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Old 10-03-2005   #1
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Who on the Offensive Line, if any, would start on another team in the NFL? I honestly believe that we simply lack talent at several positions. The O line has taken the most heat, so we can start there. I know most of you on this board hate McKinney, but he did start for Indy, correct? He wasn't the Center then, I believe. Another thing, please do not post if you really do not know what you are talking about. Sometimes these threads get so out of wack with ignorance it is not even funny. Remember when your Mom and Dad said to think before you speak? In this case, please think before you type.
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Todd Wade is the only one that would be a reasonable starter.
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Todd Wade is the only one that would be a reasonable starter.
it was Todd Wade who let his man by that casued that ill fated, horrible fumble call & Reily is almost a carbon copy when faced with any type of outside speed pass rush or actual athletic move ( the David Pollack spin to the inside then back to the outside comes to mind). the only OL worth his salary is Pitts. David Carr needs help across the line both tackles, a guard & center.
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Todd Wade is the only one that would be a reasonable starter.
Are you kidding. According to the Texans, we have one of the best lines in the league. We don't need to waste early draft picks on something silly like upgrading the line. Instead, we can use those picks on stellar players like:

1. Tony Hollings (2nd )
2. Jason Babin (2nd, 3rd, 4th)
3. Bennie Joppru (2nd)

I'm not listening to the Texans hype machine anymore!

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wade & pitts.
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Ok McKinney, Wade, and Weigert could, have, and would start for other teams. McKinney is much better at LG, Weigert is also a quality LG. Wade is a prototype RT. Riley is a RG or mauler at best. Pitts has the feet to play LT, but he tends to make to many mistakes in hand placement and tends to have lulls in his concentration as witnessed by his numerous False starts. Our best line right now would be
Pitts, Weigert, McKinney, Riley, Wade. This particular line would maximize the potential of our average players (Pitts, Riley) by placing them in positions they are better suited for. It would also add approximately 1 extra second to protection. not to mention serious cutback lanes for our backs.
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i'm with ya coach. a lot of the pure talent isnt there, but more than many other things we're not using the talent where they're best suited. something i'm curious on though is if weigert could start at center and put wand back at LT (benching mckinney). wand-pitts-weigert-riley-wade. it certainly couldnt be any worse.
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Scooter you raise a good point, but Weigert would not be a good C. His upper body stiffness would cause him to be bullrushed by interior lineman. Wand is also better suited at RT. It is just ashame we have so much money tied up in Wade that we cannot make that switch. Eventhough if Wade could play RG we might be on to something. It would place Pitts at Lt and Wand at RT which would give us some athleticism on the edges and size in the middle. Plus with Carr able to see the rush coming from Wand's side Wand will look tons better.
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Has anyone heard anything about the center we drafted from Az. St., I think his name was Hodgkins? Is he a prospect?

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He is third on the depth chart at the C posistion and also the starter for the practice team. It seems that he has enough talent to play in this league, but does not read defenses very well. He might be better suited at G.
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Hey Morknolle i took over this account so holla at ya boy Da Enterprise.
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I think you are referring to Drew Hodgdon, and I don't see him starting for us this year.
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Has anyone heard anything about the center we drafted from Az. St., I think his name was Hodgkins? Is he a prospect?

Why would you ask such a foolish question. Remember, McKinney is the star and besides who could coach the guy anyway. Oh, that's right we promoted his coach to OC. Oh, well, guess we will have to wait another year. Its really pathetic when you look at what is going on. We have a number of young players who have skills, but they are simply not being developed. If all Mathis can do after the minicamps and TC is run streak routes, something is terribly wrong. That you man has speed and hands. He has a lot of undevelped talent, but no coaching.
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The only way I would see any of them starting for a good team, would be that the entire rest of the line was so good, it would off-set their glaring mediocrity and overall lack of being able to dominate anyone.
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The only way I would see any of them starting for a good team, would be that the entire rest of the line was so good, it would off-set their glaring mediocrity and overall lack of being able to dominate anyone.

There is a malaise in our O-line that will keep them from moving to other teams. Can anyone provide Riley's/Wade's/Weigert's history? I would love to know where they came from and why they are here.
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The poor drafting and passing of OL the last 4 yrs got you where you are............And Tood Wade is the most overpaid OL in the league..........Even the fins did not want him and their OL is as bad as yours..................Casserly will pay with his job this offseason.
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There is a malaise in our O-line that will keep them from moving to other teams. Can anyone provide Riley's/Wade's/Weigert's history? I would love to know where they came from and why they are here.
Riley was drafted by KC i think and played in NO and was run out of town, Wade was with the Fins and shown the door , and Weigert was in Jax and also not resigned.................
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Wade was with the Fins and shown the door
Ummm, no. Wade tested the free agent market and was one of the more highly ranked OLmen available that off-season and was sought after by a number of teams. He has not played in Houston as well as he did in Miami however.
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He has not played in Houston as well as he did in Miami however.

So.........coaching?
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ummmmm no ........the fins could not believe what you paid for this back up..................go to finheaven.com and ask them............you have made horrendous mistakes in personel.......wade, RSmith, Babin PBuch, Wand, Joppru, Hollings, Gaffney, Coleman etc..............that is the cause of regression in Texas.............and the real culprit this yr is that you got rid of two good vets on D who kept you in alot of games while Carr flubbed his way...............and poor AJ is just wasting away in Houston................
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