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Old 09-19-2005   #141
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"Interestingly, Pendry was fired by Capers after the 1997 season at Carolina. Although, it was never confirmed, there was specualtion that Panthers owner Jerry Richardson made Capers fire Pendry, who was under fire because his offense was too conservative and unimaginative. "

It might get worse???
Not likely, average age in Carolina in 1997 was 35, they had guys past their prime who had been better off being replaced with younger better talent..we in no way resemble Carolina in 1997
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Old 09-19-2005   #142
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after reading most of these post lets sell the team to big BUD ADAMS and change coachs every two years but i dont understand why Jeff fisher is still there .
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Ok... Now can we see what we don't do with the offense I guess. Don't know how much you can do with the running game other than let them gel and learn what works, like waiting for blocks maybe? The passing game though... now that's what I want to watch and see if any major developements pop up.
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I hope Palmer wasn't fired to just buy more time for Capers.
We'll never know for sure, but I think that IS what happened. I think Mack Brown did the same thing to his defensive coordinator.
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We'll never know for sure, but I think that IS what happened. I think Mack Brown did the same thing to his defensive coordinator.
...which DC are you talking about for Brown? His one from last year left UT to become Head Coach at Syracuse...
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We have rowed out to the middle of the lake ... ooops theres a leak somebody's gotta go. Eeeny meeeny miny moe Chris its you so now you go .
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Does this seem weird to anyone else? The absolute worst part of this team is our OL, and the coach who has been coaching them was just promoted? Strange.
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Maybe we're supposed to read between the lines and realize that pendry was fired from his job of OL coach, and temporarily put into the OC spot until someone better could be found.
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...which DC are you talking about for Brown? His one from last year left UT to become Head Coach at Syracuse...

Sorry, I meant Carl Reese, not Greg Robinson.
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one step forward, two steps back. we're finally making changes ... YaY! now lets see if we can make the RIGHT changes. palmer was the scapegoat and seemed to me atleast to be the only one with anything resembling a clue. pendry will yes maam capers and together they'll run the ball 60 times for 40 yards until pendry is made the next scapegoat (again). capers still sits dumbfounded on the sideline, carr's still running scared, our zone defense is still completely lost, buchannon's still getting roasted, we still have zero pass rush, and our offensive line is still the worst in the league.

my appologies for not dancing with joy.
Capers has missed his calling--Used Car Salesman--whatever he has to tell McNair to keep his job, he'll do--his line of BS and ability to tell a person what they want to hear are top notch--where he fails is on delivery of his promises but that's where he starts all over again. For Capers, it is not actually putting a winning team on the field but-rather-convincing those that matter he's not at fault and winning is just around the corner...just a little more time...
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There were no other options. When upper management starts to scramble for their own jobs they have to layoff middle managers to try and cover up their mistakes. Palmer was the first pawn knocked off. Expect Carr to be the next.
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Maybe they should just let AJ call the plays in the huddle and see if PB can play reciever cuz he sure can't play D. Or maybe he can keep up with Carr's pacifier on the sideline. We ALL know you HAVE TO BE VERSATILE!!! i hope CC is cuz he needs to go.
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[quote=Meloy]Yeah and Buddy Ryan is ready to knock that "chuck & duck" guy on his keister again. Why would you want a pass happy guy like Gilbride, when our pass blocking is so bad, we move our ALL PRO receiver into the slot so he might get 5-6 yards? AARGGH! We sign a QB that can get over 3,000 yards, a 1000 yard receiver, and Mathis for his blinding speed to play behind a line that is built for "running". If I was Carr and Johnson, I think I would sit on the bench and say "call us when you get serious".[quote]

Calm down big man - it's called sarcasm. My real vote would go to G. Kubiak.
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Should I assume that you haven't watched the guy play?

The guy is a winner, playmaker, leader... plus every other intangible quality you can think of.
yes I've seen him play.... and yes he will be an NFL quarterback, hopefully next year so Ohio State doesn't have to face him again
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Firing Palmer was a brilliant move... a message needed to be sent to the entire organization, coaches and players. Somebody had to go, now who would be missed the least? Bingo, Palmer!

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Palmer was the first pawn knocked off. Expect Carr to be the next.
Nah. If there's a next one it'll be Capers himself. You only get to push one other guy off the plane before somebody boots you out too.

Besides, if Carr were next, that would be admitting that the Texans' first overall pick in history was a bust. And that would mean someone ELSE *ahem* would be in trouble. He'll push Capers out first. 'Sides, it's cheaper to change coaches than QBs.

Notice I didn't say "smarter." I said "cheaper." Just to be clear.
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they might not be saying david is a bust but the word is that iternally they are. who knows we might finnaly get A Qb wich some actual college experience hell it doesnt have to be matt lionheart i rather have AJ feeley
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During the Saints-Giants game tonight, they showed clips of Eli Manning firing lasers down the field. Nothing fancy. Eli would drop and let the ball go almost as soon as his last drop-step hit the ground. It wasn't like he was standing in a pocket for an eternity or anything. And he was looking off receivers, etc., just doing the normal progressions an NFL QB has to make to keep the chains moving. Then, an amazing thing happened. busted up by several passing plays, the Saints defense didn't even lay a hand on Tiki Barber as he scampered into the end zone from about 10-yards out. Just as Willie Parker did to us last weekend after Ben would pick us apart with smart reads and accurate passes down the majority of the field.

And here's the meat of this story:

Suzie Kohlber, the cool sideline reporter for Monday Night Football, told Al and John upstairs that Eli's teammates were very confident in him this year, and she said (Gasp!) that Eli calls MOST of the plays himself.

What a shocker.

You mean some NFL QBs actually have the confidence of their coaches to know what's happening and make the adjustments as needed?

I thought every QB was required to let their offensive coordinator, a fat guy in a skin-tight t-shirt half-a-mile away in the nose-bleed booth, who is sipping on a Dr. Pepper and looking through a phone book-sized playbook call the play since he's so in-touch with what the QB is going through in a real game of life and death on the field where men-eating defensive players salivate over driving your helmet through your skull and down into your chest cavity.

At what point does Carr get to be a grown-up and call the majority of plays?

At what point do we take the training wheels off and let David do what a second-year guy (Eli Manning) is already doing in NEW YORK of all places, the place where disgruntled players like Plaxico go...the place where old players like Barber are running wild like Hulk-A-Mania? It ain't like the Giants are several years ahead of us in terms of talent, OK?

There is a direct correlation to the success of Peyton, who calls most of his own plays, and the early success of Eli Manning who has his team at 2-0 in only his second year of being an NFL QB.

Get whatever coordiantor you want, Mr. McNair...

At some point, David's gotta be entrusted with the majority of playcalling. Unless him running out of bounds every other play is Carr's playcalling.

I honestly do NOT know if ANY coordinator is the answer if Carr canot be entrusted to call plays and lead HIS team down the field. It kinda' starts with him, and maybe he'll get to do more playcalling now.

But, as most of you have pointed out...capers has put his "boy" Pendry in there to run the ball like it's 1996 all over again.

Good grief..............................
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