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Old 09-20-2005   #61
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At what point did Capers just decide to pull the switch?
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I "gripe" about three things, and three things only TMAC:

1. Carr not owning up to his errors and not taking HIS offense on his shoulders. Forget our o line and its woes. He's got to overcome that TODAY and just find ways to move on without them. Too many people are getting caught up in how poor our o line is, and they bail out Carr in the process.

2. Stupid personnel moves. You CANNOT tell me I don't have a legitimate gripe about the inept personnel decisions such as Buchanon, cutting Swinton, cutting Sloan Thomas, etc. Anybody with an eye for football (and not for politics) could see that certain people on this team are WORTHY of not only making the team but also of starting, but they don't get the chance because of pure politics. Which leads me to my next "gripe" that you feel I am in unjust of having...

3. Capers. I just refuse to get all happy and giddy about Palmer being fired when both Palmer AND Capers should have been canned. Had I seen management say "You know what, both of 'em need to go...," you would see one happy Texans fan. My gripe list would be cut down to only 1 (Carr) because getting rid of Capers is the last step needed for our recovery to begin. The guy is DONE. No tinkering by Capers will make a lasting impression or change our teama round. Capers IS the problem.

But I'm some big loser because I don't get the faith and get the fire when they keep Capers (when he should be gone). So, politics is still alive and well.

You guys are so desperate for a STINKIN WIN that you will sell our team's future for it. As long as SOMETHING works and we get a win, it's OK by you. You get to feel good for a week...and then we get blown out the next week. The whole thing just repeats itself in some sort of sick cycle and all the while there are so many fans here who honestly only care about winning a game here and there and NOT caring about the long term future of this team.

I have seen veteran members of this board who in years past would defend this team to the hilt during a time like this, and now they are tired of this mess as much (or more) than I am.

So attack me personally if you want. I guess you're part of the group that thinks a few tinker moves will get us back on the right track. It might do the trick for a few games, but we'll always be right back here in pity party land wondering why-oh-why things went so horribly wrong when we had just began to win games again. And as long as a lot of the current coaches (Capers at the head of that list) remain and receive get-out-of-jail-free cards while they pin the blame on other people, I just don't see much to cheer about because the players cannot overcome that sort of atmosphere.

I can gripe if I want to. Put me on your ignore list if it bothers you so much. I don't care what you think of me or what you think about what I post. You're wasting your time if you think you're so important that I need to obey you and only write silver lining pie-in-the-sky posts that make me into some super-fan homer and some cheer leader for a team that honestly is not worthy being praised right now.

I'll say it and say it and say it: Capers getting canned will shut me up. Until that happens, nothing good on the field will last for long. And you all just need to brace yourselves for the reality that Capers making some bold moves is NOT the answer for any long term success. Which gets me back to my point that I made in my earlier post:

If these moves are so great, why didn't he make them weeks ago since even the casual Texans fan noticed that Buchanon is not the answer, the offensive plans and schemes are horrible, and Babin is only efefctive against the run and not a good pass rusher, etc., etc., etc.? All Capers' bold moves do to me is make me mad because he waited until the wheels fell off to fire Palmer, and to make player moves when he KNOWS he should have made them in camp or in preseason. So he didn't get some sort of out-of-the-blue lightning bolt revelation after this past game. He has known about this for a long time, and he's getting patted on the back for making these moves now when he should have made them before the season started. Faggins and Orr might have made a huuuuuuge difference in team attitude and performance in the first two games but we'll never know.

It's a short season (16 games) not 82 or 162. 16 games. Losing yor first two games just puts you in the worst position possible. Winning two-in-a-row only gets you back to .500 and you've got 12 games left. Tick tock, Tick tock. In the NFL, you can't come out of the gate slow and expect to make up ground easily. Just answer me this: Do you think Capers can turn this team around, or is he the problem? You know my answer. What's your answer to this question, TMAC?
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you what...i can't say that these are the right moves but i am gonna say they're better than doing nothing...maybe giving orr and faggins a week to start will lite a fire under babin and buchanan's butts...did i like the babin and buchanan trades...no...i was ok with the buchanan one till the season started but not anymore...fangio needs to go as well and we need to promote hoke as d. coordinator in my opinion...i think the reason why orr got the start over anderson is because of his motor...reminds me of peek...bottom line we're gonna continue to see changes throughout the season and it is an interesting time to be a texan fan...not good but interesting...interesting to see which players are worth keeping and which we should just let go
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While he's at it, Capers can admit he should have kept Swinton for kick returns AND punt returns. At least go back and get JJ Moses (if he'd even agree to play for us!). Morency is a joke at KR.
We dont need JJ...IMO, Morency is only K/R because of Mathis' injury..I would like to see this kid Donovan Morgan come up from the practice squad and return punts/kicks rather than trying to get JJ. Hopefully when Mathis comes back, we will see Morency backing up DD a lil more and not returning kicks.
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I "gripe" about three things, and three things only TMAC:

