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Old 11-23-2005   #1
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I don't think anything can save capers and casserly their jobs. Even if they win the next 6 games it will still be very doubtful. By the fourth year, everyone was expecting this team to make the playoffs. Capers as a coach anyways.
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I think 6 wins would save their jobs, but it's not gonna happen.
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Probably a strong sweep of the remaining games would bring them back for another season. I don't mind admitting that I hope that doesn't happen. I'd rather watch six more losses and know Capers and his staff (with one or two exceptions) were out of here than see six wins and know he was coming back.

This is about the bigger picture. Winning a bunch of games against bad teams wouldn't mean much to me at this point. I want this team put on the right track and the results we've been seeing after four years clearly show that we've been on the wrong track for some time.
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Capers and Casserly come up with a master plan to kidnap Mcnair's entire family and mail in death threats. Anything short and they're gone
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Probably a strong sweep of the remaining games would bring them back for another season. I don't mind admitting that I hope that doesn't happen. I'd rather watch six more losses and know Capers and his staff (with one or two exceptions) were out of here than see six wins and know he was coming back.

This is about the bigger picture. Winning a bunch of games against bad teams wouldn't mean much to me at this point. I want this team put on the right track and the results we've been seeing after four years clearly show that we've been on the wrong track for some time.

I don't think much could save Capers job. Even if it weren't completely his fault that the season went this way, they have to make a change at the end of the season to fill the seats. They are probably not gonna lose much of the PSL peeps, but they are worried about holding on to the 600s people.

I don't think most of the ticket holding public has such strong feelings about the GM. I am of two minds about Casserly. I think he is very cap focused and tries to keep the big picture in mind, but it is my understanding that the assistant coaches have a big say on who they get and get rid of. (Why is it that no one on the message board cracks Hoke about PBuch? I am not sure that he is responsible for pushing to get him but not having actual knowledge of stuff doesn't seem to stop people from cracking various coaches and players).

We have had good draft picks, and not so much so and some that are too early to tell. We've got rid of some good players and not so good players. Some of those players have done well in other places, but it is hard to tell how much of that is getting to play on better teams. We've had good luck and bad luck. All GMs have busts and finds, and I am not sure at this point what I think on Casserly. (It would be nice to see comments about this subject that were fairly fact based and not just hyperbole, generalizations, speculation, etc.)

I think if Mr. McNair can get someone who is better, or if giving the GM duties to a great coach is the only way to snag the coach, then Casserly will get better dealed. If not, he stays.

I want to see some wins against some bad teams because 1. it is entertaining; 2. it might show a higher level of talent exists on this team than is demonstrated by the record. Even some of the better Texans players have been looking nongood this year. So maybe some good play and some wins might give us some hope for future years.

You can learn from losses but right now they need to learn by winning. No matter how many holes we have on this team, the majority of these guys will be back next year--so it would be nice to some more consistent play.
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nothing can save their jobs. I know everyone is thinking in the hypothetical, but i happen to know a member of the Teans organization, and he was told in very clear terms if they didnt make the playoffs THIS YEAR then everyone, from the head coach to the coordinators to the scouting department were all fired
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There is no synergy between the team and the coaches on Sundays. The staff is gone. Casserly should be gone as well, but give him kudos for we have the ability to go out and sign some FA's next year due to our cap position. If Cass comes back expect Carr to be here. Cass and Carr are inextricably linked and they may each get one more year (Carr 1+1) after a staff shake up.
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I'm sorry, but Casserly does not escape the axe. Look at the horrible job he has done for 4 years on building an offensive line.

Nope, he's gone too. Don't care how many games you win in our new 6-game season.
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nothing can save their jobs. I know everyone is thinking in the hypothetical, but i happen to know a member of the Teans organization, and he was told in very clear terms if they didnt make the playoffs THIS YEAR then everyone, from the head coach to the coordinators to the scouting department were all fired
Everyone? What about Joe Marciano? Hasn't special teams been the one bright spot in an otherwise dark season? They were the only thing on the field that offered any hope in the Indy game.

A clean sweep would seem a very lazy answer to the coaching problem.

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nothing can save their jobs. I know everyone is thinking in the hypothetical, but i happen to know a member of the Teans organization, and he was told in very clear terms if they didnt make the playoffs THIS YEAR then everyone, from the head coach to the coordinators to the scouting department were all fired
I think most of this is going to be decided by who is brought in to replace Capers/ Casserly. Anyone else coming in is going to want to assess the staff that they have at certain levels in the organization. If Capers is gone then I am sure Fangio and Pendry are as well, but I am not so sure about Marciano. I think it mostly depens on whether or not the new HC has a special somebody in mind for each of the assistants positions. Assembling a staff can be a challenge in the NFL and with all of the staff turnover likely to happen in the league this offseason, I would be surprised if the whole organization is gutted in one single year.
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I don't think anything can save capers and casserly their jobs. Even if they win the next 6 games it will still be very doubtful. By the fourth year, everyone was expecting this team to make the playoffs. Capers as a coach anyways.
I gotta agree with your assessment of the situation Disturbed, except I don't
think failing to be a playoff contender is the key problem: its how the team
played the first month or so of the season when they simply weren't competitive. Fans were discussted. Except for the Cinci game, we really wern't in a game in the 4th quarter until the Clevland win. And the humiliation of 2 lopsided losses on national TV - icing on the cake for a total failure by Capers.
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I honestly hope that we see a regime change, but I'm not going to be surprised if Mr. McNair keeps Coach Capers & Co. around for another season.
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I honestly hope that we see a regime change, but I'm not going to be surprised if Mr. McNair keeps Coach Capers & Co. around for another season.
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Keep Marciano (if possible). Everyone else needs to go. I'm not as determined about this one, but I think we need to get rid of Casserly even if Carr goes with him. We can't give Carr that 8 mill. anyway. Nobody really knows if he's worth it.
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