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Old 09-19-2005   #61
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Iím sure everyone can agree that it was definitely a very hot day at the game.

The Texans made a poor decision they felt would give them home field advantage. Would this topic be as big if we would have won? What if it had been obvious that the Steelers were worn down from the heat?
Of course it would be virtually impossible to determine if Steelers were being worn down by the heat, but had the Texans won, I still would have complained about sitting in the broiling sun for 3 hours when there was an alternative. I think 70,000 screaming fans would have been at least as much of a home-field advantage as trying to make them suffer through heat (which our team had to contend with as well). I've read some posts that seem to suggest folks are being wimps, for complaining about the heat, but I have to wonder how many of those folks had seats directly in the sun for the entire game (and stayed in those seats for the entire game). Iím a transplant from Milwaukee and then Baltimore and have been to football games in open-air stadiums in sub-freezing temperatures and anyone who has been to those type games and a situation like yesterday will say bring on the cold. Nothing that a down coat and some frantic yelling cannot combat, but what can you do when the sun is beating you down? You can abandon your seats, but whatís the point in that. By the way, I called 832-667-2002 and pressed option for PSL representative and lodged a formal complaint. Hopefully if enough folks do the same, us fans will never be faced with such conditions again.
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The Texans made a poor decision they felt would give them home field advantage. Would this topic be as big if we would have won? What if it had been obvious that the Steelers were worn down from the heat?
I think we can all agree here that a fans health is more important then a win! Is wearing down the Steelers worth the possibility of a heat related stroke or heart attack to one of the fans?

I started this string without making any comments about game strategy because, quite frankly, this isn't a game strategy, its a health issue.

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Old 09-19-2005   #63
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THIS WAS RIDICULOUS.

I spend all that money to sit in the seats, and I have to sit through 120 degrees!!! Not even to mention the sloth that was put on the field today.


Terrible, terrible idea leaving the roof open. That is why we have a roof, close it.
I have season tickets in the South end zone, aka, the shady end. Let me tell ya, it was hot there too. I cannot even imagine what it was like in the empty seats that were in the sun. I would have left too. If that is the head coaches idea or choice, then no wonder we are losing all our games. Stupid move on whom ever's idea that was. Must have made the decision while sitting in an A/C'd office.....
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I think the Texans made a huge mistake yesterday, and undid much of the goodwill they've built up over the first three years of the franchise. It's a shame, because I think the organization has done so much that's right and fan-friendly prior to this year.

We received the e-mail last week with the news that the roof would be open, but I really thought that with the forecast for record-breaking heat, the Texans would change their decision. When I saw the roof open, I knew it would be a miserable and dangerous situation.

At the very least, they were ill-prepared to help fans cope with the conditions. How can you run out of water (or sell HOT bottles of water) when you know the temperature in the sun in the seating areas is in excess of 100 degrees?

I am not a fan of indoor football, but I thought the roof should have been closed yesterday. Between the temperature and the team playing like they think it's 2002, it was a lousy day. We got shade at half time, so it became tolerable for the second half, but I actually had to go up to the concourse to cool off a couple times during the first half. The field-level concourse looked like Denver airport in a snowstorm, with people sitting everywhere and watching the game on TV. If people wanted to watch the game on TV, they wouldn't spend money on season tickets. The sad part is, it was totally unnecessary. :brickwall

Reliant Stadium wasn't designed to have any air movement when the temperatures are that high. I was in College Station for the A&M game on Saturday, and was in the sun for about the same length of time as I was yesterday. Even though it was brutally hot Saturday, there is no comparison to the temperature in Reliant yesterday. On Saturday I was able to cope by staying well hydrated. Yesterday I had to seek shade.

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Why would I close this thread? I sent it to the proper people yesterday. If you want to be heard they are reading you now.
Vinny,

If it's possible, could the people you sent this to reply with some information as to what possible changes might be made?

