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Old 10-18-2005   #21
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Okay I am not good with contract lingo and stuff. What does it mean that we picked up Carrs option year of his contract?

Someone on here stated that we should pick Linehart and let Arizona offer Leonard Davis and picks. I mentioned that somewhere else on a thread. I believe that drafting the most coveted player for more than one team allows us to get what we want and not have to wait 4 years for it to develop. Remember year 5 is what we are talking about here.

I believe if we get another high 1st rounder, we need to get Bush if he is still available. Remember some of the reason Johnson gets stopped is because of the lack of an Andre Johnson on the other side. This puts a more than improving Gaffney back in the slot where he can dominate after his career year.

This brings up another scenario. I don't know what the Lions think of Harrington but maybe we could ask for Mike Williams and a first for our pick. We get the wideout we need and use that lower 1st round on the lineman we need.

Lots of stuff to imagine huh?
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I happy to see that Carr knows the team is committed to him. These are tough games, but when we get to select a high pick or two, then it will give me a little hope for the next season.
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What does it mean that we picked up Carrs option year of his contract?
They haven't done anything yet. ESPN was just reporting the same thing McClain has said which is the Texans have every intention of picking up one of the two options. Carr signed a 7 year contract which had milestones which he has met which void the last three years of the contract. The Texans have an option to pay $5.5 mil to get two years back or $8 mil to get three years back. If they don't exercise either by the last game of the season, he is an UFA.

Now we are drafting Bush as a #2 WR?

The Lions would take almost a $8 mil cap hit to trade either Williams--it ain't happening. Rogers, maybe but what you really going to pay for a guy who both craves and is as tough as a saltine cracker?
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Not only should david carr get the bonus, but he should also get an extension. He has shown he can play above average when a far below average offensive line blocks. He has been hit countless times and belive me, he will pay more than 8 million in Medical bills. He will be living in pain every moment of his life when he retires. He deserves it.
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Not only should david carr get the bonus, but he should also get an extension. He has shown he can play above average when a far below average offensive line blocks. He has been hit countless times and belive me, he will pay more than 8 million in Medical bills. He will be living in pain every moment of his life when he retires. He deserves it.
I have no problem with keeping Carr, but the highlight statement is just wrong.
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Not only should david carr get the bonus, but he should also get an extension. He has shown he can play above average when a far below average offensive line blocks. He has been hit countless times and belive me, he will pay more than 8 million in Medical bills. He will be living in pain every moment of his life when he retires. He deserves it.
if you think 170 yards passing is above average (along with his driving killing misfires on simple 3rd down passes). I think his 60 million dollars is quite enough compensation.
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Okay I am not good with contract lingo and stuff. What does it mean that we picked up Carrs option year of his contract?

Someone on here stated that we should pick Linehart and let Arizona offer Leonard Davis and picks.
Leonard Davis sucks.
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I did not mean on sunday, just in general. is there a backup in the NFL you would like to have over carr with this sorry excuse of an O-line?
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Im glad carr is staying
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Just a scenario. I think he is better than anyone we have right now. Then again who isn't?
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I think his 60 million dollars is quite enough compensation.
I couldn't agree more. And if this happens I will just add it to the list of poor decisions to overpay below average players that the Texans have made.

Time to test the 'its the offensive lines fault' and put Carr in a different uniform, IMHO. Banks could put up the numbers that Carr has and he is a backup at best, IMHO.
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Leonard Davis sucks.
He'd make a better RG/RT than LT (All-Rookie when he played RG). Arizona is playing him out of position.
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I couldn't agree more. And if this happens I will just add it to the list of poor decisions to overpay below average players that the Texans have made.
Are you saying the Texans should not exercise the option and just let Carr walk at the end of the season?

FYI to everyone, the $5.5 or $8 mil is not new money on top of the $60 mil it is part of the "up to" $60 mil.
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The only problem with doing what you suggest with drafting Leinart is that we would have contract problems with whomever we picked up. Remember Phillip Rivers? He missed all of training camp, trying to get paid like a #1, when he was a #3. I'm sorry, but we don't have a Drew Brees at left tackle to dominate when Ferguson or whoever we trade for is too far behind to start at the beginning of the season.
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Are you saying the Texans should not exercise the option and just let Carr walk at the end of the season?
yep, especially given the fact that they writing is on the walls saying that the entire team and management level will be gutted and rebuilt completely new.

honestly, what makes anyone think that Carr wants to stay. Getting beat to death, your fault, my fault, no ones fault, isn't a gr8 incentive to stay and get some more beatings.

Next season Carr is going to be looking at the same thing as his rookie season. A team that is starting out fresh and building. What makes anyone think that Carr can do better the second time around? His history? His toughness? His ability to adapt? Sorry but I don't think Carr is Houston's answer at QB. Cut the loses and let him go on somewhere where he might actually do something good.
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yep, especially given the fact that they writing is on the walls saying that the entire team and management level will be gutted and rebuilt completely new.
So what is your suggestion for a QB for the future? Carr walks down the road is certainly an option as it isn't like letting Peyton Manning go, but then what? Banks did ok prior to his hand injury (the last time he saw action) but IMO has looked like crud in both training camps and pre-season since. Ragone?--he is going to be an RFA after this year, so we can lock him up for a year at a reasonable rate but are you going to start him next year? Just curious what you see as the alternative.

As for motivation to stay, I would think having everything else gutted and you remain would be taken as a vote of confidence and odds are very bad we pull anyone in here to be head coach with anything close to as conservative reputation--1st there aren't that many of them and 2nd IMO McNair will make the sound business decision to have a decisive change. That all plays into what Carr wants--more passing, more shots down field, concentration on protecting him.
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He'd make a better RG/RT than LT (All-Rookie when he played RG). Arizona is playing him out of position.
yeah...that isn't fair to Davis even though he does suck right now....but he isn't a LT. He is a classic road grader type.
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You know, it's sad when we are barely past our 5th game and we are already looking into next year.
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You know, it's sad when we are barely past our 5th game and we are already looking into next year.
At least we have the :rockets: , :astros: and the :killerbs:
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