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Old 10-20-2005   #41
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I don't think Pete Carroll is cut out to be an NFL coach. He's sort of like the Rick Pitino of football. Great coach at the college level... one of the best... but whatever it is he does simply doesn't translate well to NFL players. There's a big difference between coaching 20-year-olds and coaching 23-year-old millionaires.

I like the guy a lot. He's totally likeable. But if you look at what happened when he was in New England, he inherited a Super Bowl team that got progressively worse each year he was here. Granted, a lot of that can be attributed to poor drafting and personnel decisions.

I just think he's too much of a "rah-rah!" guy to make it in the NFL. JMHO.
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I like the guy a lot. He's totally likeable. But if you look at what happened when he was in New England, he inherited a Super Bowl team that got progressively worse each year he was here. Granted, a lot of that can be attributed to poor drafting and personnel decisions.
We have a link to those teams as well....The Texans Associate Director of Pro Scouting Bobby Grier led the way on that. He was the vice president/player personnel for the New England Patriots.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/fr...l.php?PRKey=87
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Pete Carroll got his butt handed to him in the NFL because he took a superbowl team – the 1996 Patriots under Bill Parcells – from first to worst. He had a diminishing record each of his full seasons ...
And most Superbowl teams do what? Ding--Alex, I will take what is go down hill for $1000. Once you get to the top there are two options--stay there or go down hill. Most teams follow the latter path. Combine that with the what GoPats describes as poor personnel decisions and you have a very predictable result.
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Carrol was to the Patriots as Capers is to the Texans. A bad fit. Carrol is a great college coach and probably a pretty good OC in the NFL, but he is not overly good at managing the whole thing. College coaches enjoy coaching because it is more about the love of the game from the player standpoint than convincing men that they need to play well to earn their multi million dollar checks.
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...Carrol is a great college coach and probably a pretty good OC in the NFL...
Pete Carroll's background is on the defensive side of the ball as a coordinator and a secondary coach.
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Your right I meant to hit DC sorry Lucky.
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We have a link to those teams as well....The Texans Associate Director of Pro Scouting Bobby Grier led the way on that. He was the vice president/player personnel for the New England Patriots.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/fr...l.php?PRKey=87
Yep... Bobby Grier's name still comes up from time to time, mostly in reference to the Chris Canty pick in 1996... and not in such a good way, if you catch my drift...
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Pete Carroll was a horrible NFL head coach in his two tours of duty. He was bad in New England but he was just plain pathetic in New York. He is a great college coach, but that pom-pom approach doesn't work on NFL players.
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I have to amdit I am not a Pete Carroll fan, but to say that any coach that wins a championship is overrated is a stretch. People that say that are probably the same that gripe and moan at work because a cohort gets a raise or is always performing very well.

There have been many more coaches that have "underperformed" with a talented team than coaches that have "outperformed" with a talented team. The last time I checked there is only one champion and history tends to be favorable in the annals that document the season.
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Accord to Kirk Bohls, Sports writer for the Austin-American Statesman, Bob McNair want's to try to lure Pete Carroll from USC back to a head coaching gig in the NFL.

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I've read an interview of Carroll from a while back saying he doesn't want to return to the NFL, and I doubt he'd do it. But this is the first published rumor of a head coach replacement that I know of, and it'll be interesting to see if anything develops.

What would you think if Carroll is our head coach come next year?
Oh lord. What a disaster that would be. He's already proven he can't coach in the pros. Why don't we go get Butch Davis while we're at it? Steve Spurrier might be lured back as well.
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We have a link to those teams as well....The Texans Associate Director of Pro Scouting Bobby Grier led the way on that. He was the vice president/player personnel for the New England Patriots.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/fr...l.php?PRKey=87

Grier himself was a running back, and then a running backs coach.
Vinny, maybe we should get an ex-lineman and an ex-lineman coach for Associate Director of Scouting--------LOL!

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If we have this same team next year, it will not matter who the coach is.
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parcells does a pretty good job intimidating pros
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