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Honoring Earl 34 · 09-25-2005

Could Carr have been as good as Eli should be ?

Honch Delgado · 09-25-2005

Funny how just a few months ago threads were being started about Carr being better than Mike Vick. Now it's come down to this. I'll say this, Baby Manning has better awareness and field vision than Carr. Until Carr can figure out how to read a D, he'll be a subpar backup.

JaguarsFan1 · 09-25-2005

Carr!

**Double Barrel** · 09-25-2005

I'd pick Carr. I'm not that impressed with Manning at this point.

Honch Delgado · 09-25-2005

Manning's impressed me so far tonight during the SD game. Steps into the pocket, avoids pressure, remains poised at San Diego.

**Kaiser Toro** · 09-25-2005

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Originally Posted by zztop

I would too if I wasn't running for my life. Good call. Eli rocks!

The key to the statement was that he shows poise under pressure, at least for this game.

**beerlover** · 09-25-2005

I'm so tired of this BS. Carr was the Texans best option at the time period. anything else is pure hindsight

LBC_Justin · 09-25-2005

I haven't watched Eli play very much but I have been watching the game tonight. He looked ok at times but he made a few HUGE mistakes and got lucky as hell that neither one came back to bite him.

1. Threw a pass to Plaxico and it should have been intercepted for a touchdown but the CB dropped it.
2. Threw a pass that was intercepted for a touchdown but it got called back on a tick tack penalty.

I would take Carr at this points. Eli would get eaten alive if he played on the Texans.

CajunTexan · 09-25-2005

Eli looks more comfortable this year than last, but look at the players around him! Pro-bowler Tiki Barber with a great ground game. Plexico Burras, stout offensive line. He has everything he needs to be successful.

I'd take Carr.

**Kaiser Toro** · 09-25-2005

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Originally Posted by CajunTexan

Eli looks more comfortable this year than last, but look at the players around him! Pro-bowler Tiki Barber with a great ground game. Plexico Burras, stout offensive line. He has everything he needs to be successful.

I'd take Carr.

I agree that Eli looks more comofrtable, but we have an all pro WR and a RB who has had back to back 1,000 yard seasons. As for the Giant's line it is very young. I remeber all of the bad press they were getting last year and they did not sign any pro bowl lineman. It appears that Eli was able to take his game to another level.

Honoring Earl 34 · 09-25-2005

:brickwall Since the 1998 draft QBs taken 1st overall are

98 Manning (goes to playoffs )
99 Couch ( expansion , out of league )
01 Vick ( goes to playoffs )
02 Carr ( expansion , wishes he had 1 wish )
03 Palmer ( should go to playoffs )
04 Manning ( should be good QB next year )
05 Smith ( has good seats )

Poor David gets the job of flying a kite with no wind blowing . Couch tried but his kite crashed . Its just hard on a QB to go to an expansion team .

CajunTexan · 09-25-2005

I love Dre and DD more than my luggage, but at this point in both of their careers, are not at the same level. Maybe you can argue Dre is, but I do not believe there is a defensive coordinator in the leaque that game plans for DD. He does not strike fear in any defense. He is awesome in spurts, but due to his size wears down and can be stopped.

LBC_Justin · 09-25-2005

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Originally Posted by CajunTexan

Eli looks more comfortable this year than last, but look at the players around him! Pro-bowler Tiki Barber with a great ground game. Plexico Burras, stout offensive line. He has everything he needs to be successful.

I'd take Carr.

Your also forgetting about a little known tight end named Jeremy Shockey. Eli has TONS of weapons.

CajunTexan · 09-25-2005

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Originally Posted by LBC_Justin

Your also forgetting about a little known tight end named Jeremy Shockey. Eli has TONS of weapons.

Word!!!!!
Out

**mexican_texan** · 09-25-2005

Rookie Sacks:

My boy Eli: 13
Car: NFL Record 75

Elite · 09-26-2005

ill take Eli i like the poise he shows and the maturity he shows in the pocket its only his second year and already looks years ahead of our poor beat up David Carr.

