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Old 09-03-2004   #21
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7-9, 8-8, or 9-7

We start two rookies on defense and our offense needs to get around the middle of the pack instead of worst in the league before we can start talking about playoffs around here. Perhaps it will happen this year but "expecting" one of the worst producing offenses to all of a sudden become a dominant unit in one year is a long road to travel in a tough league. Every team in the NFL has talent. We just need our young guys to continue to grow while we keep adding depth.
Seems like a good time to revisit all our regular season record predicitions without starting a new thread. Based upon the continued improvement of the team but that there is still a ways to go I'm revising my expectations down a little if they do better it would not be unexpected but still viewed as a surprise, like a Christmas bonus. Therefore I'm placing my vote based on pre-season to date-

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I don't see a playoff run. David Carr still is going to throw too many picks, hes gonna get better no doubt, but we still need another year or two. 10, 11 wins? Thats some crazy **** lol, that would be lucky, like the Cowboys were last year.
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How much money yall spend on a Physic hotline to get all them answers. Even with or talent noone can truly tell how many games we'll win. I mean come on its not like the early 90's where there was ONE dominant team ! Theres so much talent in the NFL that its pretty hard to determine who'll win until the final second of the game, But i still like all the positives yall are giving the texans. And believe me i would like to see them win 10, so i guess we'll find out next sunday what were in stor for this season. Well i just rolled the 8 ball and it said 10 wins (most likely) ???
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Our family makes their predictions every year. The first season, I picked it at 4-12. I chose 6-10 last year, so I was one off, but so far, not bad.

This season - I choose 8-8. That's been my prediction for a couple of months, and I'm sticking with it.
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San Diego-Win. We continue our opening day win streak.
Detroit-Win. We get the back to back win monkey off our backs right away.
Kansas City-Loss. Too much for us and a very tough place to play.
Oakland-Win. We send em home with some geritol.
Minnesota-Loss. We can't cover Randy Moss with the no touch rule.
Tennessee-Loss. They win on their turf.
Jacksonville-Win. We are the better of the 2 5-11 teams in the south.
Denver-Loss. Close but not enough in the end.
Indianapolis-Loss. We lose only because they are at home.
Green Bay-Win. We show the nation we are a team to be reckoned with.
Tennessee-Loss. They sweep us. Sorry.
New York Jets-Loss. Chad Pennington duels with David Carr.
Indianapolis-Win. We knock Peyton out of the game.
Chicago-Win. We pull off a nail biter in the snow.
Jacksonville-Loss. We have a let down after such an emotional high.
Cleveland-Win. Blowout. We want that 8-8 record bad.

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The Texans are in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL. The Colts, Titans, and Jags have some outstanding players on their rosters. Many have stated that the Texans must stay healthy and avoid injuries to compete. That’s true. But what I do like about this division is that these other teams have the same problems regarding defensive depth that the Texans have. Take a look at the backup Colt DBs, Titan LB reserves, or the 2nd team Jag line. Heck, the Jags need to be concerned about who they’ll start at DE.

And I like the depth the Texans now have on offense. Todd Washington & Marcus Spears are as solid veteran reserve O-linemen as any team has. A far cry from what the team had 2 years ago. How can you not be excited about the depth the Texans have at WR? I don’t know how many snaps each guy will get, but I’ll bet that Derik Armstrong gets his share this season. I love the attitude that Mark Bruener brings to this unit. I didn’t realize he had this much game left and he’s the perfect compliment to Miller at TE (and he takes some of the sting out of the Joppru injury). Tony Hollings has made significant progress at RB over the course of the preseason. He can catch the ball out of the backfield, pick up the blitz, and most importantly, hold on to the ball. Hollings is looking like a NFL back and combined with the improved play of Jonathan Wells (Really?) the Texans can survive a week or 2 without DD.

Tony Banks has had a rough preseason. So what? He played so poorly in the Dallas camp a few years ago, they cut him and went with a dope smoking rookie at starting QB. That wasn’t the end of Banks career and he’ll bounce back from these performances as well. Chris Palmer can put in a game plan where Tony can be successful. I’ll still take Banks over half the reserve QBs in this league.

