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Old 12-05-2005   #1
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Defensive coordinator Vic Fangio was the one under fire from some of the players, who questioned his call for an all-out blitz with 20 seconds remaining.
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Imagine that. It has already been commented on this board by many of the credible posters that the players were not happy about this defense. I mean it is the reason why Sharper got canned for speaking out about it, and Gary Walker may have just punched his ticket to go to another team. Fangio's system has never worked and I doubt it will ever work in the pro game. He needs to just call his defense a soft Cover 2 that tries to stiffen in the redzone and leave it at that.
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The guy sits his guys in a 8man blanket zone and picks THAT time to bring the house. What a stupid collection of coaches. First Dom plays for the field goal and doesnt even try to pick up a first down. Im not saying throw a pass but the boot was workin good when used but what do I know im not the coach....
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Worst of all, Fangio called a timeout to set up the blitz. With the Ravens in a frantic two-minute mode, he gave them a chance to regroup and plan for the blitz.

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Our whole front office and coaches remind me of the little Sicilian guy in The Prince's bride . The one who was so smart in got into a battle of wits to the death and ended up poisoning himself .
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Our whole front office and coaches remind me of the little Sicilian guy in The Prince's bride . The one who was so smart in got into a battle of wits to the death and ended up poisoning himself .
Inconcievable. Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
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Worst of all, Fangio called a timeout to set up the blitz. With the Ravens in a frantic two-minute mode, he gave them a chance to regroup and plan for the blitz.

http://houstonchronicle.com/disp/sto...e/3502573.html
True, that's the worst. In regards to the actual call, last week we tried cover and got killed, this time we tried the blitz and... same result. Perhaps Capers are not entirely off when he mentions lack of execution...
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Artical says thet Fagio AND Capers talked it over and came up with the play.
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It's almost as if they decided to do the exact opposite of what they did last week hoping it would work. I think putting pressure on Boller was a good idea, but to send everyone? That is just asking for a loss.
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But they called the play to stay in contention for the draft!
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We as fans have complained that they are too passive with the blitz , now that they blitz we complain that they shouldnt have ..... Until they get more talent the defensive scheme or gameplan will not matter . The result will remain the same ... the losses will pile up .

We fail to remember that the Texans lost Two Pro Bowl calibur players from this defense over the off-season ..... How much of the Texans woes this season can you attribute to that ?

Fangio is likely gone at seasons end along with Capers and the rest of his staff ..... In the mean time lets hope this staff can continue their losing ways and leave the next regime the #1 pick in the coming draft ...and hope that Casserly doesnt blunder .....:brickwall
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Inconcievable. Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
Let the entire team drink poison.... I detect a flaw here
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I say execute the whole coaching staff except the special teams coach.
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Not after his team's performance yesterday, they were awful.
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Why the coaches ?


Its the coaches job to come up with a plan that puts a team in a position to win .... last two weeks they have done so .


Its the players job to execute the gameplan ...... They have failed to execute more often than not this season .... place the blame where its deserved , squarely on the shoulder of the players .
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We as fans have complained that they are too passive with the blitz , now that they blitz we complain that they shouldnt have ..... Until they get more talent the defensive scheme or gameplan will not matter . The result will remain the same ... the losses will pile up .

We fail to remember that the Texans lost Two Pro Bowl calibur players from this defense over the off-season ..... How much of the Texans woes this season can you attribute to that ?

Fangio is likely gone at seasons end along with Capers and the rest of his staff ..... In the mean time lets hope this staff can continue their losing ways and leave the next regime the #1 pick in the coming draft ...and hope that Casserly doesnt blunder .....:brickwall
Corrosion this is close to your worst post ever in a string of bad post. Not only do you want your team to lose which is just pathetic, but you completely miss what posters are talking about on this particular thread. Look man I dont mean to attack, but damn man just read the post. No one is upset with the blitzing. We like when they play aggressive, but sending an all out blitz after calling a timeout to let the offense prepare is just a bad call. Boller was in a shotgun formation and this of all the times is when you call a blitz it is just a really bad call. At that point yeah you send pressure, but the best play would have been to send the blitz have a saftey deep and drop one or two LBs into middle zones to prevent the slant or middle pass.
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Why the coaches ?


Its the coaches job to come up with a plan that puts a team in a position to win .... last two weeks they have done so .


Its the players job to execute the gameplan ...... They have failed to execute more often than not this season .... place the blame where its deserved , squarely on the shoulder of the players .
That's just it. They put the players in a position to lose with this call. When the opposing QB is in shotgun (with max protect, no less), players are bucking the odds trying to execute an all-out blitz. If he's not in the shotgun, their odds go up, but it's still a tough spot in which to be placed.
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On that play I was helping with homework . I looked up and saw Clayton heading down the field .
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Corrosion this is close to your worst post ever in a string of bad post. Not only do you want your team to lose which is just pathetic, but you completely miss what posters are talking about on this particular thread.


Yes I want them to continue to lose .... not only because of the draft position but mainly because I and most other fans dont want to see the current coaching staff with ANY chance to return next season .... I dont think I could stand another season of watching Capers attempt to catch flies on the sidelines ...If the best way to rid ourselves of this staff is to lose ... so be it ..... What happens when they win the resof of this seasons games ? I dont want to find out !


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Look man I dont mean to attack, but damn man just read the post. No one is upset with the blitzing. We like when they play aggressive, but sending an all out blitz after calling a timeout to let the offense prepare is just a bad call.
Play Calling is more or less a chess match .... Capers and Fangio lost this time as they have the majority of the season . Had they come up with a sack , Int or even enough pressure to force an incompletion we wouldnt be having this conversation . We would probably be complaining that they won .... and that Capers had just saved his job

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Boller was in a shotgun formation and this of all the times is when you call a blitz it is just a really bad call. At that point yeah you send pressure, but the best play would have been to send the blitz have a saftey deep and drop one or two LBs into middle zones to prevent the slant or middle pass.
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