J-Storm · 09-26-2005

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Originally Posted by beerlover

I'm so tired of this BS. Carr was the Texans best option at the time period. anything else is pure hindsight

Not meaning to pick this post out on purpose as there are so many more like it but using it as a reference: People expected Carson Palmer to step up and so far he seems to have, people think Eli Manning should be doing more (based on name more than anything at a guess) and he has started to show it, Teaxns fans expect David Carr to do something/anything/everything he can and so far it's looking like he's gone further back from where he started. Whether it's fact or opinion, it's not far from being the truth despite the diffrence in O-Lines. Good quality QB's show that they can improve not make themselves or their team for that matter, worse!!!

**texanfan2002114** · 09-26-2005

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Originally Posted by LBC_Justin

I haven't watched Eli play very much but I have been watching the game tonight. He looked ok at times but he made a few HUGE mistakes and got lucky as hell that neither one came back to bite him.

1. Threw a pass to Plaxico and it should have been intercepted for a touchdown but the CB dropped it.
2. Threw a pass that was intercepted for a touchdown but it got called back on a tick tack penalty.

I would take Carr at this points. Eli would get eaten alive if he played on the Texans.

I agree with LBC. Eli also stares down his recievers and has longer than 3 secs. to get rid of the ball.

I'd take Carr any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

**texanfan2002114** · 09-26-2005

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Originally Posted by mexican_texan

Rookie Sacks:

My boy Eli: 13
Car: NFL Record 75

All that means is that Eli didn't start as a rookie and Carr started on an expansion team. Also Eli had a better O-Line and again Carr started on an expansion team.

Huge · 09-26-2005

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Originally Posted by LBC_Justin

I haven't watched Eli play very much but I have been watching the game tonight. He looked ok at times but he made a few HUGE mistakes and got lucky as hell that neither one came back to bite him.

1. Threw a pass to Plaxico and it should have been intercepted for a touchdown but the CB dropped it.
2. Threw a pass that was intercepted for a touchdown but it got called back on a tick tack penalty.

I would take Carr at this points. Eli would get eaten alive if he played on the Texans.

Eli - 2nd year
Carr - 4th year

09-25-2005	#1
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Double Barrel Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Section: Gridiron, Texas Age: 46 Posts: 27,242 Rep Power: 84022	I'd pick Carr. I'm not that impressed with Manning at this point. __________________ "FOOTBALL IS ONLY A DIVERSION." ~ HOUSTON TEXANS In Memoriam - 20 little angels

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Elite Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 217 Rep Power: 0	ill take Eli i like the poise he shows and the maturity he shows in the pocket its only his second year and already looks years ahead of our poor beat up David Carr. __________________ David Carr For President

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09-25-2005	#2
Honch Delgado Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	Funny how just a few months ago threads were being started about Carr being better than Mike Vick. Now it's come down to this. I'll say this, Baby Manning has better awareness and field vision than Carr. Until Carr can figure out how to read a D, he'll be a subpar backup.

09-25-2005	#3
JaguarsFan1 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	Carr!

09-25-2005	#7
beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,377 Rep Power: 15075	I'm so tired of this BS. Carr was the Texans best option at the time period. anything else is pure hindsight

09-25-2005	#8
LBC_Justin All Pro Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long Beach, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 805 Rep Power: 10	I haven't watched Eli play very much but I have been watching the game tonight. He looked ok at times but he made a few HUGE mistakes and got lucky as hell that neither one came back to bite him. 1. Threw a pass to Plaxico and it should have been intercepted for a touchdown but the CB dropped it. 2. Threw a pass that was intercepted for a touchdown but it got called back on a tick tack penalty. I would take Carr at this points. Eli would get eaten alive if he played on the Texans.

09-25-2005	#9
CajunTexan Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 52 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	Eli looks more comfortable this year than last, but look at the players around him! Pro-bowler Tiki Barber with a great ground game. Plexico Burras, stout offensive line. He has everything he needs to be successful. I'd take Carr.

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mexican_texan Furry Tractors Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Spring, TX Age: 22 Posts: 14,179 Rep Power: 1697	Rookie Sacks: My boy Eli: 13 Car: NFL Record 75

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