Every year there are a couple of teams that rise up from the NFL’s downtrodden to make the playoffs. Why not the Texans? They’ve got the up & coming star triplets in Carr-Davis-Johnson. They have the defensive genius head coach who’s taken a new team to the playoffs a year ahead of schedule. They have one of the best homefield advantages in the NFL. I see the Texans at 7-6 heading into the Windy City on 12/19. If the Texans can sweep the final 3 games against the Bears, Jags, & Browns, I think they’re playoff bound. I think this offense will be among the best by the end of the season, and guys like Walker, Payne, and Glenn will do what it takes to stay on the field.

Houston Texans 10-6, 6th seed in the AFC playoffs.
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... Houston Texans 10-6, 6th seed in the AFC playoffs.
Good writeup.

I previously predicted 10-6 (with 1 playoff win) and I still feel good about that prediction. I would add that there are probably 20-22 teams that can legitimately predict being one of the 12 teams to make the playoffs. Some of those 22-24 teams will have too many injuries to overcome (like the Texans last year) and some will win/lose a game because of a blown referee call (like the Ravens being handed a game on a blown clock call). A Peyton Mannings, or Steve McNair could be injured week 1. It's impossible to know which teams will be affected and therefore which of the 20-22 teams will actually be 1 of the 12 playoff teams. In other years, the Texans weren't legitimately one of the 22 potential playoff teams.

I believe the Texans will go 3-3 in division and lose in Kansas City and Denver. They will also lose 1 other game.
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9-7... No Playoffs.
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Hopefully good enuf to make in the playoffs if anything the wild card
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considering i originally posted this thread about 2 months ago, its nice to see how many responses there have been. I still stick with my prediction of 8-8 or 9-7.
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In our division we will sweep the Titans, Split with the Jags and get swept by the Colts.
We will beat the Bolts, Lions, Raiders, Jets, and even drive the Vikings to consider relocation to Texas (What did they build the Alamodome for anyway?).
The Broncos, Chiefs, Packers and Bears (Soldier Field will be COLD and Dave Carr is from Bakersfield) will make us look like the practice squad.
The Browns will be a toss up and whichever non playoff team wants it bad enough will get it.
I'm sorry, did you say beat the Lions in Detroit and lose to the Bears? And unsure about the Browns? Ummm...The Lions are the best of those 3 teams. Carr will have a tough day against one of the best secondaries in the league (Bly, Bryant, Marion), although DD should have a big game.
Can the Texans secondary handle a 4 WR set of Rogers, Williams, Streets, and Hakim? Not being a jerk, just curious. Not to mention KJ and Pinner to keep the LB's honest.

I'm not saying who will win, it could go either way.

But as for the topic of the thread, I see Houston going somewhere between 7 - 9 and 9 - 7, but it's a pretty tough schedule so it's hard to say.

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10-6 with a trip to the playoffs. Hopefully they will do better than 10-6. Anything less than the playoffs will be a bad season.
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I'll say 9 wins, but they will miss out on the Wild Card because of a tiebreaker of some sort. Next year they'll just win the division to save the trouble.
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I don't know guys. I have a really good feeling about this season. I've got that "Great things are possible" feeling and I think I'm going to have to say they win 10 games and with help get a playoff game. If they don't get the help then they stay home.

It's blatantly optimistic homer up the wazoo but I think this is the year we start paying back some of these teams that have been giving us lumps for two seasons. This is the year the project starts paying off. We're looking at the first season of a nice long run IMO. There will be better seasons after this one but this is going to go down as the year it started getting good.
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I would be disappointed if we didn't post a 9-7 record in 2004, I could go game by game but suffice to say this.


We played the eventual Super Bowl Champions down to 15 seconds in overtime, we BEAT the NFC Champion.


We took leads into the 4th quarter against the 2 best teams in our division and because of injuries to Defense we lost those games.




