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Old 10-26-2005   #1
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""With a guy like Seth, he doesn't talk a whole lot," Texans defensive end Travis Johnson said. "Those that do (speak regularly), what they say is just in one ear and out the other. But with Seth, he's been in the league. He's been on good teams and bad ones. So for him to stand up and talk to us about the season, that will hopefully do a lot.
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I've gotta' wonder what he said. As well as if it will make any difference.

If I was a gambling man, I'd venture a wager that it won't do a darn thing. Leadership starts with the head coach.

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It's great that Seth had the courage to step up and try to light the fire, BUT, self motivation is just as important as being pushed by someone who makes a speech. That motivational speech will be worthless untill those guys decide they want to get out there and play as a team, put forth every effort they can on an individual basis, and bust their lazy butts to earn the salaries that they are getting paid for doing a lousy job! BUT, our players don't believe in themselves. In their minds they have already failed, so why try! I hope Seth's speech will help get that immature, sorry attitude out of their big arrogant heads! Each player needs to look inside his own heart and decide whether he wants to play for this team or not. If the answer is NO, then get the HE** out!! JMO!
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With an offense beginning to look like a legitimate unit and some big plays from the special teams, the winds of change are stirring — no matter how solemn the Texans' locker room appears at this point.
How can these Chronicle 'reporters' spew this from an offense that threw for 6 net yards?
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Seth got a sack Sunday, which I think makes #2 for the season and I'm
thinking that would lead the team for sacks. If so, pretty unusual for a 3-4
NT to be a teams sack leader. Anyway, when he made his speech, besides
knowing what he said it would be real interesting to know if the HC and his
assistants remained in the room while Seth was speaking ?
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There are some telltale aspects of that article, especially the mention of how important veteran leadership is to a team. And, of course, the fact that the front office decided to jettison the defensive leadership in the off-season kind of proves the point, 'eh?
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Many people around here treat Seth like he is chopped liver and right now he is by far the best thing going we have on the DL.
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It is about friggin time someone stepped up and started to be a leader on this team.
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it would be real interesting to know if the HC and his
assistants remained in the room while Seth was speaking ?
I wondered that too. The coaches need to step up too; admit past mistakes and show some flexibility of thought. The status quo isn't good enough from the coaches either.
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Many people around here treat Seth like he is chopped liver and right now he is by far the best thing going we have on the DL.
him and Davis are our only bright spots. the D would be better if they weren't on the field for 40min. if the o line could pull together we might actullay win a game!!! man a the start of the season i was really happy with the way the D looked on paper. and i still think they are great, just the O needs to let them rest!
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This does make me curious of what he said but even more importantly than that, I want to see what affect it has on the team going into the game on Sunday.
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No joke yall, I was going to come in and ask if there was ever going to be a players only meeting. Glad to see someone step up. These are the kind of players we keep.
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Many people around here treat Seth like he is chopped liver and right now he is by far the best thing going we have on the DL.
I have to disagree there. Travis Johnson hasn't done much from what I've seen, but stats aside I've seen Robaire Smith in the opponents backfield causing havoc alot more often than Payne. He's stepped up this year IMO, and I wouldn't say that Payne is outperforming him "by far."
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Glad to see someone step up. These are the kind of players we keep.
Which, of course, means he'll be gone next season.*

*if Coach Capers is still here
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I have to disagree there. Travis Johnson hasn't done much from what I've seen, but stats aside I've seen Robaire Smith in the opponents backfield causing havoc alot more often than Payne. He's stepped up this year IMO, and I wouldn't say that Payne is outperforming him "by far."
Smith has played well this year. However, I am amazed at Payne's relentlessness in following the ball no matter where it is on the field. Dunta, Payne, Smith and Brown have been pretty good this year.
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This is a natural phase of a dying organization....the majority are searching for leaders and many are simply looking out for themselves.
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How can these Chronicle 'reporters' spew this from an offense that threw for 6 net yards?
The offense i saw on sunday did not looked improved at all. Carr was sacked five times, had six completions, give me a break. Caper's said we had a balanced attack in the first half. Maybe this reporter just listened to dom and did not watch the game. Better take another look at your notes dom. This offense was anything but balanced.
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Hopefully that did spark something for them and that we will see a positive result on Sunday in the form of a WIN.

I'd like to see them showing more emotion when someone blows a play. I mean damn, there are still 10 games left and I for damn sure would not being playing to lose out there. Hope that speech has them getting it together.
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This offense was anything but balanced.
Very true, but the rushing side of the O was really looking good in the first half. Now the second half was another story. But I got a chance to look at some tape of that first half, and I think we got a 5th round find in our rookie center. I'm anxious to see how he does against the Browns this Sunday.
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quiet veteran defender, frustrated with the performance, one of only a couple guys actually out there playing, finally speaks out ... and at this time next year payne will be with the seahawks.
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