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Old 10-09-2005   #21
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Usually somebody does good on the O-line, or at least descent. I think I've seen every single one of our linemen blow at least one or two plays, and the game isn't over yet! There was this one shot of McKinney and a couple of the others on the sideline looking ticked off. I wish Carr would pull them to the side and jump down their throats. This is ridiculous!!!!
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Did you hear the commentator say that someone needs to help Riley? More like someone needs to replace Riley. I can't wait for D'Brickinshaw Ferguson next year.
If we had a total shut down left tackle we'd only give up about 75 sacks this year. Sweet!
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If Riley is not benched next week I am going to get sick. That was the poorest performance by an offensive lineman I have ever seen. I would fired him on the spot. All you guys that blame Carr obviously have never played football. I am not talking flag football here pansies. I am talking smash mouth, in your face, 300 lb D lineman crushing you play after play. You say his passes are over throws when he does have time? Of course they are! When you spend more time running for your life or simply getting crushed, how else are you supposed to act when you get an extra second or two? Do you expect him to look like a million bucks after that? If you do, you need to stop watching football today. You will never get it! This is the most pathetic attempt at an offensive line I have ever seen. Bye Bye Capers, I hope your bags are packed. Uncle Charlie.....you are right behind Dom, so you better pack too. And while you guys are packing, hand out some pink slips to that O line!
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If Riley is not benched next week I am going to get sick. That was the poorest performance by an offensive lineman I have ever seen. I would fired him on the spot.

This is the most pathetic attempt at an offensive line I have ever seen. Bye Bye Capers, I hope your bags are packed. Uncle Charlie.....you are right behind Dom, so you better pack too. And while you guys are packing, hand out some pink slips to that O line!
Riley has no business being out there any more. Granted, none of the others do, but I see NO reason for Riley to be out there. One more second on first string is a waste.
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In year 2 I thought chester pitts was doing fine at LT way fewer sacks that year. Why did they move him back to guard to begin with( I know he played guard in college) .

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In year 2 I thought chester pitts was doing fine at LT way fewer sacks that year. Why did they move him back to guard to begin with( I know he played guard in college) .

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Thanks Vinny but then the move is even more perlexing Capers gave areason for moving him I just dont remember why

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dont let David play in the Colts game, dwight freeney will kill david, and i dont feel like having our franchise quarterback needing to be dug out of the ground during that game. let an OL play quarterback, let them know how it feels to be getting hit 50 times a game
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dont let David play in the Colts game, dwight freeney will kill david, and i dont feel like having our franchise quarterback needing to be dug out of the ground during that game. let an OL play quarterback, let them know how it feels to be getting hit 50 times a game
If it's Freeny vs. Riley our emergency QB Gaffney better be ready, because I don't think Carr, Banks, Rags is enough depth.
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Riley was terrible, but he wasn't the only one. On Bullock blitz sack, he walked up to the line between McKinney and Weigrt and showed the blitz. Weigrt blocked right and McKinney went left. And he came in untouched. How do you not see this guy.
Maybe the O-line need eye-exams :brickwall
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riley cannot play LT in the pros...it just isn't happening...he's fat and lazy...put in wand capers...and then after that let's move carr around...instead of having him stay in the pocket have more roll out passes...more boot leg...heck carr is better on those passes anyways...i mean this is ridiculous...we're averaging 7 sacks a freakin game...a pop warner football team could sack carr at this rate...call up ross verba and see if we can get him here for a one year deal...but until then start wand he can't do any worse than riley
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Can anyone else see the same things that we see? Some people still want to blame Carr for the situation.
There's plenty of blame to go around. Carr had at least two opportunities to go deep today that he missed on. The receivers had a step (or in Mathis' case, three steps) and he threw the ball out of bounds. Carr has accuracy at times, but today he didn't show it when he had time. He's shell shocked, I'm afraid.

The O-line just sucks. To the people that bash Carr for his pocket presence, I say "What pocket?". There is seldom a pocket worth mentioning, so when it is there, you can't blame Carr for not anticipating it. There is more traffic around Carr every game than there is on the West Loop, even on plays where he doesn't take a sack.

Our defensive pressure is diametrically opposed to what the opponent;s defense does, so as to maintain that yin-yang balance, I suppose. There were times today that I thought McNair was going to pitch a tent back there.

I could go on, but it's just tiring.
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<holding my nose cause this defense stinks. It's a shame that Daunte, Carr, AJ, and Double D has to go through this!

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riley cannot play LT in the pros...it just isn't happening...he's fat and lazy...
I wouldn't say lazy. He's just so out of shape that he can't last more than a quarter or so even at his normal slow speed. He certainly isn't dedicated enough to stay in football shape though, I'll admit that.

So many sacks have been blamed on the running backs, we need to give them some props. On the late touchdown pass the end ran past Riley (again) and all Riley could do was turn around and "pursue". I didn't catch who the RB was, but he stopped the end in his tracks. It was a nice block.
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I can't imagine Capers being here more than a couple more weeks if this continues. And I don't see it changing without a complete coaching staff change. I hate to say that because I think Capers is a good head coach, but he obviously doesn't have the confidence of his players now.
I guess demotion to defensive coordinator is out of the question. lol

Seriously though, I think the team has lost confidence in it's coaching staff.
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I think I know what the offensive line is doing. They are trying to lull the other teams defense into a false sense of security in the first half and in the second half when the defense gets lax they tighten up. The only problem is no one told the dumb*** o-line that a football game is only 4 quarters. Or maybe they just suck badly.
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You know, when I played football, there was a play we had called the swinging door, which is what we should start calling our O line after today's performance...McKinney, Wade, and Riley...My God Riley looked horrible today, looked like he was trying to to the hand jive with defensive lineman...
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Wand is not dressed today. He's on the inactive roster. I think Milford Brown, a guard, suited up instead.

Can someone explain why we have tackles playing this poorly and the guy who started 16 games last year at LT isn't even suited up? He is inactive, NOT hurt.
It's just one more example of the inept coaching staff ignoring the obvious problems with the offense and fixing things that have worked. like switching to shorter drops and timing routes. rendering your most danger offensive weapon useless. It sure hasn't help Carr stay on his feet or complete more passes. He hit Murphy in the face with the ball today for crying out loud. This crap isn't working. And to me, it looked like in just one week, Palmer was calling the shots again. Same plays, different receivers.
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Yah, the sad truth is, that Pendry and Capers got together to make some of their own offensive plays and after 4 days locked in the coaches room, trying to figure out the CREATE-A-PLAY using MADDEN 04. They figured they had enough for the rest of the season after they had created 8 more identical run plays.

I'm not sure what's sadder, that they were STILL using MADDEN 2004, or that they were using a Video Game to begin with.

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dont let David play in the Colts game, dwight freeney will kill david, and i dont feel like having our franchise quarterback needing to be dug out of the ground during that game. let an OL play quarterback, let them know how it feels to be getting hit 50 times a game
the coaches did that too our center who snapped it over our qbs head in practice once. he threw it 50 feet behind him and let the defense crush him.

Back on topic: Riley should never be a starter again. He doesnt deserve to be in the league. He is the worst tackle in the league backup or starter.
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