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Old 12-03-2005   #1
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Detroit trades their 1st and 2nd round picks and next years first to Houston for 1st overall and Houston's 4th rounder.

Minnesota trades thier 1st and 2nd round picks and next years first to Cleveland for 5th overall.

1. Detroit(Houston) (1-15) - Matt Leinart QB USC
2. New York Jets (2-14) - Reggie Bush* RB USC
3. San Francisco (3-13) - DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
4. Green Bay (3-13) - Mario Williams* DE N.C. State
5. Minnesota(Cleveland) (4-12) - A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio State
6. Houston(Detroit) (4-12) - Vince Young* QB Texas
7. Tennessee (4-12) - Joe Thomas* OT Wisconson
8. New Orleans (4-12) - Jimmy Williams CB Virginia Tech
9. Arizona (5-11) - D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia
10. Miami (6-10) - Haloti Ngata* NT Oregon
11. St. Louis (6-10) - Ko Simpson* S South Carolina
12. Buffalo (6-10) - Rodrique Wright DT Texas
13. Oakland (6-10) - DeMeco Ryans OLB Alabama
14. Baltimore (7-9) - Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston College
15. Philadelphia (7-9) - Jon Scott OT Texas
16. Cleveland(Minnesota) (8- - Daryn Colledge OT Boisie State
17. Kansas City (8- - Martin Nance WR Miami(Oh)
18. Denver (from Wash) (8- - Darnell Bing* S USC
19. Dallas (9-7) - Ahmad Brooks* ILB Virginia
20. Tampa Bay (10-6) - Eric Winston OT Miami(Fla)
21. Atlanta (10-6) - Laurence Maroney* RB Minnesota
22. New England (10-6) - Michael Huff S/CB Texas
23. Chicago (11-5) - Marcedes Lewis TE UCLA
24. Pittsburgh (11-5) - LenDale White* RB USC
25. San Diego (11-5) - LaRon Landry S LSU
26. Jacksonville (12-4) - Tye Hill CB Clemson
27. New York Giants (12-4) - Chad Greenway OLB Iowa
28. Seattle (13-3) - Santonio Holmes* WR Ohio State
29. Cincinnati (13-3) - Tamba Hali DE Penn State
30. Denver (13-3) - Greg Eslinger C Minnesota
31. Carolina (13-3) - Vernon Davis* TE Maryland
32. Indianapolis (16-0) - Ernie Sims* OLB Florida State

33. Houston - Winston Justice OT USC
34. New York Jets - Jesse Mahelona DT Tennessee
35. San Fransisco - Claude Wroten DT/DE LSU
36. Green Bay - Max Jean - Gilles OG Georgia
37. Cleveland - Bobby Carpenter OLB Ohio State
38. Houston(Detroit) - Andrew Whitworth OT LSU
39. Tennessee - Darryl Tapp DE Virginia Tech
40. New Orleans - D'Qwell Jackson MLB Maryland
41. Arizona - Jay Cutler QB Vanderbelt
42. Miami - Manny Lawson OLB N.C. State
43. St. Louis - Will Blackmon CB Boston College
44. Buffalo - Derek Hagan WR Arizona State
45. Oakland - Greg Blue S Georgia
46. Baltimore - Marcus McNeil OT Auburn
47. Philedelphia - Thomas Howard OLB UNLV
48. Cleveland(Minnesota) - Orein Harris DT Miami(Fla)
49. Kansas City - Omar Jacobs QB Bowling Green
50. Washington - Elvis Dumervil DE Louisville
51. Dallas - Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
52. Tampa Bay - Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
53. Atlanta - Ray Edwards DE Purdue
54. New England - Michael Bush RB Lousville
55. Chicago - Abdul Hodge MLB Iowa
56. Pittsburgh - Mike DeGory C Florida
57. San Diego - Jeremy Trueblood OT Boston College
58. Jacksonville - Leonard Pope TE Georgia
59. New York Giants - Jason Allen CB Tennessee
60. Seatle - Eric Henderson DE Georgia Tech
61. Cincinnati - Gabe Watson DT Michigan
62. Denver - Demetrius Williams WR Oregon
63. Carolina - AJ Nicholson OLB Florida State
64. Indianapolis - Kelly Jennings CB Miami(Fla)