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Sure, If they don't address this situation in the next few days I will ask them if their policy is in review and I will relay anything I hear from them.
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Ok, after reading all of the posts I take back what I said about cheese and whine...I wasn't there so I should just keep my mouth shut.
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for all the complainers in the house

why don't any of yall just call capers and complain on sportsradio610 to him?

you guys are out of your mind if you don't think the Texans customer service department do a great job
That's easy to say coming from a 17 year old who was sitting at his Daddy's home in the air conditioning drinking Kool-aid. Get in the heat with us at the game and see if your comments dont change.... Until then, shut up...
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The afternoon guys on 610 were talking about this. Rich said they set off some fireworks or something and the smoke just settled in the stadium. Marc said there is no breeze or air circulation in the stadium which makes it different from other "hot weather" stadiums.

It sounds dangerous when people are passing out.
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I'm gonna step on some toes by saying this...but I was embarrased to be a TEXAN FAN yesterday. And NOT because of the team. The FANS sound like a bunch of babies. It's too hot...it's too hot, close the roof. And all of the EMPTY ROWS OF SEATS all surrounding me...UNTIL the shade made it to our section. My friend came to his 1st Texan game yesterday (just moved here from Wisconsin) and he couldn't get over the crowds reaction. He's a season ticket holder for the PACKERS and he said he has NEVER seen their fans complain like that for any reason...even when the team was HORRIBLE. This coming from a football fan who sits in BELOW ZERO weather with snow & sleet pelting him the entire time. THIS IS FOOTBALL PEOPLE. NOT BOWLING. If you want air conditioning and "perfect conditions" then maybe you need to get Rockets tickets. You all sound like a bunch of spoiled babies.

A MIST MACHINE...?! Give me a break. Want someone to come rub your feet, too?

Look...it's called "be prepared". I didn't bring my 2 year old nephew because babies/toddlers can't tolerate weather extremes like an adult can. And if you are afraid of passing out from being dehydrated, drink some Pedialyte or pickle juice before the game. You WILL NOT be dehydrated.

And I notice many of those whinning about the roof are the same people who call for Dom Caper's head. I think some people are just looking for reasons to complain.

Bob McNair has an excellent organization with an excellent stadium. He worked dilligently to help us beat LA for the franchise. And all you people can do is find reasons to complain. This is the same attitude that facilitated the OILERS leaving (besides Bud being an *****).

In the words of my friend from Wisconsin "You guys should just be grateful you have a team". :brickwall

I'm out like Chris Palmer's NFL coaching career.
Just maybe, being a packer fan is alot easier than being a texas football fan. I doubt our fans would be as fickle if we won as many super bowls as they had.

Another quick question, how many football players die a year because they practice in the cold? Now compare that to football players dieing in the heat. It was dangerous for players to even be playing in an oven like last night.

It was an oven. The sun baked down on the fans, and we had no breeze or even water to buy. It cost 7 dollars to get a hot water and a cup of ice.

The stadium actually stunk whenever I made it into the concourse at halftime. My shorts were even soaked with sweat, and I am 20 years old and in good shape. I can only imagine the fans who dress up.

I have never ever been in the bullpen when it was so quiet. It was dead. Everyone left. No one could take it. There were more empty seats in the second quarter, then their were filled seats.

It would be one thing if we had an open stadium where hot air could escape, and a breeze could make it through. But we have a tiny hole in the roof compared to most open stadiums.

Sat through the whole game however, and I burned nicely. It looks like I still have a shirt on when I take it off.

Either way, this does not need to happen again.

This isnt lambeau, this was a new field built for comfort. If not someone could have saved a couple 100 mill for the price of having a retractable roof.
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"We receive complaints when the roof is open, and we also receive complaints when the roof is closed," said Tony Wyllie, the Texans vice president of communications. "Moving forward, we will consider the fans' comfort when deciding whether the roof will be open or closed."
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I spent 3+ hours in direct sunlight yesterday and sweated off all my sun-block, so now I have sun-burnt skin to deal with. .

Academy sells a sun screen called "Smart Shield". It was designed for fishermen. I use it all the time when fishing and it never "sweats off", stays the entire day. Good stuff, try it.

