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YoungTexanFan · 11-13-2005

1. D’Brick- LT Virginia
2. Elvis Dumervile-DE Louisville
3. Orin Harris-DT The U
3. Dwayne Slay-FS Texas Tech
4. Justin London-ILB/UCLA
5. Taitusi Lutui-OG USC
6. Skyler Green-WR LSU
7. Kwakou Robinson DT Virginia

swtbound07 · 11-14-2005

and we will do what about tight end exactly? give me d brick and domonique byrd, and i'll be a happy texan

YoungTexanFan · 11-14-2005

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Originally Posted by swtbound07

and we will do what about tight end exactly? give me d brick and domonique byrd, and i'll be a happy texan

There are not many TE's that are good enough quality to draft after the top two. You will end up w/a rivers kind of guy.

MorKnolle · 11-14-2005

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

1. D’Brick- LT Virginia
2. Elvis Dumervile-DE Louisville
3. Orin Harris-DT The U
3. Dwayne Slay-FS Texas Tech
4. Justin London-ILB/UCLA
5. Taitusi Lutui-OG USC
6. Skyler Green-WR LSU
7. Kwakou Robinson DT Virginia

Why would we draft another DT when we already have four of them? I would still rather see Winston than Ferguson, but we'll have to wait until the combine and workouts to see who will be better. Not sure if your fifth and sixth round picks will be around that late.

YoungTexanFan · 11-14-2005

because seth payne is underachieving and gary walker is at the end of a huge contract. in the latter rounds, depth like this is good.

**beerlover** · 11-14-2005

The foundation of the Texans was built on too many question marks to attain competitivness early on. Both lines are old & lack talent, Casserly should have been building this critical area of need and sacrificing the early years to build solid, young & talented lines. we need to be adding picks not subtracting valuable picks. it started with Hollings followed by the Babin trades then exasperated by trading both 2nd & 3rd round draft picks in 05.

I have since awknowledged the need to draft the best defensive tackle in the draft last year (Travis Johnson) even if I thought it was Marcus Spears, the point is Casserly/Cappers finally recognized one of their true needs. if they had not made the PB trade they could have then addressed the LT position with Khalif Barnes (playing well with Jacksonville @ LT) and still taken a young CB like Domonique Foxworth (looks very good with Denver).

So taking Orin Harris would make alot of sense to me, especially if the Texans change schemes and go to a 4-3 defense. however I don't feel he grades out as a 3rd pick, he is a solid 2nd rd prospect that could rise into the bottom of the 1st.

MorKnolle · 11-14-2005

You have us picking him in the third round though, which I doubt he will last that long anyways, and it makes even less sense to draft him if we switch to a 4-3. Seth Payne and Gary Walker have been two of the hardest workers and best performers on our defense this year. We have much bigger needs to fill than DT, we have Payne, Walker, Travis Johnson, and Robaire Smith who are all DTs (plus Ioane and Deloach), and if we switch to a 4-3 next year only two of them will play at a time, although like some other picks, that would depend on our coaching staff and system. I still think we need to address OL (1st and 3rd or 4th rounds), CB (2nd round if there is a good, athletic one available that will actually cover someone), DE/OLB (2nd-4th round, get someone who is athletic and big and can put pressure on a QB, their position will depend on whether we are running a 4-3 or 3-4), SS (Brown should be moved to FS, then pick up a SS in the 3rd round or later, maybe 2nd round if a standout is available). Maybe get a TE, but that shouldn't be real high on our list and that also depends on the system we run. Our current system calls for big, blocking TEs, and some systems don't even really use a TE, so picking one entirely depends on our offensive system and whether we need to draft and/or sign one to fit that system.

Houston_Fan4life · 11-14-2005

Houston trade David Carr and 6th round pick to Baltimore for their 2nd round pick........................

1. Vincent Young-QB Texas
2. Johnathan Scott-LT Texas
2. Lenard Pope-TE Georgia ( from Baltimore )
3. Orin Harris-DT Miami ( FL )
3. Sinorice Moss-WR Miami (FL)
4. Will Allen-RT Texas
5. Taitusi Lutui-OG USC
6. Skyler Green-WR LSU ( trade to Baltimore )
7. Kwakou Robinson DT Virginia

MorKnolle · 11-14-2005

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Originally Posted by Houston_Fan4life

Houston trade David Carr and 6th round pick to Baltimore for their 2nd round pick........................

1. Vincent Young-QB Texas
2. Johnathan Scott-LT Texas
2. Lenard Pope-TE Georgia ( from Baltimore )
3. Orin Harris-DT Miami ( FL )
3. Sinorice Moss-WR Miami (FL)
4. Will Allen-RT Texas
5. Taitusi Lutui-OG USC
6. Skyler Green-WR LSU ( trade to Baltimore )
7. Kwakou Robinson DT Virginia

If we're doing a draft straight from our dreams, why don't we get Ferguson and Winston with our first two picks, then Reggie Bush will fall to us in the third round...