65. Houston - Dominique Byrd TE USC
66. New York Jets - Will Derting OLB Washington State
67. San Fransisco - Brenard Pollard S Purdue
68. Green Bay - Justin London MLB UCLA
69. Cleveland - Steve Fifita NT Utah
70. Detroit - Ryan O'Callaghan OT California
71. Buffalo(Tennessee) - Terna Nande OLB Miami(Oh)
72. Houston(New Orleans) - Daniel Bullocks S Nebraska
73. Arizona - Jonathan Lewis DT Virginia Tech
74. Miami - Darrell Hackney QB UAB
75. St. Louis - Spencer Havner OLB UCLA
76. Buffalo - Darrell Hunter CB Miami(Oh)
77. Oakland - Kamerion Wimbley DE Florida State
78. New England(Baltimore) - Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
79. Philadelphia - Dontrell Moore RB New Mexico
80. Minnesota - Mark Setterstrom OG Minnesota
81. Kansas City - DeMario Minter CB Georgia
82. Washington - Hank Baskett WR New Mexico
83. Dallas - Nate Salley S Ohio State
84. Tampa Bay - Nick Mangold C Ohio State
85. Atlanta - Cedric Griffin CB Texas
86. New England - Freddie Roach ILB Alabama
87. Chicago - Brad Smith WR Missouri
88. Pittsburgh - Todd Watkins WR BYU
89. San Diego - Jason Avant WR Michigan
90. Jacksonville - Taitusi Lutui OG USC
91. New York Giants - LeKevin Smith DT Nebraska
92. Seatle - Pierre Woods OLB Michigan
93. Cincinnati - Jeff King TE Virginia Tech
94. Denver - Babtunde Oshinowo DT Stanford
95. Carolina - Matt Lentz OG Michigan
96. Indianapolis - Gerald Riggs Jr. RB Tennessee

97. Houston - Larry Dibbles DT Texas
98. New York Jets - Drew Olsen QB UCLA
99. San Fransisco - Travis Leffew OT Louisville
100. Green Bay - Leon Washington RB Florida State
101. Cleveland - Anwar Phillips CB Penn State
102. New England(Detroit) - Jovan Nanton OLB Miami(Fla)
103. Tennessee - Greg Threat S Miami(Fla)
104. New Orleans - Pat Watkins S Florida State
105. Arizona - Donnie McCleskey S California
106. Miami - Adam Stenavich OT Michigan
107. St. Louis - Joe Klopfenstein TE Colorado
108. Buffalo - David Thomas TE Texas
109. Oakland - Dusty Dvoracek DT Oklahoma
110. Baltimore - Will Alen OG Texas
111. Philedelphia - Victor Adeyanju DE Indiana
112. Minnesota - Jahri Evans OG Bloomsburg
113. Kansas City - Jahmile Addae S West Virigina
114. Denver(Washington) - Devan Long DE Oregon
115. Philadelphia(Dallas) - Mike Hass WR Oregon State
116. Tampa Bay - Garrett Mills TE Tulsa
117. Atlanta - Roman Harper S Alabama
118. New England - Cletis Gordon CB Jackson State
119. Chicago - Chijioke Onyenegecha CB Oklahoma
120. Pittsburgh - Brandon Guillory DE/OLB UL-Monroe
121. San Diego - Tim McGarigle ILB Northwestern
122. Jacksonville - Jerome Harrison RB Washington State
123. New York Giants - Jabari Levey OT South Carolina
124. Seatle - Tim Day TE Oregon
125. Cincinnati - Eric Bassey CB Oklahoma
126. Denver - Nick Reid ILB Kansas
127. Carolina - Joseph Addai RB LSU
128. Philadelphia(Indianapolis) - Aaron Harris MLB Texas

