Backups lead Defense to years best performance - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

nunusguy · 10-03-2005

"Cornerback Demarcus Faggins, outside linebacker Shantee Orr and defensive end Travis Johnson joined the starting lineup and made contributions to an improved performance."
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3379345
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I still don't have any problem with the TJ pick this year (no matter how upset some may be on passing on DJ from Texas or anybody else), but the decisions
involving last years Draft/Babin and in FA with PB this year cost us 4 first day draft picks. Those decisions were killers. That's two 2s and two 3s. With those picks we could have got a real TE, another WR with speed and a couple of offensive lineman. Count 'em again, that's 4 first day picks, or 2/3rds of two years worth of first day picks in the college draft.

**Vinny** · 10-03-2005

TJ and Orr had two tackles combined and I wasn't real impressed with TJ working against a journeyman who was handling him without a double team. This was a better effort from the defense but those two guys weren't the reason.

F-minus67 · 10-03-2005

I thought that Willie Anderson played against TJ on Sunday? And Last time I checked he had been to the pro bowl a couple times.

**PapaL** · 10-03-2005

Willie Anderson has been blocking in the NFL since TJ was in middle school. Not sure if they matched up, just an FYI.

**Vinny** · 10-03-2005

If you have the game recorded you will see TJ and Bobbie Williams one-on-one, and he is handling him easily.

Reddevil63 · 10-03-2005

Thats been a commom theme for 3 seasons, I dont get it.

nunusguy · 10-03-2005

"Lineman holds his own
Texans defensive end Travis Johnson, the No. 1 pick, made his first start in place of the injured Gary Walker.

"I didn't make any big plays, but nobody took advantage of me, either," Johnson said.

Right tackle Willie Anderson tried to exploit Johnson.

"I was going against a Pro Bowl tackle, and he called me out," Johnson said. "He said in the newspaper they were going to run at me the whole game, but I guess that wasn't the right idea."

The Bengals rushed for 98 yards and a 3.9 average per carry. Johnson was impressed with Anderson's size.

"He's so massive," he said. "He's all of 370, and I don't care what their program says (6-5, 340)."
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3379363

**Vinny** · 10-03-2005

The tackle is out on a linebacker (end in down position) in most passing downs and we were in a 4 man look...that put TJ inside on Bobbie Williams. I'm watching it now. In 3 man fronts TJ is on the T.

johnboy · 10-03-2005

Two tackles between the four of them,Anderson. Peek Orr &TJ and the Texans said that they believed the new people made contributions to an improved performance (amazing)

**Vinny** · 10-03-2005

Chester Pitts had more tackles (one) than Peek (although Peek had 3 assists).

wags · 10-03-2005

The title of this thread should be Dunta leads defense to best performance. Nobody else really stood out to me in terms of making plays. I am pretty amazed that P-Buc actually tackled somebody. Who saw this coming?

The thing I'm disturbed about is our linebackers. Peek is not disciplined at all. The personal foul, the offsides, and he also lost contain on the reverse. Wong and Greenwood seem to get pushed around too much and Greenwood can't fill a cutback lane. The lack of playmaking ability is disturbing from our linebackers. Peek drops an INT against the Bills and it looked like Greenwood could have had one in the first series this game.

Wasn't Wong more effective at OLB last year?

Did anyone else see Greenwood get tossed like a rag doll by Verron Haynes in the Steelers game? That's the worst serving I've ever seen.

**Kaiser Toro** · 10-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by wags

The title of this thread should be Dunta leads defense to best performance. Nobody else really stood out to me in terms of making plays. I am pretty amazed that P-Buc actually tackled somebody. Who saw this coming?

The thing I'm disturbed about is our linebackers. Peek is not disciplined at all. The personal foul, the offsides, and he also lost contain on the reverse. Wong and Greenwood seem to get pushed around too much and Greenwood can't fill a cutback lane. The lack of playmaking ability is disturbing from our linebackers. Peek drops an INT against the Bills and it looked like Greenwood could have had one in the first series this game.