We're not trading Carr, Young won't come out and if he does we won't draft him, Johnathan Scott won't fall to the second round, Harris and Moss likely won't fall to the 3rd, and Skyler Green won't fall to the 6th.

**infantrycak** · 11-14-2005

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Originally Posted by Houston_Fan4life

Houston trade David Carr and 6th round pick to Baltimore for their 2nd round pick........................

Once and for all people--the Texans are not going to trade Carr. Either they do not exercise the option bonus before the end of the season and he will be a free agent or they will exercise the option bonus and he will not be traded because if he were traded, the entire amount of the bonus would charge to one year on the cap and become dead money.

College Texan · 11-14-2005

7 Round

1) 1st overall and seventh traded to Jets for both of their first and fourth next year

1A) B'Brick
1B) AJ Hawk
2) Micheal Huff
3) Leonard Pope
3) Bobby Carpenter
4) Skylar Green
5) Selvin Young
6) Traded w/next years sixth and seventh for early fifth/ 5)Taitusi Luitusi
7) traded

Coach C. · 11-14-2005

Wow this is an interesting post. Some dreams and not alot of meat. I mean trading away more picks when we have tons of holes that makes all the sense in the world.

First we need to be active in FA and lure a guy like Andre Davis ILB cleveland or Lecharles Bentley to our squad not to mention some of the other casualties of cap that will be available use FA to fill immediate holes. Then in the draft we go after 3 stars, 2 potentials, and depth. and we need as many picks as possible.

1. Winston/ Ferguson and if by some weird chance Bush falls we take him
2. If we get Bush grab a OL Withworth, Scott, McNeil, Trueblood, College should be available in round two if not get a DE or Tweener that is a pass rush specialist
3.a. It is time to look for another OL think Interior line or a standout LB-Rocky McIntosh
3b. whichever one we dont take from above or a nice Wideout
4. TE
5. Safety and DL
6. RB if we dont get Bush if we do pass rusher LBorDE
7. who cares just a practice squad player anyway.

rmartin65 · 11-14-2005

I like everything but Skyler Green. Why would we pick him?

Blake · 11-14-2005

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Originally Posted by rmartin65

I like everything but Skyler Green. Why would we pick him?

Durring LSU's champ year, he was a big factor IMO. About 500 recieving yards on 46 catches, and 5 rushes for 68 yards, or a 13.6 yard per carry average.

Sounds alot like a poor mans Reggie Bush. Now let me get everyones head straight. Im not saying he is as good as reggie, or has as good of stats. Im just saying that I feel Green could replace bush without a significant drop off in numbers on that USC team.

rmartin65 · 11-14-2005

Then Green will be gone well before the 6th round. i would like another pass rusher.

MorKnolle · 11-14-2005

Why would we get Selvin Young with Davis, Wells, and Morency on the team?

College Texan · 11-14-2005

Selvin reminds me of a Dominick Davis type. I think he can be a good backup and have good consistency like Wells, Morency doesn't have the strength for the position and he is like 26 or something next year. He's a better true RB than Morency. Plus he will probly fall into the second day and he is good value at a late pick. How many second day steals do we have?

College Texan · 11-14-2005

I might change Skylar Geen for a better person but I think my Mock is reasonable

7 Round

1) 1st overall and seventh traded to Jets for both of their first and fourth next year

1A) B'Brick
1B) AJ Hawk
2) Micheal Huff
3) Leonard Pope
3) Bobby Carpenter
4) Skylar Green
5) Selvin Young
6) Traded w/next years sixth and seventh for early fifth/ 5)Taitusi Luitusi
7) traded

rmartin65 · 11-14-2005

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Originally Posted by College Texan

I might change Skylar Geen for a better person but I think my Mock is reasonable

7 Round

1) 1st overall and seventh traded to Jets for both of their first and fourth next year

1A) B'Brick
1B) AJ Hawk
2) Micheal Huff
3) Leonard Pope
3) Bobby Carpenter
4) Skylar Green
5) Selvin Young
6) Traded w/next years sixth and seventh for early fifth/ 5)Taitusi Luitusi
7) traded

No way Carpenter lasts till the 3rd.

College Texan · 11-14-2005

I think we have a good chance to get him with our first third, if not then maybe we can get a late second by trading the last third along with something else. Either way I think he can grow into a better player than Hawk and we shouldn't pass him up.

