heisman candidate and probably a top 5 pick. Right now he would be an end of the 1st round pick. That is a big difference in contracts.
I agree with this completely
dc_txtech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2005   #6
Blake
MMQB
 
Blake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Spring
Section: 551
Posts: 10,787
Rep Power: 73433 Blake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respectedBlake is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

I think if he comes out, he will pull a Ronnie Brown, and shoot up in front of Williams, behind Bush.
Blake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2005   #7
HeartofHouston
Veteran
 
HeartofHouston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 8900 Braeswood
Age: 31
Posts: 405
Rep Power: 9 HeartofHouston is ridin' the pine
Default

I dont agree..

LenDale "May" be better than Maroney but i dont think people realize that.. and that would make him the 4th Back Taken.. (2nd-3rd Round)

If he stays for another year, he gets 1400 yrds rushing and ends up the 1st or 2nd back taken (Top 15 Pick) and that's only IF Peterson decides to come out.. If Peterson stays next year then he WILL be the first back taken..

Some GMs are gonna be wondering what he can do with a majority of the workload, and smart GM's would recognize that Reggie Bush was tiring out defenses.. which made the work load that much easier for LenDale White and vice versa..

By staying he can prove that he can carry a major part of the work load, he gets more experience and prepares himself for the NFL.. If he stays he will put hisself in a better position I guarantee it..
__________________
Nate Clements + Michael Griffin + Earl Everett + Marshawn Lynch = Texans
HeartofHouston is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 12-05-2005   #8
Huge
Hall of Fame
 
Huge's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Out yonder way...
Age: 42
Posts: 2,386
Rep Power: 16 Huge was voted MVPHuge was voted MVPHuge was voted MVPHuge was voted MVP
Default

Maroney being taken ahead of White doesn't mean White drops to the 2nd-3rd round (this assuming Maroney declares as well). It means White will be pushing some other player lower in the first.

He doesn't need to come back to prove he can "carry the load". Has Bush proven he can do this? I would go out on a limb and say he hasn't but it's not going to matter one bit...he's still going to be taken within the first 5 picks.

Ricky Williams decided he wanted to come back for his senior season. He won the Heisman and had one of the most productive NCAA careers of any RB ever. What did that get him? 2nd RB in draft status after being taken after Edgerrin James...a junior that declared early.

If your stock can't get much better...you declare. White fits this category. He has nothing left to prove. Only reason he should come back is if he enjoys the college game too much to leave and/or wants to finish his degree. Otherwise, he'd be crazy not to declare.
Huge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2005   #9
MorKnolle
Hall of Fame
 
MorKnolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,210
Rep Power: 0 MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle
Default

I think White depends on Bush, if Bush decides to stay then White comes out rather than backing Bush up for another year, while if Bush comes out then White stays and can be the star RB next year. I also don't think it's a matter of if Adrian Peterson will come out next year. If OU was the powerhouse they were last year then maybe he'd stay, but with all the talent they've lost I don't see him finding any reason to stay, and he'd basically be assured of being a top 5 pick barring any injuries. This year White would be behind Bush (if he comes out), DeAngelo Williams, and Lawrence Maroney for sure.
MorKnolle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2005   #10
HeartofHouston
Veteran
 
HeartofHouston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 8900 Braeswood
Age: 31
Posts: 405
Rep Power: 9 HeartofHouston is ridin' the pine
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Huge
Maroney being taken ahead of White doesn't mean White drops to the 2nd-3rd round (this assuming Maroney declares as well). It means White will be pushing some other player lower in the first.

He doesn't need to come back to prove he can "carry the load". Has Bush proven he can do this? I would go out on a limb and say he hasn't but it's not going to matter one bit...he's still going to be taken within the first 5 picks.

Ricky Williams decided he wanted to come back for his senior season. He won the Heisman and had one of the most productive NCAA careers of any RB ever. What did that get him? 2nd RB in draft status after being taken after Edgerrin James...a junior that declared early.

If your stock can't get much better...you declare. White fits this category. He has nothing left to prove. Only reason he should come back is if he enjoys the college game too much to leave and/or wants to finish his degree. Otherwise, he'd be crazy not to declare.
You're saying "Taken After Edge" as if Edge is not an awesome HB or something lol.. but yeah and with an extra year of college experience it helps you better prepare your body for the NFL.. everyone can agree with that.. There WILL be 3 backs taken ahead of him.. where as if he declares next year he could possibly be the 1st taken.. I'm pretty sure there are some GMs out there that would take White over Peterson.. but if not then at least the 2nd HB taken.. come on now you decide 3rd or 4th HB taken or: 1st or 2nd HB Taken..