1. Carr not owning up to his errors and not taking HIS offense on his shoulders. Forget our o line and its woes. He's got to overcome that TODAY and just find ways to move on without them. Too many people are getting caught up in how poor our o line is, and they bail out Carr in the process.

2. Stupid personnel moves. You CANNOT tell me I don't have a legitimate gripe about the inept personnel decisions such as Buchanon, cutting Swinton, cutting Sloan Thomas, etc. Anybody with an eye for football (and not for politics) could see that certain people on this team are WORTHY of not only making the team but also of starting, but they don't get the chance because of pure politics. Which leads me to my next "gripe" that you feel I am in unjust of having...

3. Capers. I just refuse to get all happy and giddy about Palmer being fired when both Palmer AND Capers should have been canned. Had I seen management say "You know what, both of 'em need to go...," you would see one happy Texans fan. My gripe list would be cut down to only 1 (Carr) because getting rid of Capers is the last step needed for our recovery to begin. The guy is DONE. No tinkering by Capers will make a lasting impression or change our teama round. Capers IS the problem.

But I'm some big loser because I don't get the faith and get the fire when they keep Capers (when he should be gone). So, politics is still alive and well.

You guys are so desperate for a STINKIN WIN that you will sell our team's future for it. As long as SOMETHING works and we get a win, it's OK by you. You get to feel good for a week...and then we get blown out the next week. The whole thing just repeats itself in some sort of sick cycle and all the while there are so many fans here who honestly only care about winning a game here and there and NOT caring about the long term future of this team.

I have seen veteran members of this board who in years past would defend this team to the hilt during a time like this, and now they are tired of this mess as much (or more) than I am.

So attack me personally if you want. I guess you're part of the group that thinks a few tinker moves will get us back on the right track. It might do the trick for a few games, but we'll always be right back here in pity party land wondering why-oh-why things went so horribly wrong when we had just began to win games again. And as long as a lot of the current coaches (Capers at the head of that list) remain and receive get-out-of-jail-free cards while they pin the blame on other people, I just don't see much to cheer about because the players cannot overcome that sort of atmosphere.

I can gripe if I want to. Put me on your ignore list if it bothers you so much. I don't care what you think of me or what you think about what I post. You're wasting your time if you think you're so important that I need to obey you and only write silver lining pie-in-the-sky posts that make me into some super-fan homer and some cheer leader for a team that honestly is not worthy being praised right now.

I'll say it and say it and say it: Capers getting canned will shut me up. Until that happens, nothing good on the field will last for long. And you all just need to brace yourselves for the reality that Capers making some bold moves is NOT the answer for any long term success. Which gets me back to my point that I made in my earlier post:

If these moves are so great, why didn't he make them weeks ago since even the casual Texans fan noticed that Buchanon is not the answer, the offensive plans and schemes are horrible, and Babin is only efefctive against the run and not a good pass rusher, etc., etc., etc.? All Capers' bold moves do to me is make me mad because he waited until the wheels fell off to fire Palmer, and to make player moves when he KNOWS he should have made them in camp or in preseason. So he didn't get some sort of out-of-the-blue lightning bolt revelation after this past game. He has known about this for a long time, and he's getting patted on the back for making these moves now when he should have made them before the season started. Faggins and Orr might have made a huuuuuuge difference in team attitude and performance in the first two games but we'll never know.