11-13-2005	#1
YoungTexanFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,791 Rep Power: 653	new 7 round texan mock 1. D’Brick- LT Virginia 2. Elvis Dumervile-DE Louisville 3. Orin Harris-DT The U 3. Dwayne Slay-FS Texas Tech 4. Justin London-ILB/UCLA 5. Taitusi Lutui-OG USC 6. Skyler Green-WR LSU 7. Kwakou Robinson DT Virginia

11-14-2005	#7
MorKnolle Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,210 Rep Power: 0	You have us picking him in the third round though, which I doubt he will last that long anyways, and it makes even less sense to draft him if we switch to a 4-3. Seth Payne and Gary Walker have been two of the hardest workers and best performers on our defense this year. We have much bigger needs to fill than DT, we have Payne, Walker, Travis Johnson, and Robaire Smith who are all DTs (plus Ioane and Deloach), and if we switch to a 4-3 next year only two of them will play at a time, although like some other picks, that would depend on our coaching staff and system. I still think we need to address OL (1st and 3rd or 4th rounds), CB (2nd round if there is a good, athletic one available that will actually cover someone), DE/OLB (2nd-4th round, get someone who is athletic and big and can put pressure on a QB, their position will depend on whether we are running a 4-3 or 3-4), SS (Brown should be moved to FS, then pick up a SS in the 3rd round or later, maybe 2nd round if a standout is available). Maybe get a TE, but that shouldn't be real high on our list and that also depends on the system we run. Our current system calls for big, blocking TEs, and some systems don't even really use a TE, so picking one entirely depends on our offensive system and whether we need to draft and/or sign one to fit that system. Last edited by MorKnolle; 11-14-2005 at 11:12 AM.

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Houston_Fan4life Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 30 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Texans draft with some trade Houston trade David Carr and 6th round pick to Baltimore for their 2nd round pick........................ 1. Vincent Young-QB Texas 2. Johnathan Scott-LT Texas 2. Lenard Pope-TE Georgia ( from Baltimore ) 3. Orin Harris-DT Miami ( FL ) 3. Sinorice Moss-WR Miami (FL) 4. Will Allen-RT Texas 5. Taitusi Lutui-OG USC 6. Skyler Green-WR LSU ( trade to Baltimore ) 7. Kwakou Robinson DT Virginia

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11-14-2005	#6
beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,358 Rep Power: 15075	The foundation of the Texans was built on too many question marks to attain competitivness early on. Both lines are old & lack talent, Casserly should have been building this critical area of need and sacrificing the early years to build solid, young & talented lines. we need to be adding picks not subtracting valuable picks. it started with Hollings followed by the Babin trades then exasperated by trading both 2nd & 3rd round draft picks in 05. I have since awknowledged the need to draft the best defensive tackle in the draft last year (Travis Johnson) even if I thought it was Marcus Spears, the point is Casserly/Cappers finally recognized one of their true needs. if they had not made the PB trade they could have then addressed the LT position with Khalif Barnes (playing well with Jacksonville @ LT) and still taken a young CB like Domonique Foxworth (looks very good with Denver). So taking Orin Harris would make alot of sense to me, especially if the Texans change schemes and go to a 4-3 defense. however I don't feel he grades out as a 3rd pick, he is a solid 2nd rd prospect that could rise into the bottom of the 1st.

11-14-2005	#11
College Texan Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bay City Posts: 158 Rep Power: 8	7 Round 1) 1st overall and seventh traded to Jets for both of their first and fourth next year 1A) B'Brick 1B) AJ Hawk 2) Micheal Huff 3) Leonard Pope 3) Bobby Carpenter 4) Skylar Green 5) Selvin Young 6) Traded w/next years sixth and seventh for early fifth/ 5)Taitusi Luitusi 7) traded

11-14-2005	#12
Coach C. Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE Houston Posts: 1,422 Rep Power: 10	Wow this is an interesting post. Some dreams and not alot of meat. I mean trading away more picks when we have tons of holes that makes all the sense in the world. First we need to be active in FA and lure a guy like Andre Davis ILB cleveland or Lecharles Bentley to our squad not to mention some of the other casualties of cap that will be available use FA to fill immediate holes. Then in the draft we go after 3 stars, 2 potentials, and depth. and we need as many picks as possible. 1. Winston/ Ferguson and if by some weird chance Bush falls we take him 2. If we get Bush grab a OL Withworth, Scott, McNeil, Trueblood, College should be available in round two if not get a DE or Tweener that is a pass rush specialist 3.a. It is time to look for another OL think Interior line or a standout LB-Rocky McIntosh 3b. whichever one we dont take from above or a nice Wideout 4. TE 5. Safety and DL 6. RB if we dont get Bush if we do pass rusher LBorDE 7. who cares just a practice squad player anyway.

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rmartin65 I'm Score Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 7,499 Rep Power: 20041	I like everything but Skyler Green. Why would we pick him?

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