Cleveland Browns Draft:

1.(Minnesota) Daryn Colledge OT Boisie State
2. Bobby Carpenter OLB Ohio State
2.(Minnesota) Orein Harris DE Miami(Fla)
3. Steve Fifita NT Utah
4. Anwar Phillips CB Penn State
5. Manase Hopoi DE Washington
5. Steve Weatherford P/KO Illinois
6. Montavious Stanley NT Louisville
7. DeDe Dorsey RB/DB Lindenwood

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15. Philadelphia (7-9) - Jon Scott OT Texas
47. Philedelphia - Thomas Howard OLB UNLV
79. Philadelphia - Dontrell Moore RB New Mexico
111. Philedelphia - Victor Adeyanju DE Indiana
115. Philadelphia(Dallas) - Mike Hass WR Oregon State
128. Philadelphia(Indianapolis) - Aaron Harris MLB Texas
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I thought we traded our 4th rounder to Detroit. We don't have two 4th round picks do we?
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We aren't picking Vince Young.
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Amen, NO VINCE YOUNG. I doubt he comes out and if he does we will not pick him, period. The rest of this mock draft is not very good either.
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Detroit trades their 1st and 2nd round picks and next years first to Houston for 1st overall and Houston's 4th rounder.

Minnesota trades thier 1st and 2nd round picks and next years first to Cleveland for 5th overall.

1. Detroit(Houston) (1-15) - Matt Leinart QB USC
2. New York Jets (2-14) - Reggie Bush* RB USC
3. San Francisco (3-13) - DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
4. Green Bay (3-13) - Mario Williams* DE N.C. State
5. Minnesota(Cleveland) (4-12) - A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio State
6. Houston(Detroit) (4-12) - Vince Young* QB Texas
7. Tennessee (4-12) - Joe Thomas* OT Wisconson
8. New Orleans (4-12) - Jimmy Williams CB Virginia Tech
9. Arizona (5-11) - D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia
10. Miami (6-10) - Haloti Ngata* NT Oregon
11. St. Louis (6-10) - Ko Simpson* S South Carolina
12. Buffalo (6-10) - Rodrique Wright DT Texas
13. Oakland (6-10) - DeMeco Ryans OLB Alabama
14. Baltimore (7-9) - Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston College
15. Philadelphia (7-9) - Jon Scott OT Texas
16. Cleveland(Minnesota) (8- - Daryn Colledge OT Boisie State
17. Kansas City (8- - Martin Nance WR Miami(Oh)
18. Denver (from Wash) (8- - Darnell Bing* S USC
19. Dallas (9-7) - Ahmad Brooks* ILB Virginia
20. Tampa Bay (10-6) - Eric Winston OT Miami(Fla)
21. Atlanta (10-6) - Laurence Maroney* RB Minnesota
22. New England (10-6) - Michael Huff S/CB Texas
23. Chicago (11-5) - Marcedes Lewis TE UCLA
24. Pittsburgh (11-5) - LenDale White* RB USC
25. San Diego (11-5) - LaRon Landry S LSU
26. Jacksonville (12-4) - Tye Hill CB Clemson
27. New York Giants (12-4) - Chad Greenway OLB Iowa
28. Seattle (13-3) - Santonio Holmes* WR Ohio State
29. Cincinnati (13-3) - Tamba Hali DE Penn State
30. Denver (13-3) - Greg Eslinger C Minnesota
31. Carolina (13-3) - Vernon Davis* TE Maryland
32. Indianapolis (16-0) - Ernie Sims* OLB Florida State
Just keeping it in the first round, I don't see these teams making these picks at all. We will not draft Vince Young, Baltimore needs to help its offense, not draft another DE, Philadelphia will likely pick the best available WR since they are losing Owens, Atlanta and Pittsburgh are probably the last two teams in the NFL that would need to draft a RB, along with Denver.
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great effort, unfortunatly the entire mock is not very good at all. it seems as if little homework was done into team needs, especially our own. :brickwall
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Amen, NO VINCE YOUNG. I doubt he comes out and if he does we will not pick him, period. The rest of this mock draft is not very good either.
I don't know. I had this crazy feeling when I saw Young holding up that Big 12 Championship trophy in our stadium.

