And how are the players doing we got rid of!

[Ibar_Harry]

I notice Arron Glenn had a real bad day with Dallas. That's a laugh. How would you all rate the others players. Our Coaching staff and management are you know what. But its the players fault we are where we are at. Right, now for the next laugh....................

If McNair is attending practice I don't know why the coaching staff is still on the field. What a fiasco. Players leave the Texans and become Gems in a lot of cases. There were a few duds in the mix, but the key ones have been successful.

I still say people were let go, because they made noises - Ah like do you know what the hell you are doing? Your gone was the response....... If you can't see that then keep looking because its going to possibly get worse. You take in my opinion an inept offensive line coach and make him an OC. This has diaster written all over it to me, but again that's just one man's opinion.

Did you notice how Cincy did today. Of course we play them next. Would 0-3 sound about right? It looks like to me the players are going through the motions and saying I'll be glad when this one is over with. They all are going to be looking if they can and I don't blame them. This nonsense has been going on far too long and the owner is just as responsible as anyone. He recognized the problem at the end of last season and I took the man at his word. Unfortunately his staff didn't and he has been left holding the bag. They sold him a bill of goods during preseason which made it too late to make changes. He was a sucker and didn't know it. I hope I'm wrong, but that's what it looks like to me.

Look at all of the promises by the coaching staff and what have we seen? It really is interesting. The players are just as much in the dark as the owner and the fans. Sorry to say its going to be a very bitter and long season. I would opt for a coach with a heart problem over what we have now. In fact a high school coach might be better than this bunch, because he might teach our guys some fundamentals...................... Good gravy he might even know how to call a mixture of plays................

Yes, I am Pxxxx at what we are seeing and how management is reacting and there is no hope on the horizon.

[Paul31]

Reggie Swinton returned 5 kickoffs for 83 yards and 2 punt returns for 16 yards.

[Kaiser Toro]

Originally Posted by Ibar_Harry

I notice Arron Glenn had a real bad day with Dallas. That's a laugh. How would you all rate the others players. Our Coaching staff and management are you know what. But its the players fault we are where we are at. Right, now for the next laugh....................

If McNair is attending practice I don't know why the coaching staff is still on the field. What a fiasco. Players leave the Texans and become Gems in a lot of cases. There were a few duds in the mix, but the key ones have been successful.

I still say people were let go, because they made noises - Ah like do you know what the hell you are doing? Your gone was the response....... If you can't see that then keep looking because its going to possibly get worse. You take in my opinion an inept offensive line coach and make him an OC. This has diaster written all over it to me, but again that's just one man's opinion.

Did you notice how Cincy did today. Of course we play them next. Would 0-3 sound about right? It looks like to me the players are going through the motions and saying I'll be glad when this one is over with. They all are going to be looking if they can and I don't blame them. This nonsense has been going on far too long and the owner is just as responsible as anyone. He recognized the problem at the end of last season and I took the man at his word. Unfortunately his staff didn't and he has been left holding the bag. They sold him a bill of goods during preseason which made it too late to make changes. He was a sucker and didn't know it. I hope I'm wrong, but that's what it looks like to me.

Look at all of the promises by the coaching staff and what have we seen? It really is interesting. The players are just as much in the dark as the owner and the fans. Sorry to say its going to be a very bitter and long season. I would opt for a coach with a heart problem over what we have now. In fact a high school coach might be better than this bunch, because he might teach our guys some fundamentals...................... Good gravy he might even know how to call a mixture of plays................

Yes, I am Pxxxx at what we are seeing and how management is reacting and there is no hope on the horizon.

Is this a question or a diatribe?

[LBC_Justin]

Originally Posted by Paul31

Reggie Swinton returned 5 kickoffs for 83 yards and 2 punt returns for 16 yards.

I agree Reggie Swinton has shown us nothing great.

4 punt returns with a 3.5 yard average.
10 kick off returns with a 24.7 yard average. (only as high as it is becase he broke one for 59 yards.)

