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F-minus67 · 11-17-2005

I was just wondering who on the offensive line will be here at this time next year?

Locks to stay:

Chester Pitts
Todd Wade
Drew Hodgdon
Milford Brown
Todd Washington

On the bubble:

Steve McKinney
Zach Wiegert
Seth Wand

Already gone:

Victor Riley
Fred Weary

Dime · 11-17-2005

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Originally Posted by F-minus67

I was just wondering who on the offensive line will be here at this time next year?

Locks to stay:

Chester Pitts
Todd Wade
Drew Hodgdon
Milford Brown
Todd Washington

On the bubble:

Steve McKinney
Zach Wiegert
Seth Wand

Already gone:

Victor Riley
Fred Weary

Believe it or not, I can see all those locks stay, with the addition of Wiegert staying too. Victor , Fred, Seth will be bubble boys and Steve will be around with less money next year or he will be gone. Just kinda what i think.

keyfro · 11-18-2005

funny thing is i think a lot will depend on what offensive lineman are available in FA and who the Gm believes we can get in the draft

**TEXANS84** · 11-18-2005

Why would you get rid of Zach Weigert? So far he's been our best offensive lineman when he's been playing.

El Tejano · 11-18-2005

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Originally Posted by TEXANS84

Why would you get rid of Zach Weigert? So far he's been our best offensive lineman when he's been playing.

Yeah, when he is playing.

texan279 · 11-18-2005

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Originally Posted by keyfro

funny thing is i think a lot will depend on what offensive lineman are available in FA and who the Gm believes we can get in the draft

I heard this morning on Cold Pizza and heard a few weeks ago that Jonathon Ogden is not happy with the Raven's bad performance this season and their front office cutting his brother, and he will probably either retire or leave the Ravens after this season.

TheOgre · 11-18-2005

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Originally Posted by texan279

I heard this morning on Cold Pizza and heard a few weeks ago that Jonathon Ogden is not happy with the Raven's bad performance this season and their front office cutting his brother, and he will probably either retire or leave the Ravens after this season.

So he is complaining about the Raven's bad performance? Why in the world would he go to the Texans then? That doesn't make sense.

texan279 · 11-18-2005

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Originally Posted by TheOgre

So he is complaining about the Raven's bad performance? Why in the world would he go to the Texans then? That doesn't make sense.

From what I get, he is more upset about them cutting his brother, the Raven's bad season is just the icing on the cake, from what I read and hear anyway.

F-minus67 · 11-18-2005

What does Ogden have to prove with a new team? He is a multiple time pro bowler, he has a ring and he close to 40.

Hervoyel · 11-18-2005

I think you're "Locks to stay" list is a little too big. I would not say that Milford Brown or Todd Washington are locks at this point. So much of what happens depends on whether or not the team has a coaching purge at the end of the year. If a new coach comes in then I'd say the locks are probably only Chester Pitts (basically our best lineman), Drew Hodgdon because he's a second year guy and we obviously have needs at center, and finally Todd Wade who we'll be stuck with due to the money. Clearly we also hope we can get better performance out of him.

That's about it for true "locks". Obviously we're going to keep a bunch of these guys because you can't replace everyone in one offseason even if you need to. I wouldn't call Todd Washington or Milford Brown "Already Gone" though. I'd say almost all of our linemen go into camp on the bubble and trying out for their new coaches.

I'm sure somebody we've all written off will manage to make this team and somebody that we all think should stick will be looking for work.

El Tejano · 11-18-2005

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Originally Posted by F-minus67

What does Ogden have to prove with a new team? He is a multiple time pro bowler, he has a ring and he close to 40.

And besides Freeney eats his lunch.

**utahmark** · 11-18-2005

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel

I think you're "Locks to stay" list is a little too big. I would not say that Milford Brown or Todd Washington are locks at this point. So much of what happens depends on whether or not the team has a coaching purge at the end of the year. If a new coach comes in then I'd say the locks are probably only Chester Pitts (basically our best lineman), Drew Hodgdon because he's a second year guy and we obviously have needs at center, and finally Todd Wade who we'll be stuck with due to the money. Clearly we also hope we can get better performance out of him.

That's about it for true "locks". Obviously we're going to keep a bunch of these guys because you can't replace everyone in one offseason even if you need to. I wouldn't call Todd Washington or Milford Brown "Already Gone" though. I'd say almost all of our linemen go into camp on the bubble and trying out for their new coaches.

