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Old 09-27-2005   #21
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This guy needs to go make a scrap book with his girl friends, with all the pictures he has.

Matt Leihnart could be your first page.

Followed by Vincent Young and Peter Boulware.

What insite. you really know your stuff. your scrapbook just has one picture of a guy who you can't even tell who he is.

When Matt Leihnart is one of the best qbs by his second season, come talk to me.

Since you hate pictures so much, never watch the tv again. It has moving pictures and might really confuse you.
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I hope your not trying to say that with sharper and boulware we would be a superbowl contender. Also by the time that the rest of our team was superbowl caliber sharper and boulware would be retired or at least close to it.

No, obviously I know those two won't make a super bowl team. But it's a start to building one. Both our offense and defense need some work. You have to start building them at some point.
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No, obviously I know those two won't make a super bowl team. But it's a start to building one. Both our offense and defense need some work. You have to start building them at some point.
I'm just saying if you start building a team with 30 year olds their going to be at least 33 by the time your team is a contender. Then they will either be 34,35 or retired by the time your team is a serious superbowl contender.
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But last year we were talking about this being a playoff team. Two years ago they lost to the Super Bowl Champ in overtime. This team was progressing and now they are regressing.
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But last year we were talking about this being a playoff team. Two years ago they lost to the Super Bowl Champ in overtime. This team was progressing and now they are regressing.
I dont think they are regressing I think they did regress by loosing some of their veterans but there not still getting worse. The problem is we didnt replace the veterans with good young players we replaced them with average young players. Yes this delayed our team but they should be better in the long run and there is a better chance of building a dynasty threw young players.
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I dont think they are regressing I think they did regress by loosing some of their veterans but there not still getting worse. The problem is we didnt replace the veterans with good young players we replaced them with average young players. Yes this delayed our team but they should be better in the long run and there is a better chance of building a dynasty threw young players.





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Im just saying their not getting worse by the day.
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Interesting...

If we signed Boulware doesn't he naturally play ROLB (Peek's position)? When he was in the 3-4 scheme? I think he was supposed to transition to another spot after Terrell Suggs spent a year learning the 3-4 ROLB position... However, Boulware went down in 04 suggs started and suggs just basically took the position from Boulware.

But hey he is being subbed in at LOLB in their 4-3 alternating with Adalius Thomas who is the starter... We looked at him but didnt like what we saw.. as did the raiders and chiefs..

Maybe its just me but I don't think we are missing much except the possibility that we spent all this money on Boulware only to see Babin start because Boulware's knee couldnt hold up to fulltime action. I would have liked to see us keep Sharper. However I think we are ok without Boulware.
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do you have to post pictures in every post? i like to read message boards not look at a picture book.

babin will be back in the lineup. he is too good against the run to keep him out.
Unfortunately, We are in the fifth grade and need pictures to understand. Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nap Time!
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If you want to make an argument about Babin, at least stay in the same draft and don't make cases about older players that should have been signed.

Oklahoma LB Teddy Lehman was on the board when the Texans grabbed Babin. Lehman went a few picks later to Detroit.

I liked Lehman in college and he was the leader on that OU defense. I was hoping the Texans would grab him and was initially disappointed when they took Babin over him. Admittedly, I knew nothing to very little about Babin so I figured the Texans knew what they were doing. One area of concern I did have was that he was going to be a project, going from DE to LB.

The Lions have been real high on Lehman and as a pro, so far Lehman is looking like the better of the 2.

As far as stats go, last year Babin had 51 tackles and 12 assist. Lehman had 75 tackles and 27 assist. Of course there are other intangibles besides stats, and after seeing Babin for a year, I think Lehman brings more of those to the table such as leadership ability and being smarter on the field.

But what do I know, I am just simple fan with an opinion.

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Four or Five years is not forever.
It hasn't taken Dallas nearly that long under Parcells to turn themselves into a playoff contender. In 4 years Casserly has us in the running for one of the worst teams in the league.
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You as a coach or GM can't predict what a player will do in the future. All you have to go by is what they did in the past (and hope they produce for you) and Babin looked pretty damn good on paper with Western Michigan, made All American, set school records in sacks, etc.


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College: Western Michigan
Height: 6-2
Weight: 260
Hometown: Paw Paw, Mich.

