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Old 11-15-2005   #41
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I'm just amazed at how ugly a losing season can make people.

By some of the logic in this thread, the team needs to ban wives, children, and relatives to games, too. Afterall, they could be a big distraction to the players when it really matters!

The fact of the matter is that Coach Capers is a losing coach, as clearly evident by his record.

FACT: Capers has had ONE winning season his entire head coaching career.

FACT: Capers has had SEVEN losing seasons his entire head coaching career.

Pathetic stories and crazy speculation like this are par for the course for a losing franchise. This attitude is slowing choking the team and infecting the fans like a cancer. And it all starts with the top.
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By some of the logic in this thread, the team needs to ban wives, children, and relatives to games, too. Afterall, they could be a big distraction to the players when it really matters!
Yes this just reeks of desperation on the part of the coaching staff. They are reaching at straws to find a solution.
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Who gets the lowest grade Dom or CC ?
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You have to give Dom credit for taking on 2 expantion teams. That is a lot harder then taking a job with an established team(Switzer).
Alright, I'll give him credit.

But, in return, do you ever wonder why established NFL teams never handed the HC reigns over to him?

He's a fine man and a great defensive coordinator. But these things do not necessarily equal a good head coach.
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People keep talking about Carr's first few games last year. He definitely passed well but it was against the Who's Who of Worst Pass Defenses. Go back and look.
I am aware of the opponents on the 1st half of the schedule last year, but it isn't just a stats thing--although if you want a more complete picture on your stats you might include that the Texans put up more yards than the teams average passing yards given up on 6 of the 1st 9 games. In any event, Carr's intangibles looked better. He was acting confident and making things happen. He was throwing accurately into tight coverage including double coverage--and the WR's were catching the ball. He looked much more comfortable. Do you think he is playing better this year?
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I have been reading this thread and as hard as it has been for me NOT to respond, the FEMALE instinct took over and got the best of me! I just have ONE little bitty thing to say.

I bet Roger Carr is Davids biggest critic! He probably makes all you couch coaches look pretty lame!! Boys grow up having their Dad's yell at them for something or another when it comes to sports. Davids a grown boy now and plays in the big leagues, but, I bet it doesn't stop Roger Carr from giving him a piece of his mind when he messes up.

I ask my grandson not to long ago if it bothered him for his Dad to "sideline" coach him, because it about drove me nuts. He told me NO, that it made him work harder. Repect is a very powerful word and speaks volumns!! JMO!!
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if i made enough playing a sport for my DADDY to retire and he was allowed at the practices, he wouldnt miss a single one. these players are grown, it's not like roger's throwing a fit on the sideline screaming that they put his kid in the game. carr's being coddled because he's there? i see it ... as soon as anyone gets in his face he just shouts out "my dad can beat up your dad" and he gets his way. this is silly. i guess i can understand it though because everyone but the media has been barred from the sidelines ... and we know the media isnt a distraction .
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I bet Roger Carr is Davids biggest critic! He probably makes all you couch coaches look pretty lame!! Boys grow up having their Dad's yell at them for something or another when it comes to sports. Davids a grown boy now and plays in the big leagues, but, I bet it doesn't stop Roger Carr from giving him a piece of his mind when he messes up.
As a former coach, collegiate, this is excatly why we would not have the parents around when it deals with the field of play.
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As a former coach, collegiate, this is excatly why we would not have the parents around when it deals with the field of play.
I guarantee you Roger wasn't yelling criticism at Carr during practice, but I'm sure the two of them talked about his play and the play of the team after practices.
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I bet there wouldn't be an issue if Carr's Dad was like Tim McGraw on Friday Night Lights.

We should hire him to be a coach, What do ya think?
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This wouldn't be an issue if we were winning...
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personally I think they should kick Capers and co out of practice and see what the offense can come up with. You can only hold a tiger by the tail so long before it bites you and runs away.
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personally I think they should kick Capers and co out of practice and see what the offense can come up with.
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Better idea....Just let D.Carr draw up plays in the dirt like sandlot
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I have been reading this thread and as hard as it has been for me NOT to respond, the FEMALE instinct took over and got the best of me! I just have ONE little bitty thing to say.