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"We receive complaints when the roof is open, and we also receive complaints when the roof is closed," said Tony Wyllie, the Texans vice president of communications. "Moving forward, we will consider the fans' comfort when deciding whether the roof will be open or closed."
I would venture to guess complaints about roof being closed are not nearly as numerous or vehement as roof being open under a broiling sun. I would further speculate no one ever passed out because the roof was closed. Perhaps for some perspective Mr. Wyllie should sit in a seat getting direct sunlight in Reliant stadium for about 3 Ĺ hours any day the temperature exceeds 95 degrees. Then perhaps he could assist the organization with making an informed and intelligent decision.
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I would venture to guess complaints about roof being closed are not nearly as numerous or vehement as roof being open under a broiling sun. I would further speculate no one ever passed out because the roof was closed. Perhaps for some perspective Mr. Wyllie should sit in a seat getting direct sunlight in Reliant stadium for about 3 Ĺ hours any day the temperature exceeds 95 degrees. Then perhaps he could assist the organization with making an informed and intelligent decision.
They are too busy drinking champagne and sitting in an air conditioned luxury box to give a flying ****
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I'm going to say "sorry for the flame" up front but I didn't see anything on the message board about this and I am sure others would agree with me.

WHEN THE HEAT INDEX IS OVER 90, CLOSE THE ROOF!!!!!!

According to Yahoo weather, the temperature was 93 at 4:30 (after the game) with a high of 95. There is no telling what the heat index was during the game. Particularly, given there is little to no breeze in the stadium.

One of the fans seated two rows in front of me passed out!! During half time, I saw another guy being carted off on a stretcher with an IV in his arm. As for myself, I spent the second half in an air conditioned part of the stadium near the smokers area and watched the second half on the TV. This is not the way I want to spend my games.

Again, I am sorry for the flame, but I do not know of a better way to get this point across to management.

Sign if you agree.

I agree, the value of the seat and ability to support the team are injured. To assume that in this era that the heat has significantly greater impact on the visiting team is not accurate. If the heat index is above 80, keep it closed. If you look at he stands on any game with the roof open, those seats in the sun are empty. Wake-up, or we all will lose.
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I honestly do not know how I didn't pass out! I had to work all night long the night before and had not had even a wink of sleep. I was a walking zombie, arriving to the stadium. Thank god I am in the South Endzone or I would have just went home. Even in the shade it was miserable. I can't imagine how it was in the bullpen. I guess that is another reason it was empty just before halftime.
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Here is a quote from an article on the Houston Chronicle's web site.

"We receive complaints when the roof is open, and we also receive complaints when the roof is closed," said Tony Wyllie, the Texans vice president of communications. "Moving forward, we will consider the fans' comfort when deciding whether the roof will be open or closed."

Personally, I thought the article by the Chronicle and the comments by the Texans Tony Wyllie were both pretty lame! Here are a few questions that should have been answered in the article

So what is a comfortable temperature, 70, 80, 90, or 100?
Who makes that decision, Capers, Casserly, Tony Wyllie?
I saw one person get carted out on a stretcher, were there more? How many?
What did the Health Department have to say about it?
What did the EMS Director have to say about it?

I just love it when bureaucrats get specific and journalist let them off the hook.

Well, thanks for the article, but next time, put a little heart into it or at least come sit with me in the bleachers and feel the heat baby!

Here is the address of the article:
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3360948
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"We receive complaints when the roof is open, and we also receive complaints when the roof is closed," said Tony Wyllie, the Texans vice president of communications. "Moving forward, we will consider the fans' comfort when deciding whether the roof will be open or closed."
I would say the complaints on the roof being closed are due to all the smoke lingering around after they shoot off the fireworks. Hey I got a solution for that. Stop setting off fireworks. We don't need them nor an announcer yelling, "it's another Texans" wanting us to yell "First Down". After the 2nd time he did that, it was old. Hopefully we dont have to yell that all 6 times a game....
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This is really a no-brainer issue to me.

Use some common sense Texans. When it's very hot you don't take chances with the health and safety of your customers.

You built a roof that affords comfort to people in inclement weather. So close it when the weather is boiling hot or raining. PERIOD.

Personally for me if a team is thinking they are going to gain some kind of advantage over the visiting team because their jersey's may be a little warmer you have issues right from the start. Just play ball, take care of your customers that pay big bucks to come watch you and you will make everybody happy!
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Great idea, I called and registered a compliant. If you were uncomfortable call.
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