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Old 07-15-2004   #21
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if the fans like them enough to vote for them they have a chance...the pro bowl is nothing but a popularity contest
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Old 07-15-2004   #22
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Greg Jones and Fred Taylor are the exact same bbody type. They are both 6-1, 235. Jones is a younger version of Taylor and Jones will take the job.
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Greg Jones is not nearly as quick or explosive as Taylor. Jones is more akin to a guy like Eddie George or our own ex-Oiler Alonzo Highsmith.
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Greg Jones and Fred Taylor are the exact same bbody type. They are both 6-1, 235.
Jones weighed in at the FSU pro day at 249 lbs. He'll be one of the bigger RB's in the league. I do agree that Jones will take some of Taylor's numbers, mainly in Goal line and short yardage plays in Stacey Mack's old role.
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Hey, but what if, i mean i know the odds are against it(sarcasm), but what happens if Fragile Fred goes down again? Who fills in? LaBrandon Toefield or Greg Jones?
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I'm sure they will handle that with rb by committee. They probably have the most talented stable of backs in the NFL outside of Buffalo (if McGahee is healthy).
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And Greg Jones ran a 4.56 40-yard dash, so he isnt THAT sluggish, just more of a down-hill runner, which is where you wanna go, north and south.
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I never implied he was sluggish. Absolute speed is different than quickness. Barry Sanders wasn't usually the fastest guy on the field but he was always the quickest. Taylor is a freak. He is enormously quick and explosive and a different class of back than Jones. Jones will likely be a fine back in his own right, but the two backs are not very comparable when it comes to quickness and suddenness.
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I was repyling to Lucky about the speed, in the sense that Jones could be more than just a goal line/ short yardage back. But i understand where youre coming from. True but maybe if the conditioning coaches work with Jones and get his weight down to around 235-240 he could aquire some quickness and agility.then they would be mirror images of each other.
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True but maybe if the conditioning coaches work with Jones and get his weight down to around 235-240 he could aquire some quickness and agility.then they would be mirror images of each other.
Jones is not a flabby 249. I think he measured at less than 10% body fat at the combine. He's just a freak.

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True but maybe if the conditioning coaches work with Jones and get his weight down to around 235-240 he could aquire some quickness and agility.then they would be mirror images of each other.
I was gonna respond but Lucky kinda beat me to it. Jones will never be as quick as Taylor. They are just two different styles of backs. As you can see he has no body-fat to lose. He is more of a power back and always will be.
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Just thinking aloud...how great a MLB could Greg Jones have been?
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MAN, He sent that dude from NC to the hospital and he was running the ball! What would happen if he were to tackle someone? Can you say Intensive care unit?
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Don't the players and coaches select the Pro Bowl players?

I think they both have a great chance but isn't it more prestigious to be "All Pro"?
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I'm sure they will handle that with rb by committee. They probably have the most talented stable of backs in the NFL outside of Buffalo (if McGahee is healthy).
I'd have to say that Green Bay is way up there too with Green, Fisher, and Davenport. IMO they would be better than Henry, McGahee, Morris.
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Don't the players and coaches select the Pro Bowl players?

I think they both have a great chance but isn't it more prestigious to be "All Pro"?
Im not sure exactly how it works, but from what i think i know, the players, coaches, and fans all get a vote. I'm just not sure exactly how the weight of the votes are placed. but the fans do matter. I mean, if our vote didnt count, then why would we be voting on NFL.com every year?
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I'm confused.

I goggled the subject and the information I got said the Pro Bowl players were selected by the "players and coaches of each NFL team". It didn't mention fans voting at all.
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Fans, players and coaches select the AFC and NFC All-Stars. Each group's collective vote counted one-third towards determining conference rosters.

So don't count on our guys making it without David Carr and overall team success and/or recognition. People are like that. Just like when they voted Vince Carter on the allstar basketball team, people will vote for a familiar name instead of looking at actual stats.
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I've voted for Pro Bowl this past year. I think anyone can vote.
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SORRY! i didnt mean confrence! I meant division. MY BAD! Domanick Davis Is much better than Edgerrin James. Maybe not Fred but is Better than Edge.
i don't if i'm reading this from a canes perspective, but this is the dumbest thing i heard all week. Edge this season will be a top 10 back again. hopefully dd can be one to.
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