Who gets dumped cap-free at the end of the year? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

mrm17 · 11-06-2005

Let's make a list of who we can drop at the end of the year:

1. Seth Wand
2. Corey Bradford (nobody else even CALLED him last year when he was available)
3. Not Todd Wade (nope, we're stuck with his contract against the cap, even if we do dump him)
4. Weigert? (*might be nice if he practiced more than 3 times per season)
5. McKinney (dare we drop an Aggie, even if he's SO overrated it's comical?)
6. Milford Brown (waste of a supplemental pick)
7. Buchannon (can we have the draft picks back?)
8. Walker (talks a great game, has played exactly two great games since '02)
9. Babin (nope, he signed at least a 3-year deal, right?)

What other names can anyone else come up with?

Napa Auto Parts · 11-06-2005

David Carr

mrm17 · 11-06-2005

I would completely agree with you about Carr, and saving the $8M bonus, but I have a question:

Who do we have currently, or could we lure, that would be better? Or more importantly, give us a better chance to win? Please don't say Banks - with our line, he'd fumble 8 times per game. Cheaper yes, better chance to win: NO.

grandslam1 · 11-06-2005

With Carr as our QB we can consentrate on the lines not having to worry about the QB. BTW the pass from Carr to Bradford was perfect....

mrm17 · 11-06-2005

That's true, it was perfectly thrown. But to our worst receiver.

I like Carr overall, but would move him if it made business sense. And right now it doesn't make sense.

How many more guaranteed years are on Walker's deal? Again, he was another one we resigned when no one else was even calling about him.

**Vinny** · 11-06-2005

Walker is one of the few Texans that could start on most any NFL team. AJ and Dunta are the other two.

**beerlover** · 11-06-2005

what about Coleman? he is soft, the Texans are constantly exploited down the middle, he does not hit like a Safety with a 3 million tag & he's signed thru 2007.

mrm17 · 11-06-2005

Then let WAlker go to another team. His medical bills aren't worth it to me. Draft and play more young guys.

ccdude730 · 11-07-2005

out of your list. we will keep #'s 3, 7, 8, 9

Coach C. · 11-07-2005

ccdude I think you are right. Those guys will likely be back. We might want to think about moving Wade to RG if we have a chance. I know Wand is terrible at LT, but at RT he would be functional. Then again if we grab a elite LT he will be there anyway. Our next coaching staff will be smart and start the rookie Winston at RT for some games maybe even the season. Look for Pitts, McKinney, Hodg or Rookie, Weigert/Wade, Winston/rookie/Wand. We will cut guys like chamberlain, hollings(who looked really slow in his return), and Riley. These guys are all likely to be gone.

aj. · 11-07-2005

Walker is signed through '09. Cut him prior to then and he counts $1.8 million per year in dead money against the cap. Example: even if he plays next year and is cut after the 2006 season, he will count ($1.8 million x 3 =) $5.4 million against the cap when he's cut for not playing in '07, '08, and '09. Between this and Todd Wade's deal, we have some serious future cap money tied up.

Grid · 11-07-2005

If, god willing *prays*, we replace our coaches next season.. we will be surprised at who goes..and who stays.

Any time there is a big "changing of the guard"..certain players who we feel are "sure things" will be cut....and others that we feel are "a waste of space".. will become starters.

Personally...Id like to see Seth Wand at RT.. and id like to see Wells getting more carries.

**utahmark** · 11-07-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny

Walker is one of the few Texans that could start on most any NFL team. AJ and Dunta are the other two.

thats pathetic. no wonder we s###. maybe payne, pitts and carr could start for some teams as well. there are only a couple of other teams that the rest of these guys could start for.(if that)

Napa Auto Parts · 11-07-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandslam1

With Carr as our QB we can consentrate on the lines not having to worry about the QB. BTW the pass from Carr to Bradford was perfect....

Banks for one has he not proven he can win when he has started for us? so yes he does give us a better chance to win understand we have a mediocre QB that no way in the world deserves 8 million. i rather give those 8 million to our kicker brown that has deserved it more than our great Qb Carr.

Napa Auto Parts · 11-07-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by markbeth

thats pathetic. no wonder we s###. maybe payne, pitts and carr could start for some teams as well. there are only a couple of other teams that the rest of these guys could start for.(if that)

Carr might start for another team like the Jets but only becuase Vinny isnt 100% 65 year old Vinny T is 100 times better than D Carr.

wags · 11-07-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napa Auto Parts

Carr might start for another team like the Jets but only becuase Vinny isnt 100% 65 year old Vinny T is 100 times better than D Carr.