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Outstanding pass rusher and two-time All-American who is one of the fastest down linemen in the game of football The former high school state wrestling champion also excels on special teams, using his excellent leaping ability to block three punts during his career The Defensive Hard Hat Award winner also saw time on offense the last two years, blocking in the Power-I formation Started 25 of 47 games for the Broncos, recording 299 tackles (202 solos) with 38 sacks for minus-188 yards, 75 stops for losses of 283 yards, 43 quarterback pressures, eight forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries, two pass deflections and three receptions for 35 yards (11.7 avg) His 38 sacks topped the old school career-record of 34 by Joel Smeenge (1986-89) and his 75 stops behind the line of scrimmage broke Smeenge's previous WMU record of 66.
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Positives: Has good body structure with a thick chest, broad shoulders and developing thighs and calves Leader by example who needs to be accounted for by the opponent Plays with pain, practices hard and has outstanding character off the field Has good short-area quickness and acceleration, quickly locating the ball Shows above-average lateral agility and good effort in his pursuit to the ball Effective wrap-up tackler who stays low in his pads and drives hard with his legs to rock the ball carriers back Very effective edge rusher who uses his hands well to grab and maintain position Has good flexibility and knee bend to get down the line of scrimmage Has the sudden burst to close on the quarterback and inside run plays.
Negatives: Timed speed is deceptive, as the player shed 20 pounds before his workout and generally plays in the 280-pound range Not as explosive when he's at his playing weight Shows strength against the run, but does not split the double team or neutralize blockers when engaging in head-up action Weight-room strength does not translate to the football field (would rather elude than take on the blocker) Uses his hands well, but is not a hit-and-shed type Best pass rushing off the edge, as he would rather not take on and defeat the offensive tackle or tight end (tries to throw rather than use shed moves to disengage).

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Timed at 4.69 in the 40-yard dash 460-pound bench press 540-pound squat 383-pound power clean 405-pound incline press 34-inch vertical jump 9-foot-8 broad jump 4.03 in the 20-yard shuttle 33 1/8-inch arm length 9 7/8-inch hands Right-handed.
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Attended Paw Paw (Mich.) High, playing football for coach Dave Warmack Named All-Kalamazoo Valley Association first-team choice Missed most of the 1998 season after breaking his leg in the season opener Two-time team Defensive MVP State wrestling champion.
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It hasn't taken Dallas nearly that long under Parcells to turn themselves into a playoff contender. In 4 years Casserly has us in the running for one of the worst teams in the league.
Dallas had a playoff team the year that parcels took over. There record was 10-6. Can you guess what the Texans record was when Capers took over. Im not trying to make excusses for capers or casserly. I want to see them outta here just like everybody else. The Cowboys didnt have to build from scratch when Parcells took over. Most of his top defensive players were already there Roy Williams, Dat Nguyen, Laroi Glover, Greg Ellis, Dexter Coakly, and Terrance Newman in the 2003 draft the year parcells tooke over.
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Dallas had a playoff team the year that parcels took over. There record was 10-6. Can you guess what the Texans record was when Capers took over. Im not trying to make excusses for capers or casserly. I want to see them outta here just like everybody else. The Cowboys didnt have to build from scratch when Parcells took over. Most of his top defensive players were already there Roy Williams, Dat Nguyen, Laroi Glover, Greg Ellis, Dexter Coakly, and Terrance Newman in the 2003 draft the year parcells tooke over.
Parcels is a no nonsense coach, who doesn't take **** from anyone. His philosophy is: Put out or get out! He is definitely a HOF Coach.

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Parcels is a no nonsense coach, who doesn't take **** from anyone. His philosophy is: Put out or get out! He is definitely a HOF Coach.

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Trust me I agree I would trade Capers for Parcells any day.
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What insite. you really know your stuff. your scrapbook just has one picture of a guy who you can't even tell who he is.

When Matt Leihnart is one of the best qbs by his second season, come talk to me.

Since you hate pictures so much, never watch the tv again. It has moving pictures and might really confuse you.
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So, how exactly do you want to spell Leihnart... Leinart.. lamer?

Horrible posts, horrible picture-book. Go scream at old ladies if you want the attention so bad...
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So, how exactly do you want to spell Leihnart... Leinart.. lamer?

Horrible posts, horrible picture-book. Go scream at old ladies if you want the attention so bad...
You have nothing interesting to say.

Since when were so many people against pictures?

You better not own a camera
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If you want to make an argument about Babin, at least stay in the same draft and don't make cases about older players that should have been signed.

Unfortunately you are right. New Rule according to this guy: From now on, we can't talk about replacing any of our guys with free agents, only guys who were available in the draft of the guy we want to replace.

We can't talk about bringing in a new quaterback, you can only talk about guys we could have picked instead of Carr like Harrington.
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For those of you who are Ravens Linebacker Impaired. They have a linebacker factor over there. That's Peter Bowlware making a play on the team we are playing this week.
This thread is a non-starter. Boulware himself recognized his 3-4 OLB days were over as a full time starter and admitted he would need to play at 4-3 DE or as a situational OLB.

PS--while Babin is on the bench, the Texans have evidently announced he will come in on 3rd downs against the Bengals according to 610 am.
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I heard on 610am this morning that Babin will start coming in on 3rd down in pass rushing situations. He will be our pass rushing specialist.


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