Quote:
Originally Posted by MorKnolle
I think White depends on Bush, if Bush decides to stay then White comes out rather than backing Bush up for another year, while if Bush comes out then White stays and can be the star RB next year. I also don't think it's a matter of if Adrian Peterson will come out next year. If OU was the powerhouse they were last year then maybe he'd stay, but with all the talent they've lost I don't see him finding any reason to stay, and he'd basically be assured of being a top 5 pick barring any injuries. This year White would be behind Bush (if he comes out), DeAngelo Williams, and Lawrence Maroney for sure.

I completely agree with you. It all depends on Bush too..
__________________
Nate Clements + Michael Griffin + Earl Everett + Marshawn Lynch = Texans
HeartofHouston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2005   #11
MorKnolle
Hall of Fame
 
MorKnolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,210
Rep Power: 0 MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeartofHouston
If he declares next year he could possibly be the 1st taken.. I'm pretty sure there are some GMs out there that would take White over Peterson.. but if not then at least the 2nd HB taken.. come on now you decide 3rd or 4th HB taken or: 1st or 2nd HB Taken..
I personally would pick Peterson over White and think that most NFL GMs would, but that is at least a year off so we'll have to wait and see.
MorKnolle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2005   #12
HeartofHouston
Veteran
 
HeartofHouston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 8900 Braeswood
Age: 31
Posts: 405
Rep Power: 9 HeartofHouston is ridin' the pine
Default

And that's also "IF" adrian peterson actually declares and none of really know whats going on thru his mind right now.. so youre right we'll just have to wait and see...
__________________
Nate Clements + Michael Griffin + Earl Everett + Marshawn Lynch = Texans
HeartofHouston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2005   #13
MorKnolle
Hall of Fame
 
MorKnolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,210
Rep Power: 0 MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle MorKnolle
Default

True, but I seriously doubt Peterson stays after next year since OU probably still won't be in national championship contention and he will be a lock for a top 5 pick, but we'll have to wait and see how next year plays out on that one.
MorKnolle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2005   #14
Texas_Thrill
Hall of Fame
 
Texas_Thrill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: H-Town stomping once again!
Age: 34
Posts: 1,473
Rep Power: 12 Texas_Thrill is on the Pro-Bowl ballotTexas_Thrill is on the Pro-Bowl ballot
Default

I think White has to come out. There is no way he can risk injury next year trying to prove he's the MAN when he's losing the entire offense and he'd be the only weapon back basically with some experience. Mid to late first round money is better than no money if he's hurt.

Not to mention he's a power back which means his lifespan as a RB is shorter. I think powerbacks needs to come out after 3 ....i.e. see BENSON and how that went wrong or Ron Dayne and not the denver dayne but giant one.
__________________
Texans messageboard.....where everyone is a damn draft expert.
Texas_Thrill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2005   #15
ArlingtonTexan
Moderator
 
ArlingtonTexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 47
Posts: 6,039
Rep Power: 73193 ArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

I saw somewhere that white is not exactly fond of being a college student, and that will weight heavily into his decision.
ArlingtonTexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2005   #16
Huge
Hall of Fame
 
Huge's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Out yonder way...
Age: 42
Posts: 2,386
Rep Power: 16 Huge was voted MVPHuge was voted MVPHuge was voted MVPHuge was voted MVP
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeartofHouston
You're saying "Taken After Edge" as if Edge is not an awesome HB or something lol.. but yeah and with an extra year of college experience it helps you better prepare your body for the NFL.. everyone can agree with that.. There WILL be 3 backs taken ahead of him.. where as if he declares next year he could possibly be the 1st taken.. I'm pretty sure there are some GMs out there that would take White over Peterson.. but if not then at least the 2nd HB taken.. come on now you decide 3rd or 4th HB taken or: 1st or 2nd HB Taken..
We're not talking about the James that just became the 3rd fastest RB to reach 9,000 yards. We're talking about the James that blew up his junior year of college and declared early for the draft. Back then, people questioned whether or not the Colts took the right RB.

And just like Ricky returning, there's no guarantee he'll be the first (or second, or third) RB taken just because there's only one (Peterson) that is projected to maybe go ahead of him in the draft for '07.
Huge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2005   #17
Texas_Thrill
Hall of Fame
 
Texas_Thrill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: H-Town stomping once again!
Age: 34
Posts: 1,473
Rep Power: 12 Texas_Thrill is on the Pro-Bowl ballotTexas_Thrill is on the Pro-Bowl ballot
Default

Why would he care which back he was taken? If he's taken 3rd or 4th could mean he's the fourth back taken and a top 10 pick. Remember Cadillac Williams????

or he could be the 2nd back taken and be taken 32nd.

Plus he needs to be put in the right situation and team. That helps a great deal. He appears to be a bruiser but does anyone know what his height and weight is? He sorta reminds me of Bam Morris.
__________________
Texans messageboard.....where everyone is a damn draft expert.
Texas_Thrill is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > Football Talk > College Football & the 2014 NFL Draft
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger