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Old 10-09-2005   #41
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Watch some film
Pop in the Oregon and ASU tapes. If you know a lick about football you will see the forest through the trees.
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Read this thread over. The big boys with the common sense in the conversation will teach you a few things, I promise.

Answer this.

Do you not see Carr make bad throws, not make the right reads, run out of bounds when he should throw it away (A junior high kid can be taught this)?

If you can't see this then I am wasting my time trying to explain something to someone who will never understand what I am trying to prove.

In Carr's 4 years here, he hasn't made the progress he should. These examples have nothing to do with the line. They have to do with Carr not being the answer for the Houston Texans.

We need a new quaterback. Leinart is great, a winner, and should be a Houston Texan in April when the Texans have the 1st pick in the draft.

This time we can draft a REAL quarterback with the #1 pick in the draft.
Hopefully, our new GM will realize this. Certainly the current one won't want to admit he screwed up so he will stick with Carr Wreck.
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HH, I don't like to see what I'm reading here. Come on Texan fans, yes I called them the Texans and not the txeans, the Texans are in a slump right now but I don't see why y'all need to clean house. A few draft picks have gone awry, but if they draft a couple stud offensive linemen, protect David better, that alone could change the whole direction of the offense. The defense isn't that far away, but you fans CAN NOT quit. Joe Texan, Bull Pen Andy, Hookem Horns and all the rest of my friends down there, DON'T let this cancer continue. I look forward to y'all coming up to Nashville in December, winners or losers, it is all about the love of the game.

Keep y'all heads up, your team is STILL your team, don't even give them away.... L.A. that isn't even cool, that needs a dirty sock stuck in it.
Hi Titan Pop, nice to see you btw. My post was actually a knock on the Astros not the Texans. If Houston fans want to say good things about any of their franchises it should be the Rockets. The Astros tend to win some but NEVER win IT. Besides I hate baseball, so I like to get my jabs in when I can.

As far as the "cancer" goes, that is the organization's doing not the fans. I doubt anyone you know is going to stop being fans of the team. Maybe all of this fan outcry will prod Mr. McNair to get rid of the *****s in charge (mainly Casserly), and put some people in place that will get everyone excited about the team right now.
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I have watched film. Bledsoe does this sometimes too, but he is NOT mobile.
Exactly, he does this sometimes. Leinart does is consistently and doesn't get collapsed upon in the pocket.
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We need a new quaterback. Leinart is great, a winner, and should be a Houston Texan in April when the Texans have the 1st pick in the draft.
Let's go Jason White!!! The funniest thing is, Matt Leinart is closer to Jason White(bum knee, questionable arm strength, very accurate, smart, played on great teams) than he is Johnny Unitas like you make him out to be. Like I said, watch out for Jason White next year. All those small school QBs like Roethlisberger, Leftwich, Pennington, Favre, McNair and Culpepper are garbage. I mean, what did they win in college?
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Pop in the Oregon and ASU tapes. If you know a lick about football you will see the forest through the trees.
I saw him lead teams that were down 13-3 and 21-3 to victory
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I saw him lead teams that were down 13-3 and 21-3 to victory

With his sub- 60% completion percentage and 0 TDs in the ASU game? Oh what a difference a Reggie Bush would make.
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Let's go Jason White!!! The funniest thing is, Matt Leinart is closer to Jason White(bum knee, questionable arm strength, very accurate, smart, played on great teams) than he is Johnny Unitas like you make him out to be. Like I said, watch out for Jason White next year. All those small school QBs like Roethlisberger, Leftwich, Pennington, Favre, McNair and Culpepper are garbage. I mean, what did they win in college?
HAHAHAHAHA

Actually these guys led their schools to some of the best season's in their school's history.

Marshall was a power house before Leftwich and Pennington showed up. Everybody was talking about Alkorn State before McNair got there. Winning it all helps. I.E. Chris Simms. Had the talent but can't win. Culpepper recruited by big schools in Florida but had issues.
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With his sub- 60% completion percentage and 0 TDs in the ASU game? Oh what a difference a Reggie Bush would make.
No picks. A comeback. 1 Yard Run. I'll take that.

59%. Come on Ainge.


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HAHAHAHAHA

Actually these guys led their schools to some of the best season's in their school's history.

I take it you had no idea who Carr and Fresno State were during Carr's senior season. A season which Fresno was 11-3 and was hovering around the Top 10 until Game 7.

In case you missed it.

(2001) Started and played in all 14 games and was perhaps the nation’s best quarterback … had one of the most outstanding statistical seasons for a quarterback ever … became just the sixth quarterback in NCAA history to throw for 4,000 yards and 40 touchdowns. He had 4,839 passing yards and 46 touchdowns, both tops in the nation … exploded in the Silicon Valley Football Classic, completing 35-of-56 passes for a career-high 531 yards and four touchdowns … threw for at least 300 yards in 11 of 14 games, including 10 of the last 11 … finished third in the nation in completions with 343 … received numerous postseason awards, including Football News Offensive Player of the Year, Johnny Unitas Award, Sammy Baugh Award, WAC Offensive Player of the Year and first-team All-WAC … finished fifth in the voting for the Heisman Trophy … set Fresno State single-season records for passing yardage and touchdown passes … is the program’s career completion percentage leader (.626) … had three 400-yard passing games, including a 432-yard, six-touchdown performance in two-and-a-half quarters in the regular season finale against Utah State … was USA Today National Player of the Week after his 340-yard, four-touchdown performance in a victory against Oregon State … had a heroic effort in a victory against Colorado State, leading FS on a length-of-the-field drive with 27 seconds left in the game, which resulted in a game-tying field goal as time expired. The Bulldogs defeated CSU 25-22 … has been tabbed by ESPN’s Mel Kiper as one of the top quarterbacks to be taken in the upcoming NFL Draft … completed passes to 12 different Bulldogs, including 10 for touchdowns.

# Carr's 2001 Awards Johnny Unitas Award
# Football News Offensive Player of the Year
# Sammy Baugh Award
# WAC Offensive Player of the Year
# First-team All-WAC
# CNN/SI Honorable mention All-American
# Sixth player ever with at least 4,000 passing yards/40 TDs
# First in the nation in passing yards (4,308) and TDs (42)
# USA Today National Player of the Week (Oct. 3)
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No picks. A comeback. 1 Yard Run. I'll take that.

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1 yard TD run! Oh man, the mobility! I must have missed that amazing "tuck and push" play!
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I take it you had no idea who Carr and Fresno State were during Carr's senior season. A season which Fresno was 11-3 and was hovering around the Top 10 until Game 7.

In case you missed it.

(2001) Started and played in all 14 games and was perhaps the nation’s best quarterback … had one of the most outstanding statistical seasons for a quarterback ever … became just the sixth quarterback in NCAA history to throw for 4,000 yards and 40 touchdowns. He had 4,839 passing yards and 46 touchdowns, both tops in the nation … exploded in the Silicon Valley Football Classic, completing 35-of-56 passes for a career-high 531 yards and four touchdowns … threw for at least 300 yards in 11 of 14 games, including 10 of the last 11 … finished third in the nation in completions with 343 … received numerous postseason awards, including Football News Offensive Player of the Year, Johnny Unitas Award, Sammy Baugh Award, WAC Offensive Player of the Year and first-team All-WAC … finished fifth in the voting for the Heisman Trophy … set Fresno State single-season records for passing yardage and touchdown passes … is the program’s career completion percentage leader (.626) … had three 400-yard passing games, including a 432-yard, six-touchdown performance in two-and-a-half quarters in the regular season finale against Utah State … was USA Today National Player of the Week after his 340-yard, four-touchdown performance in a victory against Oregon State … had a heroic effort in a victory against Colorado State, leading FS on a length-of-the-field drive with 27 seconds left in the game, which resulted in a game-tying field goal as time expired. The Bulldogs defeated CSU 25-22 … has been tabbed by ESPN’s Mel Kiper as one of the top quarterbacks to be taken in the upcoming NFL Draft … completed passes to 12 different Bulldogs, including 10 for touchdowns.

# Carr's 2001 Awards Johnny Unitas Award
# Football News Offensive Player of the Year
# Sammy Baugh Award
# WAC Offensive Player of the Year
# First-team All-WAC
# CNN/SI Honorable mention All-American
# Sixth player ever with at least 4,000 passing yards/40 TDs
# First in the nation in passing yards (4,308) and TDs (42)
# USA Today National Player of the Week (Oct. 3)

And he is garbage in the NFL.

What a shame


Leinart #1 on Mel Kiper's Big Board by the way
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1 yard TD run! Oh man, the mobility! I must have missed that amazing "tuck and push" play!

But you have nothing to say about the no picks and comeback
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Okay, somebody size up the straight jacket. EVERYBODY was talking about Alcorn (note the c) State BEFORE McNair? Who? When?

Marshall was a POWERHOUSE???? Once again, when?

It's called sarcasm wall.
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And he is garbage in the NFL.

What a shame


Leinart #1 on Mel Kiper's Big Board by the way
Aaron Rodgers ring a bell???
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That explains it. You and Mel on the same page. Next.
He has been with ESPN since the 80's. Must be doing something right. ESPN wouldn't employ an analyst spitting out garbage.
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Stop Blaming David Carr for everything its not his fault he cant play in the NFL it s not his fault he cant stay in the pocket its not his fault he played for fresno state and its not his fault he over throws recievers its not davids fault that he will always be a Fraud but to be honest with everyone im happy david carr is our starter he is only assuring the texans get the first overall pick and with that we get Matt LionHeart
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But you have nothing to say about the no picks and comeback
I'm quite sure even YOU could hand the ball off to Bush and White and mount a comeback. I'm stretching it a bit, but I think it would be possible.
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Hi Titan Pop, nice to see you btw. My post was actually a knock on the Astros not the Texans. If Houston fans want to say good things about any of their franchises it should be the Rockets. The Astros tend to win some but NEVER win IT. Besides I hate baseball, so I like to get my jabs in when I can.

As far as the "cancer" goes, that is the organization's doing not the fans. I doubt anyone you know is going to stop being fans of the team. Maybe all of this fan outcry will prod Mr. McNair to get rid of the *****s in charge (mainly Casserly), and put some people in place that will get everyone excited about the team right now.
Hookem,
I understand that Yvette was down there for the game, did y'all "hook" up?

The G.M. down there has made some bone head trades, or at least that is what they look like now. They had a little article in the local rag, and how the trade has worked out great for the Titans, y'all know we got our T.E. Big Ben Trouuuuupe because of it? He looked very good out there today, and they also commented on many of the others in that deal and how NONE of the ones Houston got out of it are playing. Something not right with that picture.
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He has played so much too. We have really seen what he can do.
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