First Round pick in the draft - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**Ryan** · 11-23-2005

My vote definitely goes to Reggie Bush on this one. The Texans are not ready to give up on david carr just yet.

TEXANRED · 11-23-2005

Who is the top left tackle in the draft?

TheOgre · 11-23-2005

Add Ferguson (LT Virginia) to the list.

TEXANRED · 11-23-2005

Isn't ferguson supposed to be the next coming of TonyB? TonyB when he was heathy.

YoungTexanFan · 11-23-2005

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Originally Posted by TEXANRED

Isn't ferguson supposed to be the next coming of TonyB? TonyB when he was heathy.

no, boseli was nasty and HUGE. He could beat you w/pure strength also. Ferguson is not in that class, he is more like Walter Jones. He excells as pass blocking, and is average elsewehre. He has long arms and very quick feet.

rmartin65 · 11-23-2005

DBrick has to be the pick.

WildBlackBear32 · 11-23-2005

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

no, boseli was nasty and HUGE. He could beat you w/pure strength also. Ferguson is not in that class, he is more like Walter Jones. He excells as pass blocking, and is average elsewehre. He has long arms and very quick feet.

Alexander will STRONGLY disagree with you about Jones being "average" elsewhere.

MorKnolle · 11-23-2005

Winston is better as an overall lineman and fits our system more, not to mention he at least weighs 300 lbs. We have enough small linemen that get pushed around.

D-ReK · 11-23-2005

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

Winston is better as an overall lineman and fits our system more, not to mention he at least weighs 300 lbs. We have enough small linemen that get pushed around.

Yep, he's had at least one major injury, so he meets our main requirement...

YoungTexanFan · 11-23-2005

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

Winston is better as an overall lineman and fits our system more, not to mention he at least weighs 300 lbs. We have enough small linemen that get pushed around.

We also have wade and riley, so saying we need the biggest linemen is not true. We run a zone blocking scheme, where the linemen slide and move to a "zone." The linemen used in these schemes are not always the largest, hence why wade and wand dont fit our team.

YoungTexanFan · 11-23-2005

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Originally Posted by WildBlackBear32

Alexander will STRONGLY disagree with you about Jones being "average" elsewhere.

sorry, I didnt quite make myself clear. I was not saying Jones was average elsewhere, i was saying Fergueson was average elsewhere. Jones is a stud, and has nothing to prove. Fergueson is still a "project" and could turn out to be like Jones. He has physical skills more closely to Jones than anyone else.

YoungTexanFan · 11-23-2005

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Originally Posted by TEXANRED

Isn't ferguson supposed to be the next coming of TonyB? TonyB when he was heathy.

The closest person you will find to Boseli is Eric Winston. He can be a mauler, and a finess blocker. He is very large and athletic. He is also not limited to only LT.

If Winston had not torn his ACL, (?) I forget which one he tore, he would be ranked ahead of Fergueson as the top OT. He was the top LT in the nation, and even in last years draft, would have been the top OT taken.

MorKnolle · 11-23-2005

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

We also have wade and riley, so saying we need the biggest linemen is not true. We run a zone blocking scheme, where the linemen slide and move to a "zone." The linemen used in these schemes are not always the largest, hence why wade and wand dont fit our team.

I realize they don't fit our scheme, at least as OT. Both would be ok at OG and Riley has looked better there, but both are way to slow to protect the outside corner on passing plays. Riley is likely gone at the end of the year and Wade has a huge contract so he will likely stay, so hopefully they will move him inside to OG with Weigert and have Pitts at LT and someone new (Winston, free agent, Ferguson) at RT, and either McKinney, Hodgdon, or someone else at C.

yaboycm · 11-23-2005

If all those players are in the draft hopefully the new gm will have the common sense to trade down a couple spots.

Huge · 11-23-2005

Trade down and take the best available OT. Honestly, I wouldn't care which one. They're all pretty close in ability and each seems to bring something different to the table.

"Other" should be winning this by a landslide.

YoungTexanFan · 11-23-2005

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Originally Posted by Huge

Trade down and take the best available OT. Honestly, I wouldn't care which one. They're all pretty close in ability and each seems to bring something different to the table.

"Other" should be winning this by a landslide.

"Other" is winning this by a landslide.

**Ryan** · 11-23-2005

who is that other that you are speaking of? Give me some details.

YoungTexanFan · 11-23-2005

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Originally Posted by disturbedtexansfan513

who is that other that you are speaking of? Give me some details.

I'll start with the basics:

D'brick
Winston
Hawk
Brooks
Olsen (if he were to declare)
J. Thomas
M. Lewis
Mario
Kiwi
Sean Tay...Derick Jo...reggie who? ---i would rather have anyone listed above.

Tejaspro · 11-26-2005

If the Texans have the opportunity to draft Reggie Bush, I wouldn't hesitate. I hear that he is a once in a decade running back, ala Barrry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, etc. If Bush is not available, I would move down and get the best OT available either in the draft or by trade. I would concentrate on offensive and defensive linemen. After that, maybe TE or LB. Any upgrade in line play, on either side, is vastly needed.

Living in Southern California, I get to see USC play all the time. And Reggie Bush is the real deal.

run-david-run · 11-26-2005

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

Winston is better as an overall lineman and fits our system more, not to mention he at least weighs 300 lbs. We have enough small linemen that get pushed around.

We also have enough big guys to get embaraseed by Freeney. You pick the best LT, not the biggest one, whether he is Winston or D'Brick is the scouting departments job...

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Ryan THIS YEAR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beaumont,Tx Section: Section 135, Row F Posts: 4,898 Rep Power: 7688	First Round pick in the draft My vote definitely goes to Reggie Bush on this one. The Texans are not ready to give up on david carr just yet. Last edited by Ryan; 11-23-2005 at 02:57 PM.

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TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	Add Ferguson (LT Virginia) to the list. __________________ "...the Texans select...Adrian Peterson, RB, University of Oklahoma."

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yaboycm Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 217 Rep Power: 0	If all those players are in the draft hopefully the new gm will have the common sense to trade down a couple spots. __________________ Number 10 Young with the Touchdown

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Tejaspro Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Simi Valley, California Posts: 184 Rep Power: 8	Who to pick first? If the Texans have the opportunity to draft Reggie Bush, I wouldn't hesitate. I hear that he is a once in a decade running back, ala Barrry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, etc. If Bush is not available, I would move down and get the best OT available either in the draft or by trade. I would concentrate on offensive and defensive linemen. After that, maybe TE or LB. Any upgrade in line play, on either side, is vastly needed. Living in Southern California, I get to see USC play all the time. And Reggie Bush is the real deal.

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TEXANRED Texan-American Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 37 Posts: 5,961 Rep Power: 12236	Who is the top left tackle in the draft?

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rmartin65 I'm Score Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 7,493 Rep Power: 19221	DBrick has to be the pick.

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MorKnolle Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,210 Rep Power: 0	Winston is better as an overall lineman and fits our system more, not to mention he at least weighs 300 lbs. We have enough small linemen that get pushed around.

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Huge Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Out yonder way... Age: 41 Posts: 2,386 Rep Power: 15	Trade down and take the best available OT. Honestly, I wouldn't care which one. They're all pretty close in ability and each seems to bring something different to the table. "Other" should be winning this by a landslide.

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