Wasn't Wong more effective at OLB last year?

Did anyone else see Greenwood get tossed like a rag doll by Verron Haynes in the Steelers game? That's the worst serving I've ever seen.

Before this last year I was on the Casserly bandwagon, but, due to the first three games of the season, Greenwood is my poster child on why Cass needs to go. He does get thrown around and runs right into this his own defenders.

nunusguy · 10-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by wags

The title of this thread should be Dunta leads defense to best performance. Nobody else really stood out to me in terms of making plays. I am pretty amazed that P-Buc actually tackled somebody. Who saw this coming?

While I'm a huge fan of D-Robs, CC and Wong each actually had more tackles than him according to official stats, but D-Rob did again have his usual very good game.
And to your complaint about the title of the thread, perhaps I took some editorial liberties with that, but it was my thread so got to title it, I'm sure
you do the same with yours. A more accurate title might be "Backups join
Defensive starters for years best performance". And it was just that, the Ds
best effort to date this year, inferring we didn't miss Babin, PB, and Walker one bit.

10-03-2005	#1
nunusguy Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 8,991 Rep Power: 184	Backups lead Defense to years best performance "Cornerback Demarcus Faggins, outside linebacker Shantee Orr and defensive end Travis Johnson joined the starting lineup and made contributions to an improved performance." http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3379345 ************************************************ *** I still don't have any problem with the TJ pick this year (no matter how upset some may be on passing on DJ from Texas or anybody else), but the decisions involving last years Draft/Babin and in FA with PB this year cost us 4 first day draft picks. Those decisions were killers. That's two 2s and two 3s. With those picks we could have got a real TE, another WR with speed and a couple of offensive lineman. Count 'em again, that's 4 first day picks, or 2/3rds of two years worth of first day picks in the college draft.

10-03-2005	#2
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	TJ and Orr had two tackles combined and I wasn't real impressed with TJ working against a journeyman who was handling him without a double team. This was a better effort from the defense but those two guys weren't the reason. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

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F-minus67 Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Middletown,CT Age: 26 Posts: 1,070 Rep Power: 11	I thought that Willie Anderson played against TJ on Sunday? And Last time I checked he had been to the pro bowl a couple times. __________________ "Democracy is not for the people." - Judge Dredd

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PapaL Loose Screw Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 8,764 Rep Power: 17440	Willie Anderson has been blocking in the NFL since TJ was in middle school. Not sure if they matched up, just an FYI. __________________ Tried and true, I'm rep'in Texan (Steel) Blue.

10-03-2005	#5
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	If you have the game recorded you will see TJ and Bobbie Williams one-on-one, and he is handling him easily. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

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Reddevil63 Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arlington Age: 28 Posts: 1,253 Rep Power: 12	Thats been a commom theme for 3 seasons, I dont get it. __________________ Keep Kevin Kolb in Houston in '07

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johnboy Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Age: 67 Posts: 56 Rep Power: 9	Two tackles between the four of them,Anderson. Peek Orr &TJ and the Texans said that they believed the new people made contributions to an improved performance (amazing)

10-03-2005	#11
wags Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: TX and FL Age: 35 Posts: 1,601 Rep Power: 22	The title of this thread should be Dunta leads defense to best performance. Nobody else really stood out to me in terms of making plays. I am pretty amazed that P-Buc actually tackled somebody. Who saw this coming? The thing I'm disturbed about is our linebackers. Peek is not disciplined at all. The personal foul, the offsides, and he also lost contain on the reverse. Wong and Greenwood seem to get pushed around too much and Greenwood can't fill a cutback lane. The lack of playmaking ability is disturbing from our linebackers. Peek drops an INT against the Bills and it looked like Greenwood could have had one in the first series this game. Wasn't Wong more effective at OLB last year? Did anyone else see Greenwood get tossed like a rag doll by Verron Haynes in the Steelers game? That's the worst serving I've ever seen. __________________ A good argument is always spoiled by someone who knows what they're talking about

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