Not bad, but hardly a gem. Not saying we should have cut him but you can't even come close to saying "ah man, see I told you we shouldn't have cut him, look how great he is doing."

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12748

[Vendetta, R.]

kenny wright is shutting em down.

[El Tejano]

The Kenny Wright deal was kind of sorry. However the reason for that was because of the play of Faggins.

[Ibar_Harry]

Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro

Is this a question or a diatribe?

In all honesty probably both........................

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by Ibar_Harry

In all honesty probably both........................

In all honesty probably neither. Since you put the question out there, how about actually naming the players who have been gems for other teams, i.e. played better than anyone thought while they played for the Texans. I'll spot you one--Foley. OK, now who else? Sharper and Glenn took huge paycuts and appear to be playing to their current salaries not the ones they had with the Texans. Swinton has been benched from return duties much less receiving. So who else?

[Reddevil63]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

I'll spot you one--Foley. OK, now who else?

Id like to see what our pass rush situation would be with Foley and Jeff Posey still here.

[Wharton]

Originally Posted by Ibar_Harry

I notice Arron Glenn had a real bad day with Dallas. That's a laugh.

Glenn played well, it was the safety who blew the coverage on both of the long touchdowns.

Sharper is leading the Seahawks in tackles so I would say he is doing ok as well.

[bckey]

I'd like to see what our team would look like if we kept all our draft picks that we traded away for Babin and Buchanon and the 2nd we blew on Hollings.

[Texas_Heat]

Originally Posted by Paul31

Reggie Swinton returned 5 kickoffs for 83 yards and 2 punt returns for 16 yards.

And he just got bench this week, Swinton is down to a bench warmer it was a good move to cut him.

[ledzeppelin229]

Honestly I think our problem is our defensive system. Nothing against Foley, Posey, etc but it's clear scouts thought more highly of Babin and Peek than those two, yet here we are with two great athletes that by now should have a decent understanding of the system, yet aren't producing. I think if either one of them were in San Diego, they would appear much better on the statsheets. It's become pretty much common knowledge that Fangio's system is supposed to be complex and it seems like that's holding back our linebackers. On paper we should be able to get to the QB, but it just isn't happening.

[edo783]

We have a read and react defense when we should have a move and disrupt one. I don't think a 34 defense will work as a read and react, it puts to much strain on the DBs to hold up.

[BengalTyler]

Originally Posted by Texas_Heat

And he just got bench this week, Swinton is down to a bench warmer it was a good move to cut him.

I guess Babin isn't working out??? I remember the scouts being all over that guy, and saying how he's the perfect fit for the 3-4.... Buchannon benched too? ouch.

[rmartin65]

pass rush needs a guy whos a bad guy. one of those really mean guys

[Cincinnatikid]

Originally Posted by ledzeppelin269

Honestly I think our problem is our defensive system. Nothing against Foley, Posey, etc but it's clear scouts thought more highly of Babin and Peek than those two, yet here we are with two great athletes that by now should have a decent understanding of the system, yet aren't producing. I think if either one of them were in San Diego, they would appear much better on the statsheets. It's become pretty much common knowledge that Fangio's system is supposed to be complex and it seems like that's holding back our linebackers. On paper we should be able to get to the QB, but it just isn't happening.

I agree with you 100% If this defense was not playing so soft and dropping Peek back into zone at least half of the game it could be different. How often have they sent 6 on one blitz? Not much. We have yet to see Dunta blitzing from the edge, and where are some safety blitzes like Polomolu is using up in Pittsburgh? The Defense needs a different sceme, its called attacking. Peek is being contained by the coaches, and the coaches arent giving the DBs much of a chance either.

[touttail]

I for one screamed about getting rid of Reggie. Boy howdy, talk about eating crow, he hasn't done squat.

To me it was a big mistake getting rid of AGlenn. You have to have a veteran leader on you D and we have none!

bobby 119C :brickwall