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Old 11-10-2005   #41
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We usually tailgate at football games anyways so the purchases inside are minimal. I do buy gear when I go to the stadium on my annual visits, not this year however, I can't make it to any games. But I do however agree in some sort of "protest" be it not purchasing gear, not buying concessions, not buying tickets etc...it's the most effective form of communication a fan has with the team. If you are unhappy you may call a radio show or post your disgruntles in a website forum, but will the CEO's or owners care about that? No, they care about the bottom line and if the bottom line is not to their liking, there will be changes.
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I am tired about this whole ďletís just be happy to have NFL footballĒ attitude some people promote. I feel that most fans have been very patient with the development of the Texans. ...
ATX - you put some thought into that and easy to read though lengthy, and just wanted to let you know it didn't go unnoticed.... bravo!!
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Apparently people think that in our fourth year after building a team from scratch that we should be better than all these teams that have been building up for decades.
Not quite the way it is in todays NFL.

The Indy Colts are currently undefeated. They have only 1 player who has played for a decade:
10 years..... Marvin Harrison
They currently list 63 players on their roster, (includes injured reserve).
40 of these players have 4 years or less of experience .
(just picked that number out of thin air )

The Texans have 1 win.
They have five players with 10 or more years experience
Coleman..10 years
Walker..11 years
Bruener..11 years
Weigert..11 years
Banks..10 years

Only 29 of our players have 4 years or less experience.

I didn't break it down to starters and reserves, but as you can see the vast majority of their players have the same or less experience than our Texans.

What does this prove??.......

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Maybe it proves that we're still have somewhat the "expansion" label as we have numerous veterans acquired in the expansion draft (with some sprinkled in later in acquisitions for draft picks) and have yet to get to that level of grooming from the draft.

I think in today's chronic Casserly even noted he might got a little ahead of himself in acquiring a player for multiple picks.... when we really wren't "one player" away from greatness.
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It proves that we do not draft well and the we are still shedding our expansion players. We had all those picks and couldn't do much with them other than the obvious selections (Carr, Johnson, Dunta..)

Again, a direct reflection on the GM.
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Like it or not the Texans are only in their fourth year. You really cant even count but one game in the first year,j/k, 19-10
Yeah, but unfortunately the signature game of this franchise was it's first. And we are now approaching game 57 as one of the league's worst teams with no improvement in sight.
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It proves that we do not draft well and the we are still shedding our expansion players. We had all those picks and couldn't do much with them other than the obvious selections (Carr, Johnson, Dunta..)

Again, a direct reflection on the GM.
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I cannot recall who the original expansion picks were, but I do not believe too many of them are still with the team. (I could be wrong though)

I do not know if we draft well or not. I do believe that Casserly is too quick to trade away draft picks. We also sign FAs from other teams who we think show promise, only to get them here and not perform up to expectations.
I really believe that we need a change in coaching to see if our players have "it" or not. It appears that there is too much "underperforming and non-executing" on this team for it to be all the fault of our players.
JMHO though.

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I know one thing. You people that are freaking out over this losing season are NFL virgins, and never followed an NFL team before.

If you were around when the Oilers were here, or were a fan of them at one time, you'd take this season with a grain of salt.

I don't think so. If you're referring to the early 80's, we sucked...but we were expected to suck. We were in the "down" cycle. You guys are not supposed to be there. Your supposed to be getting out of the expansion doldrums and competing for a playoff spot.

If you can get to 5 wins, then I think it's valid to say this season was not so anomolous tot he Houston football scene.... When the Oilers began assembling talent around Moon and people expected us to break through, kind of like where you guys are supposed to be, we had a couple of 5-11 seasons.

But I don't think you're going to get anywhere near 5 wins though you do have some games you should be competitive in (AZ, Jax, Titans, SF)....so you never know.

In 94, we got rid of everyone. It was the dawning of a new era. Once again, 2-14 hurt....but realistically everyone knew we were going down....or at least should have known.

And even though those 5-11 years were dissapointing under Moon when people expected us to break through...it never seemed this dark imo. People had confidence in the youngf talent and everyone seemed to think we were still heading in the right direction. Doesn't seem like that's the case there in Houston right now.

So as a ratio between expectations and success...this is shaping up as the worst year in my lifetime for Houston NFL football imo.
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Apparently people think that in our fourth year after building a team from scratch that we should be better than all these teams that have been building up for decades.
Need I remind you that even the Browns, of all teams, made the playoffs in year 4. One of the worst run franchises of it's time, who had nothing come from the exapnsion draft, and couldn't hit on a first rd pick if their very lives depended on it, made the playoffs in yr 4.

