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Old 09-18-2005   #41
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When he has a line, a pocket, and coaches who know how to call games. Blaming this on Carr right now is simply unfair. Give me the name of ANY QB in the NFL right now that can throw for 300 yards on their back????


Abd you see thats why david will never be a good QB he still is a postwer child in your eyes and when everything is handed to you. you have no idea what it takes to be great when the blame is never on you. but i agree david carr is the greatest QB of all time. its everyones fault but him.
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Old 09-18-2005   #42
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I think Carr, after years of being chased and pummeled, is like a dog who has been treated so badly that he's scared and has a lot of mistrust.
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Get the man a oline like Big Ben and come back and complain about Carr does not produce! Did you see all the time Big Ben had?
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I think Carr, after years of being chased and pummeled, is like a dog who has been treated so badly that he's scared and has a lot of mistrust.
nice parallel, you must have scored well on the SAT
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What other starting QB's would I trade Carr for. How about any of the other 31 starting QB's. Right now, he is worse than horrible.
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Texan2061 "Any other quarterback would be able to handle what Carr cannot with the Texans?" How about Tim Ratty with SF? 4/11 with 3 picks at the half. "Joe" Harrington, 4 pixs today. Dunte Culpepper sure looked good for the Vikings!! How many pixs did he throw?

I did not get to see the game out here, but I did get to watch even the great Peyton Manning struggle today.

8 sacks!!!!

When the offense came out and scored to start the second half to cut the lead to 13, what did the defense do? Oh yeah, they let Pittsburgh march down and score again!!!! How many turnovers did the defense get???? Oh yeah, wasn't it 000000???!!!!

Stop putting it all on Carr and address the MANY problems this team has!!!!
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Hey, domdavis? Still saying the same as you said in this thread?

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Carr has to to be the weakest link here. He needs to go Bye-Bye. I have never seen a more horrible display of play execution from a QB since the great days of Ryan Leif. Trade or Fire Carr, thats what needs to be done. The Texans need a leader who can get this team up out of the sewer. If you want to read some more of my Carr bashing (with a little more thought involved) check out my thread called "The Beginning of the End..."
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Im sure Carr would love that too , because behind any other coaching staff and Offensive line Carr would flurish into a great QB
Agrreed. If Mooch gets his hands on him in that Detroit WCO, they're SB contenders. Wouldn't mind at this point seeing him traded. It's obvios his tallent is waisted under this staff.
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Im sure Carr would love that too , because behind any other coaching staff and Offensive line Carr would flurish into a great QB
That's what I'm thinking.
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He can control certain things, but he's choosing to fail.

Running out of bounds instead of throwing it (lost yards by doing that).

Fumbling when he should have pulled it down.

Delay of game about three times a game so far.
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Running out of the pocket straight INTO a sack!

Ignoring all WR, except those near the sideline he's running to when scrambling
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Carr has to to be the weakest link here. He needs to go Bye-Bye. I have never seen a more horrible display of play execution from a QB since the great days of Ryan Leif. Trade or Fire Carr, thats what needs to be done. The Texans need a leader who can get this team up out of the sewer. If you want to read some more of my Carr bashing (with a little more thought involved) check out my thread called "The Beginning of the End..."
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So you are the MAN! Get serious and start putting your focus towards real issues like our online and our rookie defense, our defense gave up 20 points today and you cant blame one man for that! The D did not give our offense any hope for success! The steelers were backed up inside the 20 when we were only down by 6 when Babin had a false start penalty and the f-agg boy (faggins) gave up that bomb, that was the game! Give the real MAN, DC a chance to win the game! Look at Leftwich against the colts, at least he had a chance to tie the game up wth 60 seconds down by 7. The Jags had a total of 3 points!
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Texan2061 "Any other quarterback would be able to handle what Carr cannot with the Texans?" How about Tim Ratty with SF? 4/11 with 3 picks at the half. "Joe" Harrington, 4 pixs today. Dunte Culpepper sure looked good for the Vikings!! How many pixs did he throw?

I did not get to see the game out here, but I did get to watch even the great Peyton Manning struggle today.

8 sacks!!!!

When the offense came out and scored to start the second half to cut the lead to 13, what did the defense do? Oh yeah, they let Pittsburgh march down and score again!!!! How many turnovers did the defense get???? Oh yeah, wasn't it 000000???!!!!

Stop putting it all on Carr and address the MANY problems this team has!!!!
More than that, Babs jumped off sides and turned a potential come back into a forty yard bomb. At my last count, twenty eight times Carr was under assult on passing plays. Carr is the conveint target in here, but it ain't all David Carr. He'll win somewhere for someone one day. He is a good young qb. It is his misfortune he's playing for a ****** organazation. JMHO.
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As far as Carr flourishing under another team, I seem to remember Tony Banks not doing so bad in his starts. I don't see the reasoning of people on the boards saying put Carr on another team and bam SB contender and MVP. I was high on the guy when we drafted him and supported him for 3 seasons, but the more he plays the more he looks like Ramsey, Boller, and the rest. A lot of the sacks today were on him. He played well at the start of the 3rd when he stepped into the pocket and quick released or when we utilized the play action. Other than that he kept rolling when he didn't have to or stepped right into the block direction. But the whole team needs to be reevaluated not just carr. Armstrong was the only bright spot today.
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Just curious.

Where did Ben R. (not even going to try to spell his last name) go to college?

He is very poised for a young QB. I know it's a product of the Pittsburgh system but the guy just seems to not get rattled. Impressive.
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Just curious.

Where did Ben R. (not even going to try to spell his last name) go to college?

He is very poised for a young QB. I know it's a product of the Pittsburgh system but the guy just seems to not get rattled. Impressive.
Big Ben went to Miami of Ohio. Yet another very talented QB from the MAC. (Lefty, Big Ben, Pennington, Jacobs)
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Thank you for the info.

I had it in my head he went to Louisville but I just knew that was wrong when I sat down and thought about it....

He's impressive. The Steelers are set at QB for a long time now.
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No interceptions. 46 yards rushing. (DD had 59)

Versus: what was it? 8 sacks, 9 rushes? Come on. Let's not turn him into an escape goat.
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hahaha, the only thing handed to him was a few 300 lb d-linemen every week for the first 4 years.
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I would like to see them throw Ragone out there and see what he can do...

He cannot do any worse and I personally think he would do better than Carr if given all the chance Carr as been given...
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