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Old 12-05-2005   #1
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In a coffee room conversation this morning at work, a coworker who is not a football enthusiast asked a simple but poignant question -

Given the beating that Carr is taking, as bad as our O-line is, the poor winning record of the Texans, why would David want to come back here next year?

My first reaction was for the money, and continued on to explain the rather large bonus and salary David would make next year if the Texans pickup the options. My coworker seemed unmoved by my answer. But, when you consider the short live of a NFL player, why would you want to stay someplace that will make it even shorter?

The comparison on TV yesterday between Marino's 58 sacs after 4 years in the NFL and Carr's 200+ kept popping into my mind. David has been very fortunate not to be seriously injured thus far in his career. How long will it last?

If you were David Carr, would you want the Texans to pick up the option and take the money now with the expectation of playing until I'm hurt or would you prefer to cut and run to another team that can protect you better in the hopes of extending you career?

Personally, I would take the money!
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Because of the respect he has for Bob McNair.

And to prove that he's not the next Tim Couch.
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Maybe I should have put this in a poll.

The question isn't what you think DC would or will do, it's what would you do?
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Carr has no choice since it is the Texans option. He agreed to come back and play next year way back in 2002 when he signed this original deal. The extension is just a Texans option, not a David Carr opt out option.
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The truth is somewhere in middle of our message board rants about Carr's development. There is plenty hindgsight fault to go around - Front office, Coaching, Carr, Oline, WR's. But we as fans, a team and a QB are where we are. This will be a business decision based on dollars and a potential staff's new vision.

I think DC gets the most fiscal upside of his current market value here in Houston or in California due to other revenue streams. The only team I could see him going to that would make sense for him would be the Raiders.

It has been my take that we release him and sign him a coupe of points above the market value. I just feel that this will be no where near what the two year option would be, but this is my own opinion with no facts to support it.

Any potential moves will have to wait until we know what the front office and staff will look like next year.
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I've found mostly without exception that most NFL players will state

a) they are happy where they are at.

b) if they are moved they will say they are glad they got a chance with a new team.

c) it's a business to these guys...they realize career time is short and try to make the most of it.


I think David has a nice family and he's apparently devoted to them. My feeling is he'd be happy wherever he's at as long as his family is with him.

I don't think David wants to go elsewhere but I at the same time think he'd make the best of it and just go with the flow.
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I read somewhere once, and I believe it to be true to a large extent, that most professional sports players want to remain with the franchise that drafted them and gave them a shot (those that are given a shot by the drafting team). It's not until they are traded or exposed to free agency that they really start to develop the cynical attitude of "it's a business" that you see from some of the vets. Think about how naive you were coming out of college.
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I'd accept that except these guys have agents and lawyers advising them right away about all the business aspects of NFL football.

I do think these guys give their all to their team and the city of that team but at the same time I don't think it's that big of a deal for them to go to another team.

And really when you think about it people in all walks of life move everyday for jobs. It's not just NFL players.
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I'd stay and see through what I started if I was Carr.

He's shown in the past that he's capable of putting up big yards. Get some protection for the guy, pick up a #2 reciever to compliment AJ and roll from there.
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Carr has no choice since it is the Texans option. He agreed to come back and play next year way back in 2002 when he signed this original deal. The extension is just a Texans option, not a David Carr opt out option.
That's not really true, he could go ahead and aske the TExans not to pick up his option because he doesn't want to play for the me anymore (see Glenn).
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That's not really true, he could go ahead and aske the TExans not to pick up his option because he doesn't want to play for the me anymore (see Glenn).
I did not think of that one, excellent point.
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That's not really true, he could go ahead and aske the TExans not to pick up his option because he doesn't want to play for the me anymore (see Glenn).
It's true...he can ask all he wants but he is the property of the Texans as long as the Texans say so as per the terms of the contract. The only way Carr has control is to break the terms of the contract if the Texans pick it up. The point is that it's not his choice to pick up.
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Carr has more power in this situation than you think. Glenn had no "power" in his contract to do anything, but somehow he's playing where he wants to. It's not by magic.
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