We have played some of best teams in AFC and NFC and held our own, we will win a lot of games and if injuries do not hamper us we could be playing for a playoff berth
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throughout their brief history ive watched a team that refused to lay down and die despite not having a chance in numerous games...last year ,and in the preseason, ive seen fleeting glimpses of an offense that can be special. carr is the real deal. davis is a superstar waiting to happen. by mid-season this crew will be performing efficiently ,and for the first time this year i expect to see the texans blowout at least 1 team.

but heres the kicker on offense...davis. much like the jags based their success on the health of fred taylor a few years ago...the texans will be dependent upon davis. when hes out of the offense due to injury there is a palitable difference---and every defense we play knows it. hollings will be solid and have the occasional great play ,but he's no substitute for how good our offense can be with davis on the field.

i expect our offense to make a signifigant leap in the overall standings this year.

nonetheless our offense does have questions to answer:

-davis (durability)
-wand
-pitts
-can banks duplicate his steady performance last year if called upon to do so?
-and the ever present question of depth wich would appear more signifigant a problem for the defense then the offense.

as for the defense, we have a lot more questions to answer here.

-payne
-walker
-coleman
-robinson
-babin
-depth
-and call me paranoid ,but im starting to wonder how come we NEVER seem to get consistent pressure on the opposing qb. (yeah i know their are a number of legit reasons)...but the worry i have is maybe teams have caught up with some of capers schemes. i know its premature to think that considering the circumstances of last season...but...its a thought i have.

i think the defense will make a mild improvment. robinson will be burned more then a few times this year ,but i think overall we will be poised to have a top 15 type defense in 2005. i'm just not buying it this year. to many players have something to prove ,and yes, i think one of our d-linemen will go down early and miss 3-5 games.

i think this will be the titans last playoff year.
indy's offseason was unimpressive and their defense is still suspect.
the jags will be our biggest competition for the playoffs in 2 years...

i see us splitting the division 3-3. with a solid swan song to end the year...

so whats my prediction?

we have the talent to make the playoffs ,but we dont have the talent to TAKE a playoff spot. if we make it to the post season it will be due to some outside circumstance such as an injury to a key player(s) in our division. or perhaps, a miracle season of our own with no signifigant injuries...(highly doubtfull)



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I refuse to look at this team through Steel Blue Glasses, but I really beleive we will remain on of the healthier teams in the league, thus making a slight push for the playoffs. The Texans will remind a lot of people of the Bengals of 2003-2004, but will look to have a brighter future. The Texans go 8-8, with upset wins over the Packers, Colts, and finally beat the Titans! If the cards fall the right way, the Texans can squeek out a 9-7 record and wild card birth!
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We should be able to do that if we stay healthy specially the Defensive line.
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San Diego-Win. We continue our opening day win streak.
Detroit-Win. We get the back to back win monkey off our backs right away.
Kansas City-Loss. Too much for us and a very tough place to play.
Oakland-Win. We send em home with some geritol.
Minnesota-Loss. We can't cover Randy Moss with the no touch rule.
Tennessee-Loss. They win on their turf.
Jacksonville-Win. We are the better of the 2 5-11 teams in the south.
Denver-Loss. Close but not enough in the end.
Indianapolis-Loss. We lose only because they are at home.
Green Bay-Win. We show the nation we are a team to be reckoned with.
Tennessee-Loss. They sweep us. Sorry.
New York Jets-Loss. Chad Pennington duels with David Carr.
Indianapolis-Win. We knock Peyton out of the game.
Chicago-Win. We pull off a nail biter in the snow.
Jacksonville-Loss. We have a let down after such an emotional high.
Cleveland-Win. Blowout. We want that 8-8 record bad.

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I think that is pretty close to correct but I would switch Green Bay and 2nd Tennessee to get my 8-8.
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I agree Vinny, man I hope some of you do not trip over your feet with all the stars in your eyes. Hey I am hopeful but think 7 & 9 would be outstanding. In 3-4 defense, Payne & Walker are going to get beat up and neither are 100% yet anyway. We have seen no rush from line or backers and Dunte will get lit up like like a cheap stogie cause he will be all alone most of the time. Coleman will adjust in time & hopefully will get to some of the receivers that Robinson misreads. Brown will be close to the line to help backers stop run. I keep hearing there were 2 or 3 losses that could have been wins last season. Well 2 or 3 wins could have been losses. I hope you guys are right & I am wrong. Remember, this was supposed to be a building year with playoffs in 4th year.
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