I bet Roger Carr is Davids biggest critic! He probably makes all you couch coaches look pretty lame!! Boys grow up having their Dad's yell at them for something or another when it comes to sports. Davids a grown boy now and plays in the big leagues, but, I bet it doesn't stop Roger Carr from giving him a piece of his mind when he messes up.

I ask my grandson not to long ago if it bothered him for his Dad to "sideline" coach him, because it about drove me nuts. He told me NO, that it made him work harder. Repect is a very powerful word and speaks volumns!! JMO!!
No problem with Dad being one of his biggest critics but going to work with your child, when the child happens to be a 26 year old adult, is a bit much - close family or not. I come from an extremely tight family but I can't grip the thought of my Dad car pooling with me to work and breaking down the Power Point presentation I just gave to the CEO. What would my co-workers think?

This is probably more about appearances and the message it sends to teammates than anything else. It's time for DC - the leader in work -to go to work without Daddy being there to hold his hand - and Daddy should have recognized this after his first training camp.
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No problem with Dad being one of his biggest critics but going to work with your child, when the child happens to be a 26 year old adult, is a bit much - close family or not. I come from an extremely tight family but I can't grip the thought of my Dad car pooling with me to work and breaking down the Power Point presentation I just gave to the CEO. What would my co-workers think?

This is probably more about appearances and the message it sends to teammates than anything else. It's time for DC - the leader in work -to go to work without Daddy being there to hold his hand - and Daddy should have recognized this after his first training camp.
Good take on the situation A.J
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No problem with Dad being one of his biggest critics but going to work with your child, when the child happens to be a 26 year old adult, is a bit much - close family or not. I come from an extremely tight family but I can't grip the thought of my Dad car pooling with me to work and breaking down the Power Point presentation I just gave to the CEO. What would my co-workers think?

This is probably more about appearances and the message it sends to teammates than anything else. It's time for DC - the leader in work -to go to work without Daddy being there to hold his hand - and Daddy should have recognized this after his first training camp.
Just a quick note again, I'm sure Carr's dad does not hang out at the stadium and in their meetings and all that all day long and that he just comes out for 2+ hours of practice each day to watch how the team is doing and maybe offer some criticism/thoughts to David once they are back home.
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perhaps you failed to read the article with open eyes and not 'golden boy Carr colored lenses' yourself NFLforher.





like I said before, when the rules apply equally to ALL the Texans players INCLUDING GOLDEN BOY CARR then they might, perhaps, maybe, start actually playing like a TEAM.

I will admit I did find this little snippet quite funny

knowing what I know about how the Texans handle 'media relations' I think it is quite hilarious that Justice thinks that John 'the General' McLame prints or says ANYTHING that isn't cleared by the Texans front office directly FIRST is almost too funny.

Yeah, like this is really gonna help the "team" or anyone else. You failed to read my post, where I did not ask for special dispensation for Carr. Comprehension is the key.

Capers needs to do more than close practices.
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No problem with Dad being one of his biggest critics but going to work with your child, when the child happens to be a 26 year old adult, is a bit much - close family or not. I come from an extremely tight family but I can't grip the thought of my Dad car pooling with me to work and breaking down the Power Point presentation I just gave to the CEO. What would my co-workers think?

This is probably more about appearances and the message it sends to teammates than anything else. It's time for DC - the leader in work -to go to work without Daddy being there to hold his hand - and Daddy should have recognized this after his first training camp.
Did your dad ever go to your little leage Power point presentations? Is your office outside in the grass with bleachers.

Come on now, this is silly.
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Yes this just reeks of desperation on the part of the coaching staff. They are reaching at straws to find a solution.

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I am aware of the opponents on the 1st half of the schedule last year, but it isn't just a stats thing--although if you want a more complete picture on your stats you might include that the Texans put up more yards than the teams average passing yards given up on 6 of the 1st 9 games. In any event, Carr's intangibles looked better. He was acting confident and making things happen. He was throwing accurately into tight coverage including double coverage--and the WR's were catching the ball. He looked much more comfortable. Do you think he is playing better this year?
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I'll give Carr credit for taking advantage of the situation. He was definitely playing better than at any other point in his pro career, but lets keep it in perspective.
I think Carr was playing fairly well, but I never felt like he was "over the hump". That is what I was getting at. He still holds onto the ball too long and takes unnecessary sacks. He doesn't go through his progressions well. Also, Carr hasn't done very well in close games in the 4th quarter.
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