I'm sure somebody we've all written off will manage to make this team and somebody that we all think should stick will be looking for work.

from hpf.com salary page. it looks like wade would cost 6 million and change to let go. but its gonna cost us 5 million to keep him. so it would only cost us a little over 1mil more to let him go. might not be a bad time to "bite the bullet" if you dont think hes our rt tackle for the next 3 or 4 years.

its not like were gonna win a sb next year anyway.

keyfro · 11-18-2005

you don't know that...a new coach and a new attitude and anything is possible...remember everyone a year ago thought the chargers would be picking high in the draft for mike williams and they got the playoffs

Texas_Thrill · 11-18-2005

See now that's the problem with the Texans........

how in the world did steve mc"take my money and dont block anyone"kinney get on the bubble? :brickwall

HJam72 · 11-20-2005

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Originally Posted by markbeth

from hpf.com salary page. it looks like wade would cost 6 million and change to let go. but its gonna cost us 5 million to keep him. so it would only cost us a little over 1mil more to let him go. might not be a bad time to "bite the bullet" if you dont think hes our rt tackle for the next 3 or 4 years.

its not like were gonna win a sb next year anyway.

Huh? Why would you want to pay more to not have somebody? Are our guys THAT bad?

phan1 · 11-20-2005

Ummm... You know they can't go unless we find better people to replace them right? Just a thought...

bckey · 11-20-2005

Well if the Texans do the right thing and draft a LT in the 1st round then Wade would be expendable. You could put Pitts or the new guy over there. McKinney and Wiegert will probably be our starters at the guard positions next year. Hopefully we will draft a young guard to bring along and eventually fill one of those spots. We may be able to land a center in free agency. DHog did pretty good for a rookie but we need some insurance. REALLY fixing the OL in the draft and free agency next year will do more than trying to fix a hole here and there on the rest of the team except for the TE position. We need a good TE that can block and catch. That will go a long way in helping our OL and our offense in general.

11-17-2005	#1
F-minus67 Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Middletown,CT Age: 26 Posts: 1,070 Rep Power: 11	Who is staying? I was just wondering who on the offensive line will be here at this time next year? Locks to stay: Chester Pitts Todd Wade Drew Hodgdon Milford Brown Todd Washington On the bubble: Steve McKinney Zach Wiegert Seth Wand Already gone: Victor Riley Fred Weary __________________ "Democracy is not for the people." - Judge Dredd

11-18-2005	#3
keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	funny thing is i think a lot will depend on what offensive lineman are available in FA and who the Gm believes we can get in the draft __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

11-18-2005	#9
F-minus67 Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Middletown,CT Age: 26 Posts: 1,070 Rep Power: 11	What does Ogden have to prove with a new team? He is a multiple time pro bowler, he has a ring and he close to 40. __________________ "Democracy is not for the people." - Judge Dredd

11-18-2005	#10
Hervoyel The Right Track Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 12,919 Rep Power: 61005	I think you're "Locks to stay" list is a little too big. I would not say that Milford Brown or Todd Washington are locks at this point. So much of what happens depends on whether or not the team has a coaching purge at the end of the year. If a new coach comes in then I'd say the locks are probably only Chester Pitts (basically our best lineman), Drew Hodgdon because he's a second year guy and we obviously have needs at center, and finally Todd Wade who we'll be stuck with due to the money. Clearly we also hope we can get better performance out of him. That's about it for true "locks". Obviously we're going to keep a bunch of these guys because you can't replace everyone in one offseason even if you need to. I wouldn't call Todd Washington or Milford Brown "Already Gone" though. I'd say almost all of our linemen go into camp on the bubble and trying out for their new coaches. I'm sure somebody we've all written off will manage to make this team and somebody that we all think should stick will be looking for work. __________________ A wise man once said "...well at this point it's all been hashed out and you either see it or don't. Hoping for a win next week" - HTown2ATX

11-18-2005	#13
keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	you don't know that...a new coach and a new attitude and anything is possible...remember everyone a year ago thought the chargers would be picking high in the draft for mike williams and they got the playoffs __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

11-18-2005	#4
TEXANS84 Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Woodlands, TX Age: 35 Posts: 7,450 Rep Power: 3116	Why would you get rid of Zach Weigert? So far he's been our best offensive lineman when he's been playing.

11-18-2005	#14
Texas_Thrill Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: H-Town stomping once again! Age: 33 Posts: 1,473 Rep Power: 11	See now that's the problem with the Texans........ how in the world did steve mc"take my money and dont block anyone"kinney get on the bubble? :brickwall __________________ Texans messageboard.....where everyone is a damn draft expert.

11-20-2005	#16
phan1 All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 650 Rep Power: 9	Ummm... You know they can't go unless we find better people to replace them right? Just a thought...

11-20-2005	#17
bckey Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 2,133 Rep Power: 8726	Well if the Texans do the right thing and draft a LT in the 1st round then Wade would be expendable. You could put Pitts or the new guy over there. McKinney and Wiegert will probably be our starters at the guard positions next year. Hopefully we will draft a young guard to bring along and eventually fill one of those spots. We may be able to land a center in free agency. DHog did pretty good for a rookie but we need some insurance. REALLY fixing the OL in the draft and free agency next year will do more than trying to fix a hole here and there on the rest of the team except for the TE position. We need a good TE that can block and catch. That will go a long way in helping our OL and our offense in general.

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