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Old 07-28-2004   #141
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IGHT, lets do it.
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Domanick Davis, very first GAME against a very good Dolphins defense(in crunch time)
34 yards on 4 rushes. Also broke off a 17-yard run breaking tackles from Zach Thomas, & JR. seau
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I believe Hollings can be the runner of the future because he has qualities that DD doesnt, speed the main one. Davis isnt a homerun threat, Hollings is. I am not riding off Davis, but Olandis Gary rushed for 1000 yards too...
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Domanick Davis, very first GAME against a very good Dolphins defense(in crunch time)
34 yards on 4 rushes. Also broke off a 17-yard run breaking tackles from Zach Thomas, & JR. seau
but the Dolphins had tackling problems all year long....
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what traits exactly does Hollings have better than Domanick besides speed? Not strength, not cutback ability, not agility and definatly not the ability to break tackles as Domanick can.
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of course the Dolphins didn't take the Texans seriously.. I remember Jabar Gaffney being quoted in the paper that the Dolphins told him "Thanks for the practice" before the game started..


seriously, this is a good problem for Capers to have

another interesting thing would be Norris or Baxtor?
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what traits exactly does Hollings have better than Domanick besides speed? Not strength, not cutback ability, not agility and definatly not the ability to break tackles as Doanick can.
Well i cant deny strength, but if you see college highlights of Mr. Hollings, he has a great cutback and had great agility....
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NORRIS vs. BAXTER? NORRIS. next.
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im sure he has SOME ability, but he cannot cut like Domanick, and he also doesnt have the amazing vision Domanick has.
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im sure he has SOME ability, but he cannot cut like Domanick, and he also doesnt have the amazing vision Domanick has.
We havent seen enough of Hollings to grade his vision. And in college I dont think he needed vision because he made the first guy miss with a great juke and then gallop to the endzone...
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But, we have seen what domanick can do and we have seen that ability from tony
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If I remember right Hollings averaged really high when he played for Georga Tech. I think it was somewhere between 5-6 yards. And thats not bad for anybody.
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once again, that was in college(not the pros), and before he torn his knee up.
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But it shows his potential.
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Where you at Fiddy? Is this case closed?
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But, we have seen what domanick can do and we have seen that ability from tony
I am going to guess you meant havent.

We are grading Hollings on potential and think he will take the job in by the start of next year because of he has more potential then DD. Vinny makes a great comparisions when he compares DD to Duce Staley and Hollings to Bennett. Staley can get the job done, but Bennett gives the threat that he can take it to the house anytime he touches the ball. Hollings offers more for the offense. He spreads them out more because of his speed, he provides a homerun threat that all great offenses have. DD doesnt provide that threat....
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Since I'm pretty sure most people here realize that Hollings isn't going to Miami and this thread has morphed into something altogether different, I thought I'd share my thoughts about Hollings & Davis.

The things that jumped out at me watching Tony Hollings at training camp last year were 1) he has special speed, and 2) he was small for a NFL RB. I've taken a lot of flak from infantrycak & others on Tony's size (and please don't list the weights of all the NFL RBs again), but hey that was my perception. I think it was backed up by his performance has Hollings seemingly was knocked around by defenders like a pinball hitting bumpers. Tony's propensity in dropping the ball after a big hit was another indicator of his lack of strength.

But, there was never any question about Hollings' speed, as he showed the ability to turn the corner both in the preseason and the Chief game. Now, Tony is coming off his 1st NFL off season training program. I feel that the time between a player's 1st & 2nd year is where he will make the biggest jump in physical development. I'm expecting a bigger, stronger Hollings this year with the same type of speed that can put fear into an opposing defense. If so, Tony can be a real weapon for the Texans this year.

I saw Domanick Davis in the 1st Texan night practice last year and my impression was probably the same as what the Texans thought they were getting. Quick to the hole, good hands out of the backfield, caught punts with his hands not his body. Davis was also on the small side, but about the size you'd expect in a 3rd down back/return man. Then Domanick injured his hand, and I completely forgot about him. I was actually a little surprised the Texans didn't put him on IR at the beginning of the season and only go with 3 RBs. I'm glad they didn't.

I guess DD caught my attention 1st in the "Leap of Faith" drive, were he almost single handedly drove the Texans into position for the winning TD. Then he looked good again in the Titan road game, then the Jet game, then the Colt game, then the...until I realized, "Hey, we've got something pretty good here in this Davis guy". Domanick's success kind of sneaks up on you, because he's not special in any obvious way. His moves, his ability to slip tackles, his vision, how he uses his blockers, everything about him is subtle. I mean his college coach considered moving Davis to defense at one point at LSU, even Saban didn't know what he had. But DD has something, look at his stats compared to the other Texan RBs last season.

Davis - 238 rushes, 1031 yards, 4.3 ypc
Other Texan RB's - 136 rushes, 369 yards, 2.7 ypc

I'm sorry, but a 4.3 ypc behind a decent, not great, o-line means something. A difference of 1.6 yards per carry between DD & the other backs means something. Looking at Davis and saying, "I don't see anything special", doesn't mean that the guy isn't special. Will Domanick become a HOF RB? It doesn't matter. What matters is if the combination of Davis & Hollings can help the Texans win games. I think they can.
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You just nade my point, Hollings already had durability problems as Bennett. Domanick has broken his hand but that doesnt unltimatley effect the way you run, cuz i have seen running backs with broken hands still playing. but not with broken foot(bennett) or torn acl. Domanick IS NOT SLOW, just not as fast as Tony. He could still take it to the house any time. And as for Tony. He cant break a tackle, and the only person who could take it to the house without being touched was Barry, and Tony is not Barry.

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Hollings didn't do much last season by design from the coaching staff. I recall seeing flashes of good things from Hollings.. If you count of the jags game where Hollings had 19 yards on 18 carries.. Horrible performance by our offense.. they just teed off on us. they knew Hollings would be starting and Ragone making his first start.. and down in Jacksonville.. Yeah I could make excuses but Del rio was licking his chops for this one.. Taylor ran for a buck sixty.. they came to play
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You just nade my point, Hollings already had durability problems as Bennett. Domanick has broken his hand but that doesnt unltimatley effect the way you run, cuz i have seen running backs with broken hands still playing. but not with brocken foot(bennett) or torn acl. Domanick IS NOT SLOW, just not as fast as Tony. He could still take it to the house any time. And as for Tony. He cant break a tackle, and the only person who could take it to the house without being touched was Barry, and Tony is not Barry.
DD has durability problems too. He has never played a full season, college or NFL. Breaking a tackle is also mental when coming off an injury....

We cant give you stats to prove potential, we just have to wait and see...
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