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Old 11-04-2005   #21
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I'm not going to answere to posters who blame a bad start on the coaches. When Don suits up, and plays.. then I will. To respond to fire Carr, is to credit to their blaming him for the losses. This flaming the Texans is waste of good sence. What rational explanations to fire everyone. Just apply them to the Eagles, or any NFL team.. Ya all haven't done anything, but gripe & cry. From C.C. to the beerman.. it's take a shot at them! Why not name this place. FLAME THE TEXANS BOARD. Heck a kid can see we aren't on track. I'm not going to assume things will be better if we clean house by fireing the staff. You can, but your job is not being a pro-anything in the NFL and no one is going listen to your weak reality.. All I know is when Sunday comes... I will watch My Texans and enjoy the game win or lose. I will enjoy any good plays, I hope they get on track.. and if we come up short, I will look forward to next week for the improvement that is comming. While you all can yell fire them and cry we suck.. But don't try to sell me your pink soap..
OK we'll just keep on with Capers and co. and everyone could just call us the Bengals of the new millenuim.
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I have to say that each of your posts are loaded with a great deal of negativity, yet you seem to be against that sort of thing. Perhaps I'm just confused. Anyway, it's clear that you don't blame the coaching staff, and that is your entitled opinion. Perhaps you'd care to share your opinion on why this same group of players performed so much better last season? Or why certain players leave here, only to perform better elsewhere? Or why other teams can draft linemen in the middle rounds of the draft and turn them into a cohesive unit that blocks sufficiently?

If you choose to support the team with no complaints when they perform poorly, that is your prerogative. Perhaps you'd be better off not visiting a forum where such things are discussed, however.

Cheers to you and the Texans
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What rational explanations to fire everyone. Just apply them to the Eagles, or any NFL team.. Ya all haven't done anything, but gripe & cry.
I'll refrain from discussing the rest of your post (especially the part about your continuous trolls pertaining to alleged board flaming. You obviously misunderstand the definition of these words....but I digress).

Did you really mean to ask us to compare this Texans team with the Philadelphia Eagles?

Well, O.K., if you insist...

I'm assuming here that you want to talk about the Coach Reid era, and here's his records:

2005 NFL Philadelphia Eagles 4-3-0
2004 NFL Philadelphia Eagles 13-3-0
2003 NFL Philadelphia Eagles 12-4-0
2002 NFL Philadelphia Eagles 12-4-0
2001 NFL Philadelphia Eagles 11-5-0
2000 NFL Philadelphia Eagles 11-5-0
1999 NFL Philadelphia Eagles 5-11-0

Regular Season Record Total (under Coach Reid): 68-35

2005 NFL Houston Texans 1-6-0
2004 NFL Houston Texans 7-9-0
2003 NFL Houston Texans 5-11-0
2002 NFL Houston Texans 4-12-0

Regular Season Record Total (under Coach Capers): 17-38

Now granted, the Texans are/were an expansion team, so I'm not sure why you want to compare them to the Eagles.

BUT, do you think Philly fans would be happy if the Eagles had the same record as the Texans the past four years?

Can you honestly tell me, with a straight face, that Eagles fans would just be happy having football and such a nice coach?

What I'm failing to understand from you is any depth of understanding. More specifically, how long do YOU propose fans wait until they express their discontent? How long do YOU want to keep Coach Capers on the staff, in spite of evidence that the team is no longer of a desire to play for him?

IMO, you've failed to express anything more than a troll argument in a rather weak attempt to place yourself on some imaginary higher plain of being a superior fan. In your mind, you're right.
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Wink Dear Mr. Troll,

Man, you're grumpy today.

yeah, the Eagles are "last" in their division, except you fail to mention that EVERY team in that division currently has a winning record. Oh yeah, this just in - the Eagles have been to four (4) NFC Championship games in a row, the last resulting in a Superbowl appearance.

Since you're obviously of superior football intellect than the rest of us, please explain what, exactly, is the source of the Texans' [alleged] problem(s) right now?

The players you say? hmmmm, and who picked these players?

So you find great joy in a 1-6 team. Good for you. Please explain, Professor, why we should be elated in a losing team that had [perceived] great potential coming into this season?

Maybe with your vast reserve of knowledge, and your detailed explanation (even with your brain tied behind your back), you can bring the rest of us up to par and we'll be able to properly communicate with you.

oh yeah, please send Mrs. Capers our best regards.
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uh huh....

TATWB - man, I love the optimism and you had me agreeing till you got to
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Lastly, I feel we have Dom Capers working for us. Now, you may disagree, as your frustrated with how this season is going thus far. However, his a true mark of man and a good coach. He contains a consistent and steady approach in terms of what we must do to turn things around.
I'll agree, he may be the coach to start up a team (with a previous track record) but I don't see him as the one that will lead the TEXANS to the promised land. He did wonders as a def coor in Jax, but it seems whenever given the HC job - it just doesn't fly. If it was still the offseason of 2005, then I could see a consistent, steady approach - but to keep a majority of the same players from last year and have a severe dive to date of the 2005 season.... I think that consistency just lost it's juice.

Again, love the optimism - keep it going and the TEXANS will turn it around soon to give you more to back it up.
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I can't see your side... I won't see blaming coaches.. players for a win or a loss. IT's a team effort. Let's not beat a dead horse. I'll go my way.. and you may go your way..

...ok, so everyone is waiting---what is your way? Why are the Texans so bad and what are they going to do about it? Most posters at least offer an idea of why they think a certain way--so please give us some insight!!
...almost forgot--there are players and coaches and fans and we are losing, so if it's not the players/coaches fault--is it the fans?

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I'm not going to answere to posters who blame a bad start on the coaches. When Don suits up, and plays.. then I will. To respond to fire Carr, is to credit to their blaming him for the losses. This flaming the Texans is waste of good sence.
First, supporting the Texans means trying to honestly look out for the best interests of the team. Many (myself among them) believe that the BEST THING THAT COULD BE DONE for this team is replace the bulk of the coaching staff and the GM.

Second, Capers and his people have run this franchise into the ground in 4 years, made a mess of it, made poor draft and FA moves, played people out of position, made dozens of clearly apparent coaching and management errors, and babied the QB for no reason other than they picked him first in the first round.

You can support that record if you want to; that's your business and your choice. Don't equate that with being a "good Texans fan," however.
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If I had those answer or you ... anyone have the answer's They would be a highly paid coach in the NFL. A blanket statement is easy, O-line play, get better on both sides of the ball... But statements like I see on this board, blame everyone.. even the wife's. Ya, all want a quick fix. Well good luck with that. The Chief's had defence problems. and draft well, but they still have a poor defence. We got fans here that go nuts because they didn't get there guy.. Well what's his face didn't plug in their defence, S.Taylor, the " must for us " to take us to the S.B. is waste. This is the NFL... that's best of the best. Nothing is easy. One week, and your a hero... next week your a bum. D.D has been called, names here that totally out of line. Then he gets praised. Fire the coach is as old as the hills.. the quick fix.
Well, at least you finally admit that Caper's doesn't have a clue so what's next?
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I would like to know who is coaching or helping David Carr develop as a QB since the Texans fired Palmer? they promoted Pendry to OC but he doesn't have the QB coaching experience Palmer had so it would seem to me that Carr is out there completly solo developing under fire via game time experience only. this does not seem like the way to run a program or coach a team, its become structureless, at least have Vinny offer Carr some guruship since he knows and expresses his faults/shortcomings so well
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