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Old 07-28-2004   #161
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when Domanick broke about 4 tackles in one run(right after an injury) it didnt look to me like he was thinkin," Hmmm, I better just go down cus i dont wanna get hurt again." and if thats what Hollings is thinkin, then he doesnt need to be playin football period.
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when Domanick broke about 4 tackles in one run(right after an injury) it didnt look to me like he was thinkin," Hmmm, I better just go down cus i dont wanna get hurt again." and if thats what Hollings is thinkin, then he doesnt need to be playin football period.
Like you said, DD's was a hand injury that took 4 weeks to heal. Hollings took a year to heal. You dont want to go through rehab again.
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I think Mack will go and try out for them. But why hasn't anyone suggested JWells be traded over there.
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well if youre tip-toeing through the holes worrying about not getting hit, then you are not a full-contact sport contender. if he loves football but doesnt wanna get hurt, he should sign up for a flag-football league. And you know as well as i do, Domanick DOES NOT tip-toe in those holes. He hits them like mike tyson did "The Hurricane"
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well if youre tip-toeing through the holes worrying about not getting hit, then you are not a full-contact sport contender. if he loves football but doesnt wanna get hurt, he should sign up for a flag-football league. And you know as well as i do, Domanick DOES NOT tip-toe in those holes. He hits them lick mike tyson did "The Hurricane"
DD also hasnt torn an ACL. I really need to find some Hollings highlights for you because he went through the hole in college, there was no fear of getting injured. The carry he hurt himself on was to run out the clock. You are Superman until you get hurt. Edge was tenative his first year back from his ACL. You cant blame them for being a little tenative after they just had their career put in jeperody...
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yes, but that keeps coming up. Domanick HAS NOT messed up anything in his legs. Tony is always gonna be hesitant to run up the middle just like Fred Taylor(this ones for __V__) . Since his hamstring injury, he has not been willing to drive for those extra yards after contact anymore. Hollings could never do it anyway( drag people or break tackles) so the injury isnt gonna make him better at it.
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yes, but that keeps coming up. Domanick HAS NOT messed up anything in his legs. Tony is always gonna be hesitant to run up the middle just like Fred Taylor(this ones for __V__) . Since his hamstring injury, he has not been willing to drive for those extra yards after contact anymore. Hollings could never do it anyway( drag people or break tackles) so the injury isnt gonna make him better at it.
You hurt your argument when you compared Taylor to Hollings. Taylor might not drive his legs, according to you, but he had 1500 yards last year....

And Hollings is still faster then DD.
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I didnt compare Hollings to Taylor directly, i compared their INJURIES.(both having to do with their legs) And once again,Hollings maybe be faster than Domanick, but Domanick IS NOT SLOW, to any extent.
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AND Taylor was always able to break tackles, i was refering to when he was going down, saying he would just drop, instead of even trying to drive for EXTRA yards. i didnt say that Taylor never broke a tackle, because he did. thats how he got 1500yards. But Tony doesnt have the power to go with the outstanding speed, and CANNOT break a tackle.
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I didnt compare Hollings to Taylor directly, i compared their INJURIES.(both having to do with their legs)
And Taylor with a leg injury rushed for 1500
Lewis, who had an ACL tear 3 years ago, rushed for 2000 yards last year
Edge tore his ACL 3 years ago, too, and had 1200 yards, in 13 games, with a 4.1 yard per carry average....
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yes, but ALL OF THOSE BACKS HAVE ENOUGH STRENGTH TO BREAK TACKLES.
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how do YOU know he can't break tackles? you seen him after he gets his confidence back and gets used to the speed of the game? have you seen him in practice?

I am amazed that you are saying he can't do this or that when all you have seen of him is limited duty of last season

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where you there to see what kind of conditioning/strength program he was on last season and this offseason?

BTW I haven't seen any of it either but I do have faith that our front office knows what it takes to get a player healthy and NFL ready

Hollings came out as a junior..Yes he needs work still..
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But Tony doesnt have the power to go with the outstanding speed, and CANNOT break a tackle.
How can you say that when you have only seen him take 20 carries?

We can argue this all day long but I really dont want to do that, we just have to wait and see....

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definatly agreed. but nice argument and no hard feelings. and a good point about not having seen him, but ill tell ya how hes looking when i see him in practice. I got tix to 3 practices in early August. I really wanna see Babin, Robinson, & Lord.
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but yea ill give yall an UNBIASED report if you want.
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Thats what my dad says ALL the time.
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Beastly Man,

You may end up being right about your prediction ... who knows, right?

But the flaw in your argument is that you're using actual performance alone as your measure of talent, instead of upside potential. An athletic, even if raw, specimen will always raise eyebrows in whatever league...from Hollings to Dwight Howard. Why?

Because it's better to have a specimen that has the full spectrum of qualities, both the unteachable and the teachable...than a lesser raw specimen with the teachable.

...assuming the coach is confident in his coaching abilities...
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In my opinion it isn't essential to have the perfect physical qualities. They are important because of the physcial nature of the game, but it all comes down to heart, work ethic, and what we all want- making plays. So I don't care who they put out there as long as the guy can represent the Texans both on the field and off the field with dignity and will make the plays when it needs to be done.
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