See the stick? See the stick? Go get it!! Go get it!! (Throws stick over to another teams message board)

**infantrycak** · 11-07-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by wags

See the stick? See the stick? Go get it!! Go get it!! (Throws stick over to another teams message board)

LOL--now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

gjmac2 · 11-09-2005

My list so far:

Bradford
Coleman
Wade

Those who have until the end of the season:

Babin
Walker
Buchanon

El Tejano · 11-09-2005

Bradford, Mckinney, Hollings, Coleman

Until end of the season:

Buchannon, Babin

YoungTexanFan · 11-09-2005

bradford, colmen, fagins, mckinny, hollings, sanders, wade, riley

until the end of the season:
babin, simmons, peek, greenwood, walker, payne, bennie,

thats a lot of starters...

11-06-2005	#1
mrm17 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Who gets dumped cap-free at the end of the year? Let's make a list of who we can drop at the end of the year: 1. Seth Wand 2. Corey Bradford (nobody else even CALLED him last year when he was available) 3. Not Todd Wade (nope, we're stuck with his contract against the cap, even if we do dump him) 4. Weigert? (*might be nice if he practiced more than 3 times per season) 5. McKinney (dare we drop an Aggie, even if he's SO overrated it's comical?) 6. Milford Brown (waste of a supplemental pick) 7. Buchannon (can we have the draft picks back?) 8. Walker (talks a great game, has played exactly two great games since '02) 9. Babin (nope, he signed at least a 3-year deal, right?) What other names can anyone else come up with?

11-06-2005	#3
mrm17 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	drop Carr? I would completely agree with you about Carr, and saving the $8M bonus, but I have a question: Who do we have currently, or could we lure, that would be better? Or more importantly, give us a better chance to win? Please don't say Banks - with our line, he'd fumble 8 times per game. Cheaper yes, better chance to win: NO.

11-06-2005	#5
mrm17 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	perfect pass That's true, it was perfectly thrown. But to our worst receiver. I like Carr overall, but would move him if it made business sense. And right now it doesn't make sense. How many more guaranteed years are on Walker's deal? Again, he was another one we resigned when no one else was even calling about him.

11-06-2005	#6
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Walker is one of the few Texans that could start on most any NFL team. AJ and Dunta are the other two. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

11-06-2005	#8
mrm17 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	walker? Then let WAlker go to another team. His medical bills aren't worth it to me. Draft and play more young guys.

11-06-2005	#2
Napa Auto Parts Hall of Fame Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Age: 35 Posts: 1,186 Rep Power: 15	David Carr

11-06-2005	#4
grandslam1 Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 9	With Carr as our QB we can consentrate on the lines not having to worry about the QB. BTW the pass from Carr to Bradford was perfect....

11-06-2005	#7
beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,378 Rep Power: 15075	what about Coleman? he is soft, the Texans are constantly exploited down the middle, he does not hit like a Safety with a 3 million tag & he's signed thru 2007.

11-07-2005	#9
ccdude730 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Corpus Christi Posts: 1,615 Rep Power: 128	out of your list. we will keep #'s 3, 7, 8, 9 __________________

11-07-2005	#10
Coach C. Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE Houston Posts: 1,422 Rep Power: 10	ccdude I think you are right. Those guys will likely be back. We might want to think about moving Wade to RG if we have a chance. I know Wand is terrible at LT, but at RT he would be functional. Then again if we grab a elite LT he will be there anyway. Our next coaching staff will be smart and start the rookie Winston at RT for some games maybe even the season. Look for Pitts, McKinney, Hodg or Rookie, Weigert/Wade, Winston/rookie/Wand. We will cut guys like chamberlain, hollings(who looked really slow in his return), and Riley. These guys are all likely to be gone.

11-07-2005	#11
aj. Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,769 Rep Power: 657	Walker is signed through '09. Cut him prior to then and he counts $1.8 million per year in dead money against the cap. Example: even if he plays next year and is cut after the 2006 season, he will count ($1.8 million x 3 =) $5.4 million against the cap when he's cut for not playing in '07, '08, and '09. Between this and Todd Wade's deal, we have some serious future cap money tied up.

11-07-2005	#12
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	If, god willing prays, we replace our coaches next season.. we will be surprised at who goes..and who stays. Any time there is a big "changing of the guard"..certain players who we feel are "sure things" will be cut....and others that we feel are "a waste of space".. will become starters. Personally...Id like to see Seth Wand at RT.. and id like to see Wells getting more carries.

11-09-2005	#18
gjmac2 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 42 Posts: 296 Rep Power: 13	Who Needs to Go? My list so far: Bradford Coleman Wade Those who have until the end of the season: Babin Walker Buchanon __________________ “But the thing that’s changed around here is that we won’t take any moral victories. We’re here to win." - Gary Kubiak

11-09-2005	#19
El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	Bradford, Mckinney, Hollings, Coleman Until end of the season: Buchannon, Babin

11-09-2005	#20
YoungTexanFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,794 Rep Power: 653	bradford, colmen, fagins, mckinny, hollings, sanders, wade, riley until the end of the season: babin, simmons, peek, greenwood, walker, payne, bennie, thats a lot of starters...

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