It's a short season (16 games) not 82 or 162. 16 games. Losing yor first two games just puts you in the worst position possible. Winning two-in-a-row only gets you back to .500 and you've got 12 games left. Tick tock, Tick tock. In the NFL, you can't come out of the gate slow and expect to make up ground easily. Just answer me this: Do you think Capers can turn this team around, or is he the problem? You know my answer. What's your answer to this question, TMAC?
He's right, nobody say anything positive about the Texans anymore. Everything that was good has died and Capers is the anti-christ.
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....so faggins will be up against Chad Johnson? Why not Robinson? Good corner vs good reveiver makes sense to me.
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I "gripe" about three things, and three things only TMAC:

1. Carr not owning up to his errors and not taking HIS offense on his shoulders. Forget our o line and its woes. He's got to overcome that TODAY and just find ways to move on without them. Too many people are getting caught up in how poor our o line is, and they bail out Carr in the process.

2. Stupid personnel moves. You CANNOT tell me I don't have a legitimate gripe about the inept personnel decisions such as Buchanon, cutting Swinton, cutting Sloan Thomas, etc. Anybody with an eye for football (and not for politics) could see that certain people on this team are WORTHY of not only making the team but also of starting, but they don't get the chance because of pure politics. Which leads me to my next "gripe" that you feel I am in unjust of having...

3. Capers. I just refuse to get all happy and giddy about Palmer being fired when both Palmer AND Capers should have been canned. Had I seen management say "You know what, both of 'em need to go...," you would see one happy Texans fan. My gripe list would be cut down to only 1 (Carr) because getting rid of Capers is the last step needed for our recovery to begin. The guy is DONE. No tinkering by Capers will make a lasting impression or change our teama round. Capers IS the problem.

But I'm some big loser because I don't get the faith and get the fire when they keep Capers (when he should be gone). So, politics is still alive and well.

You guys are so desperate for a STINKIN WIN that you will sell our team's future for it. As long as SOMETHING works and we get a win, it's OK by you. You get to feel good for a week...and then we get blown out the next week. The whole thing just repeats itself in some sort of sick cycle and all the while there are so many fans here who honestly only care about winning a game here and there and NOT caring about the long term future of this team.

I have seen veteran members of this board who in years past would defend this team to the hilt during a time like this, and now they are tired of this mess as much (or more) than I am.

So attack me personally if you want. I guess you're part of the group that thinks a few tinker moves will get us back on the right track. It might do the trick for a few games, but we'll always be right back here in pity party land wondering why-oh-why things went so horribly wrong when we had just began to win games again. And as long as a lot of the current coaches (Capers at the head of that list) remain and receive get-out-of-jail-free cards while they pin the blame on other people, I just don't see much to cheer about because the players cannot overcome that sort of atmosphere.

I can gripe if I want to. Put me on your ignore list if it bothers you so much. I don't care what you think of me or what you think about what I post. You're wasting your time if you think you're so important that I need to obey you and only write silver lining pie-in-the-sky posts that make me into some super-fan homer and some cheer leader for a team that honestly is not worthy being praised right now.

I'll say it and say it and say it: Capers getting canned will shut me up. Until that happens, nothing good on the field will last for long. And you all just need to brace yourselves for the reality that Capers making some bold moves is NOT the answer for any long term success. Which gets me back to my point that I made in my earlier post:

If these moves are so great, why didn't he make them weeks ago since even the casual Texans fan noticed that Buchanon is not the answer, the offensive plans and schemes are horrible, and Babin is only efefctive against the run and not a good pass rusher, etc., etc., etc.? All Capers' bold moves do to me is make me mad because he waited until the wheels fell off to fire Palmer, and to make player moves when he KNOWS he should have made them in camp or in preseason. So he didn't get some sort of out-of-the-blue lightning bolt revelation after this past game. He has known about this for a long time, and he's getting patted on the back for making these moves now when he should have made them before the season started. Faggins and Orr might have made a huuuuuuge difference in team attitude and performance in the first two games but we'll never know.

It's a short season (16 games) not 82 or 162. 16 games. Losing yor first two games just puts you in the worst position possible. Winning two-in-a-row only gets you back to .500 and you've got 12 games left. Tick tock, Tick tock. In the NFL, you can't come out of the gate slow and expect to make up ground easily. Just answer me this: Do you think Capers can turn this team around, or is he the problem? You know my answer. What's your answer to this question, TMAC?
Calm down a bit. All i'm saying is that there is no reason to get on this board and complain over and over again about things that you can't change. I'm not saying that these few small moves are going to save our season, i'm just saying that i'm glad they are finally doing something. Yeah, we've made some stupid personnel moves, but what's the use of continuously complaining about them? We just have to nut up and do what we can with what we have. I'm sure that even when they fire Capers (and they will) I'll be able to come to this board and read your posts about how they should have done it sooner and they should have hired somebody else, blah freakin blah. It's simple, the FO has made bad decisions, there's nothing we can do about. Posting the same friggin' complaints over and over again certainly isn't going to fix anything. However, the firing of the OC and benching of 2 starters on defense should definately get things moving in the right direction.
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My main point is that nothing short of firing Capers, as well as possibly a few more coaching changes, will do anything for this team's long-term success.