Need I also remind you that the Texans aren't just having an off year, they are historically bad, and much worse than their first yr, with 3 drafts and FA signing periods in between. This team was flirting with an alltime NFL record for not having a lead for even one play the entire year. Disapointing year? Get real. This is way beyond disapointing, and if someone doesn't want to support this mess with their hard earned dollars, I am certainly not one to have a problem with that. OTOH, if people want to support a disaster, it's certainly their perrogtive. That's why they make quarter pounders and big macs.
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The Charlie Casserly with a target on his head is priceless!

Capers should be retained as a defensive coordinator...NOT!

3-4 defense isn't working under him or Fangio...next!

I would love to get the Longhorns and develop them into the Texans next team. O-line...D-line...linebackers...backfield...come to thik of it...I think Vince Young and the Horns would embarrass the Texans and Capers...

Okay, rant over!
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The Charlie Casserly with a target on his head is priceless!

Capers should be retained as a defensive coordinator...NOT!

3-4 defense isn't working under him or Fangio...next!

I would love to get the Longhorns and develop them into the Texans next team. O-line...D-line...linebackers...backfield...come to thik of it...I think Vince Young and the Horns would embarrass the Texans and Capers...

Okay, rant over!
Its coaching and nothing else is wrong. Yea, we could have changed the emphasis of our draft some, but that is simply a coaches biasis too. Frustrating isn't it?
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Need I remind you that even the Browns, of all teams, made the playoffs in year 4. One of the worst run franchises of it's time, who had nothing come from the exapnsion draft, and couldn't hit on a first rd pick if their very lives depended on it, made the playoffs in yr 4.

Need I also remind you that the Texans aren't just having an off year, they are historically bad, and much worse than their first yr, with 3 drafts and FA signing periods in between. This team was flirting with an alltime NFL record for not having a lead for even one play the entire year. Disapointing year? Get real. This is way beyond disapointing, and if someone doesn't want to support this mess with their hard earned dollars, I am certainly not one to have a problem with that. OTOH, if people want to support a disaster, it's certainly their perrogtive. That's why they make quarter pounders and big macs.
Dang, Porky, you had to tell me about the Browns. I didn't know they went to the playoffs by year 4.

I can certainly understand your pov as outlined in your second paragraph. It's not my style as a fan, but it's within everyone's right to support/not support the team.

I'd rather demand the removal of the HC and still support the cause, myself.

But losing seasons are still part of the overall cycle of sports teams...I guess we just have a longer cycle than other recent franchise teams, 'eh?
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Not quite the way it is in todays NFL.

The Indy Colts are currently undefeated. They have only 1 player who has played for a decade:
10 years..... Marvin Harrison
They currently list 63 players on their roster, (includes injured reserve).
40 of these players have 4 years or less of experience .
(just picked that number out of thin air )

The Texans have 1 win.
They have five players with 10 or more years experience
Coleman..10 years
Walker..11 years
Bruener..11 years
Weigert..11 years
Banks..10 years

Only 29 of our players have 4 years or less experience.

I didn't break it down to starters and reserves, but as you can see the vast majority of their players have the same or less experience than our Texans.

What does this prove??.......

Fire away.

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I was not implying that teams with people who have been in the league for 10+ years will be better than teams with younger players. My point was that we are in the fourth year of our team starting from scratch, whereas these other teams have been building their rosters, coaching staffs, and everyone else involved for however many years, so they have more experience and have had a longer time to collect players that are key components of their team and continually bring up new talent through their team and system. If the NFL forced the Colts to dump their team at the end of the year and start over from scratch and have to pick up a bunch of people in an expansion draft and try to rebuild a team over the next three years, I'm willing to bet they'd be about where our team is now. They might not be 1-7 but they would not be a good team.
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Yes, the Browns made the playoffs in year 4, but look where they're at now, having a down year after building something relatively successful just like us. The Panthers and Jaguars almost made the Super Bowl in their second year. My point was that all teams go through this cycle, and the Texans got their veteran talent in the expansion draft, they were starting to get older and on their way out, so the team has started a rebuilding process, which is likely about to get much more intense this offseason. I am not pleased with a 1-7 record, but this is a natural thing in professional sports, and many people for some reason expected year 4 to be the magical year in which we would contend for a Super Bowl or something like that so they are already talking about giving up on the team and boycotting it and so on. I am not happy with the results this year, most of you I'm sure are not happy with them, and I know the team is not happy with them, and changes will be made in the offseason and the team will continue building and go from there. So stop calling for boycotts of the team because we aren't Super Bowl contenders in our fourth year (for those of you that this applies to), and just go out and enjoy football and support your team or else jump on someone else's bandwagon until the Texans are Super Bowl contenders.
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No one's asking for the Texans to be Super Bowl contenders. We just ask for 8-8 or better.
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Angry Cycle?

