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Old 11-06-2005   #21
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The Texans scored 2 touchdowns in two games this year, one of the games was today. All the other games we scored one touchdown. Carr checks downfield then dumpes the ball off to DD. When he isn't in there he actually found receivers today. If you checked the games last year when DD was hurt the same thing happened. Either sit DD or Carr don't play both of them at the same time.

Actually probally sitting Carr isn't a bad idea. Of course this is already in another post.
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Old 11-06-2005   #22
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Somebody could double check my numbers, but the Texans have scored 107 through 8 games. They scored 14 points today. 107-14= 93.

So prior to today 93 divided by 7 games 13.3 points per game.
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What if the Texans had a coaching staff that could utilize Andre Johnson and Domanick Davis at the same time? That would be just fine and dandy.
Now, that is a thought I could get behind.
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i think the offensive line starting to play a little better has more to do with our 2 td's than anything else.
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Somebody could double check my numbers, but the Texans have scored 107 through 8 games. They scored 14 points today. 107-14= 93.

So prior to today 93 divided by 7 games 13.3 points per game.
So how many games you think we can win scoring 13.3 points per game this year.
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I think a passing game has something to do with it, and I'm not talking about screen passes either.
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What if the Texans had a coaching staff that could utilize Andre Johnson and Domanick Davis at the same time? That would be just fine and dandy.
Yea, and then we could all skip through the Middle East singing kumbaya.
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So how many games you think we can win scoring 13.3 points per game this year.
About the same that the 14 point performance you guys are raving about.
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Wow...all sorts of theories come out of the wood works when a team spirals down. . .
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He does have a point. While I wouldn't say to bench him or trade him, I do notice our passing offense sucks when we overuse Davis. I don't know if it's Carr's fault, or if it's the playcalling, but look at the first half of last season. We weren't using Davis much because of his fumble problems, but Carr was throwing for like 275 ypg and 65% completions with a rating close to 100. In the 2nd half when we started forcing Davis into the offense, Carr's % dropped to mid 50's and his ypg dropped to ~ 200 and a rating around 70-80.
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http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpag.../gamelogs/2004 is where you can see the stats.
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What if the Texans had a coaching staff that could utilize Andre Johnson and Domanick Davis at the same time? That would be just fine and dandy.
Wait a minute. Are you telling me that there are coaches out there who utilize the talent available to them and maximize their effectiveness? That's insanity.


I don't see how DD is the problem here. Wells was part of the passing game as well. Didn't he have like 44 yards recieving and 56 yards rushing or something like that? Seems to me like DD would've put up similar numbers had he been able to start. I think that David just seems to play better against the Jaguars than he does against most other teams.
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exactly Rovator.

Carr's playing and stats go way up WITHOUT DD in the game. Why? Who cares. We have now identified a main ingrediant to the Texans problems, DD. Bench him. He is obviously slowing down David Carr's development as much as the O-line is.
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Yea because our offense looked so dynamic today without DD.

There's no one to blame for DD's overuse except for Capers.

Now, if this offense would be better with less RB dumpoffs, I could go with that.
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Now, if this offense would be better with less RB dumpoffs, I could go with that.
thats the whole point of sitting DD down. Carr does not have the easy dump off pass to him and is forced to go through his WR progressions and find the open receiver.

DD is obviously a huge problem to our offense and needs to sit down so Carr can develop his QB skills. DD is Carr's crutch, obviously and we need to get rid of the crutch and get Carr back on the development track.
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I'm not against getting rid of the crutch, I just don't understand the "trade DD" solution.
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Here's an idea that I've been preaching all season long: LETS GET A REAL OFFENSIVE LINE!! One that can run block for D Dand one that can give Carr more than 2 seconds to pass! It angers me when stupid talk like this occurs and people are too dumb to notice the problem in front of their eyes. Davis is a good back, if Carr dumps off to him, thats not Davis' fault! Lets see what happens when him, AJ, Mathis, and Gaffney are all on the field together before we pass judgement on a RB who had 1776 total yards and 14 TDs last year.

Also, we just signed him to a nice big extension in the offeseason so QUIT DREAMING!!
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DD seems to do just fine with our offensive line. Imagine what he could do with a real O-line and what we could get for trade for him. But this thread is about DD and sitting him or trading him. If you want to inject the 'O-line is the whole problem' idea, pick one of the 1,332,345 OTHER threads that it already exists in.

DD sits and the team comes alive, get the magic, whatever you want to call it. When he isn't on the field the entire team seems to do better offensively. Lets sit him down for a few games and see how the improvements go.
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I doubt we get a whole lot in a trade for DD. He does a lot of things decent but he doesn't do anything exceptional either. There are a lot of RBs drafted in the mid rounds every year that are nearly identical to him. Not trying to take anything away from him but we probably wouldn't get more than a 3rd or really late 2nd.
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No reason to even find out, he has signed a 5 year extention so he is here. DD is a good back that fits our system, but he does need to be spelled more so that he can be healthy all season. Any RB that gets the ball as much as he does starts to build fluid on his knee. Anyway DD should neither be benched or traded. He is one of the stars on this team and should be for a good long time. If the next coaching staff like Vinny implied started passing the ball more then DD would likely add 25+ yards per game. incase you did not know that is an extra 400yds per season.
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