I can't rah-rah sis-boom-bah until Capers is out of here.

I almost got happy about the player changes, but I knew in my heart that the real road to recovery lies in firing Capers. Only then will I be able to fully support and cheer this team like I used to. To me, and this is just me, getting excited over ANY move made by Capers is sort of like pretending that Capers has no involvement in this situation. He IS the problem.

Just hoping that he goes into retirement soon. I don't want to root against a player or a coach, but I sure don't want him to buy some magic beans and sprout a fluke win here and there and thus buy himself more time than he should get. Thanks for the expansion team memories, Dom. But it's time to part ways. A new chapter is about to be written by this team.

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What I don't get is the Buchanon benching. I won't defend his play at all, but if they went to all the trouble to acquire him and trade away draft picks only to give him a leash of two games, why bother? It feels like they were apprehensive that he'd play poorly and when it materialized, they benched him. So again, why bother? Let some othe rteam get burned by the trade. At least Babin has had 18 regular season games + preseason to prove he's a bust. P-Buch has had two. You have to admit, that's a pretty small sample size for any NFL player, not to mention one that you've given up quite a bit for. If they were factoring in his Raider games as part of his test, then they should never have acquired him.

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Did anyone catch the Phillip Buchanon interview about him getting benched to a backup role? To me, he acted like it wasn't a big deal to him, in fact he acted a little cocky/humored by it. I sure do wish we still had Aaron Glenn, a player who really did care about his performance.
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Did anyone catch the Phillip Buchanon interview about him getting benched to a backup role? To me, he acted like it wasn't a big deal to him, in fact he acted a little cocky/humored by it. I sure do wish we still had Aaron Glenn, a player who really did care about his performance.
The not big deal thing does not bother me as much as does not seem to process that the proper move in that situation was to stop the player from getting in the endzone versus tryiing to strip Parker of the ball at the 3 yardline. He wants to make the big play but can't grasp that make the solid one is often a bigger deal than spectacular one.
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Babin didn't seem upset either. I would like to have seen a little fire in his actions and at least act like it bothered him.
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I fear that Capers is losing his players.
I think he has already lost the players. Buh-Bye Capers!
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I fear that Capers is losing his players.
I said pretty much the same thing in the Palmer fired thread yesterday. I think alot of the players have lost confidence in the the staff in general. Honestly for a defensive Coach - Mr. Capers has done little to build a quality defense much less a defense that dominates which was his job to do.

IMO Capers, Fangio and Casserley have reached the end of the rope too. These 3 are the responsible parties in all the decision making for the defense - a defense thats placed consistently in the bottom qtr/half of the nfl since they have been here with only 1 standout draft pick in 4 years thats made any impact and this years team has shown to be making no ground on being a better defense than the last 3 years. "Dont rush, we got plenty of time" is the phrase that comes to mind when I think of the Texans D.

Call a spade a spade - The offense stinks for sure - but the defense is what keeps us in the game and was supposed to be our stronger squad, yet the decision makers got rid of a pro-bowl CB, both leaders in tackling for the team and traded mutliple draft picks for sub-par talent that they have now demoted as overvalued and non-producing talent. Honestly which has failed more to produce - The Offense or the Defense from the supposed Defenseive guru coach Capers?
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I know this is a motivation tool for PBuc and Babin, but I am so pleased that Shantee Orr is starting. He's been a favorite of mine since the injury-plagued 2003 season. He was the first LB around here to show any passion or fire.
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Well I say we all just wait until after this next game. It's probably the most crucial game for Capers/Casserly. We either turn it around here or panic will really be setting in. Let's see the changes that have come to the offense, see if we can move the ball, see if our defense has a spark lit under them, and see if Pendry can make a difference.
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