Mcnair is going to have to give the fans a reason to come back next year. Although I am sure they don't want QB contreversies and the city of Houston is notorious for that. Let Carr screw up once and everyone will be screaming for Young. Heck, everyone wants to see Banks in now. But I think it would only do two things: 1) Bring out the best in Carr or 2) Allow the franchise to finally come to terms that Carr is not the answer to our problems.
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I don't know. I had this crazy feeling when I saw Young holding up that Big 12 Championship trophy in our stadium.

Mcnair is going to have to give the fans a reason to come back next year. Although I am sure they don't want QB contreversies and the city of Houston is notorious for that. Let Carr screw up once and everyone will be screaming for Young. Heck, everyone wants to see Banks in now. But I think it would only do two things: 1) Bring out the best in Carr or 2) Allow the franchise to finally come to terms that Carr is not the answer to our problems.
I've got an answer to that...Two words. Reggie Bush.
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I know but if that scenario played out and Young was still available we gotta go with Young.
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No then we would go with D'Brickinshaw Ferguson and shore up our OL.
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I don't know. I had this crazy feeling when I saw Young holding up that Big 12 Championship trophy in our stadium.

Mcnair is going to have to give the fans a reason to come back next year. Although I am sure they don't want QB contreversies and the city of Houston is notorious for that. Let Carr screw up once and everyone will be screaming for Young. Heck, everyone wants to see Banks in now. But I think it would only do two things: 1) Bring out the best in Carr or 2) Allow the franchise to finally come to terms that Carr is not the answer to our problems.
I'm not a "VY hater" but the last thing I want McNair doing is telling the GM (whoever it may be) who they need to draft to make some local fans happy for more $$$. Want to see a franchise crash and burn? Before long we'd be known as the Hindenberg Texans - How would you like to see this on the side of the helmets?

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The Texans own the Saints 3rd round selection in the '06 draft.
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I don't think we need to draft a certain player in order to appease the fans and keep them coming to games. All we need to do is exhibit some sort of competence in personnel decisions and show that the team is heading in the right direction. In my mind drafting Vince Young shows that we are continuing down the regression path.
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I don't think we need to draft a certain player in order to appease the fans and keep them coming to games. All we need to do is exhibit some sort of competence in personnel decisions and show that the team is heading in the right direction. In my mind drafting Vince Young shows that we are continuing down the regression path.

I totally agree with you but there is NO WAY IN HELL that you could pass on Young if he was still there at that position....but I think he will stick to his word and promise to stay and finish school so I seriously doubt he comes out...or atleast I hope he doesnt come out...it seems like the Longhorns are the only football we can hang some serious hopes on at the moment.
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I could easily pass on Vince Young because we don't need another QB and we definitely don't need one that is going to probably take two years to get accustomed to the NFL and become a decent NFL QB. I would have a much harder time passing on Reggie Bush, although at the moment I don't think he would be the best pick for us either.
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I totally agree with you but there is NO WAY IN HELL that you could pass on Young if he was still there at that position....but I think he will stick to his word and promise to stay and finish school so I seriously doubt he comes out...or atleast I hope he doesnt come out...it seems like the Longhorns are the only football we can hang some serious hopes on at the moment.
I could pass on him. D'Brickinshaw Ferguson is still on the board.
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Nice job stealing a mock from someone on the NFLDraftCountdown forum and passing it off as your own since you changed the Texans picks...Looks like it's time to head back to the drawing board there, slugger...
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Nice job stealing a mock from someone on the NFLDraftCountdown forum and passing it off as your own since you changed the Texans picks...Looks like it's time to head back to the drawing board there, slugger...
What's even worse is I liked the other persons mock better.
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