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Old 11-21-2005   #1
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Its been what, 3 years? And cant make it to game one. Do you make your draft plans with him in the picture or not?

I think if you can get someone like Leonard Pope in the 2nd you might want to pull the trigger.

Or would you plan on Bennie coming back, and go with a guard, or some other need?
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Its been what, 3 years? And cant make it to game one. Do you make your draft plans with him in the picture or not?

I think if you can get someone like Leonard Pope in the 2nd you might want to pull the trigger.

Or would you plan on Bennie coming back, and go with a guard, or some other need?
personally i dont think we have the luxury of drafting a TE this year. We need to fill soo many other holes before we worry about TE. Plus, next year Olsen will come out and solve everything for us at TE. JMO.
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Bennie Joppru was a gamble from the very beginning. I was never a big fan of Joppru and I wanted the team to draft Jason Witten. And now with his injuries we cannot count on him ever being healthy and productive. We have to go on and draft a TE or sign one in FA.
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Bennie was great in college, and looked like much more of a sure thing than Witten ever did.

I don't blame the pick, I thought he was good enough to be a 1st rounder he was that solid.
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Bennie was great in college, and looked like much more of a sure thing than Witten ever did.

I don't blame the pick, I thought he was good enough to be a 1st rounder he was that solid.
trade you for Dallas Clark

very impressive game for him this week and he was a 1st rounder
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I think getting a TE should be one of our top off season priorities. We cannot go through another season without a TE that can block AND catch.
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I tend to agree with drafting a TE with our 2nd, if Pope is on the board, and in the 3rd if the top 3 TE's are gone.
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Simply put Bennie Jopru CAN NOT be considered in the Texans offseason plans . The MUST look for a TE in either the draft or via FA ... IF Benni happens to come back next season and be a productive HEALTHY player thats just an added bonus , like a free pick .

For those of you who think Leonard Pope will be around in the early to mid second round .... forget it . He will be an early to mid FIRST rounder IF he comes out . Too many teams are in need of a potential playmaker at the TE position to let a prospect with that much talent slip away .
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There may be 3 TE's with first round talent. Marcedes Lewis (UCLA), Vernon Davis (Maryland), and the afforementioned Leonard Pope (Georgia). 3 TE's went in the first round of the 2002 draft, so it is possible.

And I figure the Texans should approach the offseason forgetting about Joppru, and get a TE in free agency or the draft and anything they do get from Bennie will be gravy.
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Joppru can still come back next season, but we still need a solid TE otherwise. It would great to see Joppru and maybe a good 2nd-3rd round TE on our squad playing together. Bruener is basically used as a fullback in our system.
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What TE do you think they should get in FA? Personally, I think that unless you feel you reakky need a player, you limit your free agent sinings, that along with a lot of high draft picks kill you cap situation... I really dont think there will be any good TE's available in FA, unless you have one in mind?
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Joppru can still come back next season, but we still need a solid TE otherwise. It would great to see Joppru and maybe a good 2nd-3rd round TE on our squad playing together. Bruener is basically used as a fullback in our system.
I have often wondered why we dont just bring in a tackle to play TE? We have thrown 8 passes to our TE's all year, what's the point of having them out there?:brickwall
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We will look at Joppru like we do a street FA. He will be here to compete for a roster spot but we will not factor him into our search for a TE. He is pretty much already paid for so this 2006 season will be make the team sans injury or go home year.
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personally i dont think we have the luxury of drafting a TE this year. We need to fill soo many other holes before we worry about TE. Plus, next year Olsen will come out and solve everything for us at TE. JMO.
I agree with you on this. I think TE is a need for us but not a real important one, although that all depends on our OC and offensive system next year, but I do think we have other more important issues to address first. I personally wouldn't take a TE above the fourth-fifth round this year with all the holes we need to fill, and I doubt we can find one that low in the draft that we should bother drafting. Plus Olsen will come out next year and if we still need one (if Joppru still can't come back, our current TEs can't produce, and we can't find a FA) then look to get Olsen. Isn't Randy McMichael a free agent this year?
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I agree with you on this. I think TE is a need for us but not a real important one, although that all depends on our OC and offensive system next year, but I do think we have other more important issues to address first. I personally wouldn't take a TE above the fourth-fifth round this year with all the holes we need to fill, and I doubt we can find one that low in the draft that we should bother drafting. Plus Olsen will come out next year and if we still need one (if Joppru still can't come back, our current TEs can't produce, and we can't find a FA) then look to get Olsen. Isn't Randy McMichael a free agent this year?
even if he is, there are a few things stopping him from being a Texan:
1. He will be the top paid TE in free agency
2. He will most likely resign
3. Why would he come to a team that has a combined 8 catches between TE's?
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I agree with you on this. I think TE is a need for us but not a real important one, although that all depends on our OC and offensive system next year, but I do think we have other more important issues to address first. I personally wouldn't take a TE above the fourth-fifth round this year with all the holes we need to fill, and I doubt we can find one that low in the draft that we should bother drafting. Plus Olsen will come out next year and if we still need one (if Joppru still can't come back, our current TEs can't produce, and we can't find a FA) then look to get Olsen. Isn't Randy McMichael a free agent this year?
TE is a MASSIVE hole in this team. I don't know how anyone could come to any other conclusion. Also, you can't target a specific player in the draft year after next. That just doesn't work. McMichael beats up girls....I don't want this fool near our team.

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GROVETOWN, Ga. (July 11, 2005) -- Miami Dolphins tight end Randy McMichael is facing charges for the second time in 13 months for allegedly hitting his wife.

McMichael was arrested July 9 in Columbia County after witnesses told police that he had given his wife, Cawanna, a bloody nose.
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TE is a MASSIVE hole in this team. I don't know how anyone could come to any other conclusion. Also, you can't target a specific player in the draft year after next. That just doesn't work. McMichael beats up girls....I don't want this fool near our team.

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this seals his fate for me. I dont want trash like that on my team.
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True, I had forgotten about that issue with him. Still, I think we have so many other priorities to fill than getting a TE that can catch well (assuming Joppru can't play again next year because he is supposed to be good if he can, and I've heard he might be ready to play by the end of this year in case they want to put him out there for a few games). I think TE is about 4th-5th on our list of priorities and at that point in the draft I doubt any TE will be left that will be better than what we have, but if someone is left at our 5th-7th round picks then I have no problem with us taking one.
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True, I had forgotten about that issue with him. Still, I think we have so many other priorities to fill than getting a TE that can catch well (assuming Joppru can't play again next year because he is supposed to be good if he can, and I've heard he might be ready to play by the end of this year in case they want to put him out there for a few games). I think TE is about 4th-5th on our list of priorities and at that point in the draft I doubt any TE will be left that will be better than what we have, but if someone is left at our 5th-7th round picks then I have no problem with us taking one.
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Hey mork I agree with you and know what you are talking about. I doubt they will play him though this year other than maybe the SF game. I would think it would be pretty good to get him a little action.
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