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jacquescas · 08-04-2004

Did the trade for Henson have any provisions with playing time? Now that Carter is gone he has moved up to second on the depth chart. Vinny still has to make it through the preseason, and with his age an injury isn't unheard of.

If Henson has to start 10 or 11 games will that bump something in that trade to move that 3rd round pick to a second or first rounder?

I dont remember if there were any restrictions on the deal. anyone remember? i could very well be wrong.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 08-04-2004

I about 98% certain that the trade did not include any playing time provisions.

done88 · 08-04-2004

I think I rember their being an additional late round pick associated with playing time that Henson did not figure to get.

Fiddy · 08-04-2004

It was a 3rd round pick and that is it. No escalator clauses in the trade, but Henson does have some years of his contract voided if he plays a certain amount of snaps....

done88 · 08-04-2004

I was wrong this if from espn

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Originally Posted by espn

The Houston Texans have traded the rights to quarterback Drew Henson to the Dallas Cowboys for a third-round draft choice in the 2005 NFL draft, ESPN.com has learned.

Henson and the Cowboys agreed on an eight-year contract that will void to four years with modest playing time. In all eight years of the deal, the former New York Yankees third baseman will make a guaranteed minimum salary. In 2004, Henson's salary will be $238,000.

Henson, however, is guaranteed at least $3.5 million over the next four years through a roster bonus that will trigger after any season in which he meets the predetermined playing time level. The Dallas Morning News reports that Henson will receive that bonus and void the last four years of the deal if he plays just 15 percent of the team's snaps in 2004. Henson's deal also has a $1 million escalator clause. The paper reports that clause will be triggered if Henson plays 70 percent of the team's snaps in any of his first three seasons.

There are no conditions that will elevate the draft pick to a higher round based on Henson's performance.

Joe Texan · 08-04-2004

And what part of this is about my Texans

Mods Please remove this crap from this section

**ArlingtonTexan** · 08-04-2004

The player was traded from the Texans and the question is inquiring whether the Texans could recieve some extra picks. While close to the borderline, I will leave it.

If another Mod disagrees, he is welcome to move the thread.

**Vinny** · 08-04-2004

Don't you have a flight to Canton to catch?

nunusguy · 08-04-2004

Vinney (not our Vinney, the Cowboy's Vinney), is defiinitely getting pretty long in the tooth. Wonder if they would be interested in one of our other backups to
Carr as their guy for the next 1-2 seasons until Henson is up to speed ? I was thinking along the lines of T.Banks. This is his last year under contract with us I believe - after that, he's free to pick and choose his next team. Ragone is our long-term #2 guy. Could we get another mid-round draft pick for Banks as we did with Henson, or maybe some important depth for another long NFL season ?

Porky · 08-04-2004

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Originally Posted by Joe Texan

And what part of this is about my Texans

Mods Please remove this **** from this section

Relax man. Cowboys mania is not transmitable through message boards.

**texasguy346** · 08-04-2004

The Cowboys cut Banks much the same way they cut Carter a few years ago. Only without the positive drug test. I doubt the Texans make any moves of that sort, and the Cowboys seem pretty content with their stable of QBs as it is now.

DFAN · 08-04-2004

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Originally Posted by Joe Texan

And what part of this is about my Texans

Mods Please remove this **** from this section

Some things never change.

Cowboys getting busted and Joe crying about Cowboy conversation on HIS MB.

At least you didn't start this one like you did on the old MB.

08-04-2004

Things really don't change at all. Cowboys fans get their bad news and for some reason need to come on here hoping that someone would care for them. LOL

jacquescas · 08-05-2004

well with one less quarterback on the Dallas roster, they are 1 injury away from playing unproven talent, and with a 40 year old previously injured Vinnie T, at the 1 spot its not unheard of.

Our 3rd round pick could easily move from the last 10 picks in the 3rd round to the first third of the 3rd round. a swing of 25 picks can make a huge difference.

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jacquescas Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 1,323 Rep Power: 11	Cowboys trade? Did the trade for Henson have any provisions with playing time? Now that Carter is gone he has moved up to second on the depth chart. Vinny still has to make it through the preseason, and with his age an injury isn't unheard of. If Henson has to start 10 or 11 games will that bump something in that trade to move that 3rd round pick to a second or first rounder? I dont remember if there were any restrictions on the deal. anyone remember? i could very well be wrong.

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done88 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Clear Lake Age: 36 Posts: 274 Rep Power: 10	I think I rember their being an additional late round pick associated with playing time that Henson did not figure to get. __________________ Donnie I've adopted Eric Moulds

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Fiddy Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Age: 25 Posts: 4,314 Rep Power: 17	It was a 3rd round pick and that is it. No escalator clauses in the trade, but Henson does have some years of his contract voided if he plays a certain amount of snaps.... __________________ 'Anyone ready to go outside so I can make you look bad?' - Matt Schaub talking to the DBs

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08-04-2004	#2
ArlingtonTexan Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 5,284 Rep Power: 20331	I about 98% certain that the trade did not include any playing time provisions.

08-04-2004	#8
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Don't you have a flight to Canton to catch?

08-04-2004	#9
nunusguy Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 8,991 Rep Power: 184	Vinney (not our Vinney, the Cowboy's Vinney), is defiinitely getting pretty long in the tooth. Wonder if they would be interested in one of our other backups to Carr as their guy for the next 1-2 seasons until Henson is up to speed ? I was thinking along the lines of T.Banks. This is his last year under contract with us I believe - after that, he's free to pick and choose his next team. Ragone is our long-term #2 guy. Could we get another mid-round draft pick for Banks as we did with Henson, or maybe some important depth for another long NFL season ?

08-04-2004	#11
texasguy346 Mod Squad Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deer Park, TX Age: 30 Posts: 7,071 Rep Power: 2882	The Cowboys cut Banks much the same way they cut Carter a few years ago. Only without the positive drug test. I doubt the Texans make any moves of that sort, and the Cowboys seem pretty content with their stable of QBs as it is now.

08-04-2004	#13
SESupergenius Guest Posts: n/a	Things really don't change at all. Cowboys fans get their bad news and for some reason need to come on here hoping that someone would care for them. LOL

08-05-2004	#14
jacquescas Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 1,323 Rep Power: 11	well with one less quarterback on the Dallas roster, they are 1 injury away from playing unproven talent, and with a 40 year old previously injured Vinnie T, at the 1 spot its not unheard of. Our 3rd round pick could easily move from the last 10 picks in the 3rd round to the first third of the 3rd round. a swing of 25 picks can make a huge difference.

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