I see the use of the word "cycle" in several posts in this topic.

1 : an interval of time during which a sequence of a recurring succession of events or phenomena is completed
2 a : a course or series of events or operations that recur regularly and usually lead back to the starting point

I suppose our (the Texans) cycle is composed of losing seasons only.,,
Sorry, but teams like the Boys, Pats, Rams and now even the Bengals have gone through a cycle. A cycle that includes winning anyway.
The word cycle reminds me of the work execute. Makes for a good sounding excuse. But thats just me.

ps My first broker tried to use that excuse, it didn't fly then either.
He is as gone as this bunch of coaches should be.


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I think the reason everyone had high expectations for this year is because we were told to expect more. We are in the 4th year of a 5 year plan. Calling it a down cycle would presume we had already completed our original plan and now have to rebuild due to defections in free agency because our players are more desired by other teams and defections in coaching because of the same. This has not happened. Jeff Posey and Kenny Wright are two players we let go through free agency. We cut Sharper and Aaron Glenn. Apparently they were no longer a part of the 5 yr plan, they were only to get us to year 4. Face it, we were sold a bill of goods telling us that this year we should expect a run at the playoffs. It was all a part of the five year plan. We all bought into it and that's why we're so perplexed about why our team is possibly one of the worst in NFL history. Through 480 minutes of play this year, our team has led for somewhere around 10-15 of them. That is not what we were told to expect.
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I was not implying that teams with people who have been in the league for 10+ years will be better than teams with younger players. My point was that we are in the fourth year of our team starting from scratch, whereas these other teams have been building their rosters, coaching staffs, and everyone else involved for however many years, so they have more experience and have had a longer time to collect players that are key components of their team and continually bring up new talent through their team and system. If the NFL forced the Colts to dump their team at the end of the year and start over from scratch and have to pick up a bunch of people in an expansion draft and try to rebuild a team over the next three years, I'm willing to bet they'd be about where our team is now. They might not be 1-7 but they would not be a good team.
One of my points was the fact that most of the new talent they have brought in has been in the last four years.
The decades thing sounds good, but I wonder just how long the Pats current GM and coaches have been on the job.
Not picking a fight with one of my favorite posters, ..just discussing the state of our favorite team...

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I don't think so. If you're referring to the early 80's, we sucked...but we were expected to suck. We were in the "down" cycle. You guys are not supposed to be there. Your supposed to be getting out of the expansion doldrums and competing for a playoff spot.

If you can get to 5 wins, then I think it's valid to say this season was not so anomolous tot he Houston football scene.... When the Oilers began assembling talent around Moon and people expected us to break through, kind of like where you guys are supposed to be, we had a couple of 5-11 seasons.

But I don't think you're going to get anywhere near 5 wins though you do have some games you should be competitive in (AZ, Jax, Titans, SF)....so you never know.

In 94, we got rid of everyone. It was the dawning of a new era. Once again, 2-14 hurt....but realistically everyone knew we were going down....or at least should have known.

And even though those 5-11 years were dissapointing under Moon when people expected us to break through...it never seemed this dark imo. People had confidence in the youngf talent and everyone seemed to think we were still heading in the right direction. Doesn't seem like that's the case there in Houston right now.

So as a ratio between expectations and success...this is shaping up as the worst year in my lifetime for Houston NFL football imo.
Agree. I've been around since Blanda,Tolar, and Charlie Hennigan, and no Oiler team that I can remember (OK, I'll give you failing memory) was as bad AND as dull as this team that the Houston Pablums have cooked up.
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'83 was pretty bad - probably as bad or worse than this year's version of the Texans... and we still had Earl - but not much else. I recall going up to Minneapolis that year to watch the winless Oilers take on the Vikings sometime around mid-season. It was the game where a scrambling Archie Manning threw the windmill softball pitch underhand pass to some receiver that's forever etched in the blooper reels. That game was almost as embarrassing as the Texans recent trip to Seattle - at least it wasn't on national tv.

There was a lot of excitement when Hugh Campbell and Moon came in in '84 but that quickly died. It really didn't get fun again until the end of the '86 season when Glanville's boys won their last four home games (including wins that helped knock the Bengals and Vikes out of the playoffs) - the dawning of the House of Pain.
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