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Old 09-14-2005   #41
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I still can't figure out why you macho guys think the heat will only effect the Steelers and not the Texans! Just because they will be wearing black?? They are TOUGH, and I don't think that will bother them what-so-ever!
Funny, it worked for us against the Raiders last year and it worked for Miami against Denver last Sunday:

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"We knew it was going to be difficult to come in here and deal with the elements in their backyard," said coach Mike Shanahan, now 10-3 in season openers with Denver and Oakland.
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I'm not sure how much temperature really helps one team over another. Remember when the Texans were heavy underdogs and went up to play Pittsburgh on a freezing day? I think they ended up beating the Steelers 24-6 or something like that. Both teams have to play in the same conditions.
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I'm not sure how much temperature really helps one team over another. Remember when the Texans were heavy underdogs and went up to play Pittsburgh on a freezing day? I think they ended up beating the Steelers 24-6 or something like that. Both teams have to play in the same conditions.
It matters a lot.

I was a really good Tennis player in High School (28-0 my sophmore year, JV team).
I moved up to the Chicago area from Houston in the middle of High School. I started training indoors with the guys from the team. I could beat everyone who was not a Senior pretty easily. They told me that once the spring season began it was going to be different because it could be quite cold and windy. We went outdoors and I lost 8 straight matches to opponents I had crushed indoors. I was shocked how much the cooler weather and wind affected my play, Eventually I adapted and began to win consistently but it took a while to adjust. Also at the end of the season as summer approached those "hot days" didn't seem very hot to me after living in Houston.
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It isn't the thoughts of macho guys. You may not think it will bother them but history shows it WILL have an effect.

Fact - Historically Cold Weather teams struggle in september in the heat against southern teams.

The Texans need every edge they can get.
There is no color hotter than BLACK. It absorbs light/heat.
There is no color cooler than WHITE. It relects light/heat.

Air Conditioning is for the movie theater, not football.

A stadium can still be very very loud with the roof open. Some of the loudest crowds in the NFL play in open roof stadiums.
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If you can't take the sun, sit in the shade. There's at least half a stadium's worth of seats that never see a ray of sun. The roof was for the rodeo anyway.
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I was in Chicago last year for the Texans game and will never again complain about the sun or it being too hot. And Yes, I sit in the sun 3/4 of the game.
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not sun, heat, wind, rain, or even a tornado will save us from total carnage this sunday... it's hard for the steelers defense to overheat in just 3 plays.
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The roof was designed for INCLIMENT weather, and the rodeo. They close it for a THREAT of rain, and leave it open when it's so hot it's dangerous. Doesn't make much sense!! To bad Reliant is NOT an open air stadium. That would make sitting in the sun a little more tolerable. A hole in the roof just don't cut it for air circulation.
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What about the four home games the Texans lost last year to the BROWNS, COLTS, CHARGERS, PACKERS?

The Browns, Colts and Packers aren't necessarily teams that are use to playing in heat, yet they were able to beat the Texans last year.

The heat may effect the outcome of the game, but I doubt that it will be a noticeable advantage that the Texans will be able to use to win the game.
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Everybody take a guess what the Texan players would say if they had the option for open or closed. Disregard the standard "I'll play anyway they have it yada yada yada" answer - what would they tell their buddies in a bar?

My guess: closed
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The heat may effect the outcome of the game, but I doubt that it will be a noticeable advantage that the Texans will be able to use to win the game.
Ummm, thanks for joining us. Did I say heat was kryptonite?--no, just that it may help. Got a reason not to use any advantage?
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What about the four home games the Texans lost last year to the BROWNS, COLTS, CHARGERS, PACKERS?

The Browns, Colts and Packers aren't necessarily teams that are use to playing in heat, yet they were able to beat the Texans last year.

The heat may effect the outcome of the game, but I doubt that it will be a noticeable advantage that the Texans will be able to use to win the game.
We're talking about late summer heat (mainly noon games in September) being the factor here and in places like Miami.

Chargers game, September 12, 90 something degrees outside - roof closed for fan comfort - weather a non factor.

Packers game, November 21, night game. Roof closed because it rained 4 hours before game time. weather a non factor.

Colts game, December 12, 68 degrees roof open - weather a non-factor.

Browns game, January 2 - 72 degrees - roof closed for some wussy reason I can't remember. Must have been raining in Lubbock.
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It isn't the thoughts of macho guys. You may not think it will bother them but history shows it WILL have an effect.

Fact - Historically Cold Weather teams struggle in september in the heat against southern teams.

The Texans need every edge they can get.
There is no color hotter than BLACK. It absorbs light/heat.
There is no color cooler than WHITE. It relects light/heat.

Air Conditioning is for the movie theater, not football.

A stadium can still be very very loud with the roof open. Some of the loudest crowds in the NFL play in open roof stadiums.

Actually sound escapes an open air stadium better than a closed stadium. The Metrodome is supposed to be one of the loudest venues in the NFL. I am sure Reliant is louder with the roof closed. The real debate should be what affects the opposition most? If neither does then close the roof for the children and elderly that come to the game. I know a tough 35 year old blue collar worker can stand the heat, but there are other people who paid money to watch the game that are more sensitive to the heat and deserve to watch the game in tolerable conditions. IMHO
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The sound level will not help us when half of the crowd are Steelers fans and they have more to cheer about than we do.
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The sound level will not help us when half of the crowd are Steelers fans and they have more to cheer about than we do.
What makes you think that?? Texan fans can yell louder than a Steeler fan any day!!!! We still have plenty to yell about!! We have football back in Houston!!! Our team had a BAD game, that doesn't mean they are done for the season! Have a little faith!!
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The sound level will not help us when half of the crowd are Steelers fans and they have more to cheer about than we do.
You must be thinking of Cowboy Stadium... concerning "half the crowd" of Steelers.
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The sound level will not help us when half of the crowd are Steelers fans and they have more to cheer about than we do.
I seriously doubt half the crowd will be Steeler fans....I expect a strong contingent of Steeler faithful to be there...but it is the Texans home opener....a lot of Houston fans still love to see the Houston team play Pittsburgh...and Texan fans are better fans than their dallas counterparts....so i don't expect 20,000 like there was in dallas last year....
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I seriously doubt half the crowd will be Steeler fans....I expect a strong contingent of Steeler faithful to be there...but it is the Texans home opener....a lot of Houston fans still love to see the Houston team play Pittsburgh...and Texan fans are better fans than their dallas counterparts....so i don't expect 20,000 like there was in dallas last year....
Agreed. I anticipate many Steeler faithful to come. Y'all Steeler fans are welcome to my tailgate too. All we ask is that the taunting be in good fun (no disrespect) and you bring some cold beer or whatever you like to drink, we will take care of the rest. PM me if you want more info. We host all opposing fans who want a good time, and show respect. Texans hospitality is second to none!

If we were to allow that many opponents (20k) in our stadium, who would be to blame? Should not be THAT many tickets available for them to purchase! (we have many who Ebay or StubHub their tix for profit for the larger games, that we can't control. We can comment on it, but not control it. I personally sell any extra seats I get to fellow fans @ face, but not everyone does.)
We have many Texans faithful who fill our home, so I am not too concerned about a Steeler fan takeover like Dullass.
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Ummm, thanks for joining us. Did I say heat was kryptonite?--no, just that it may help. Got a reason not to use any advantage?

By any chance do you know where we can find some kryptonite?

Just wondering...
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I still can't figure out why you macho guys think the heat will only effect the Steelers and not the Texans! Just because they will be wearing black??
Their bench will be baking in the sun all day, too...high noon heat. Heck, when they sit down, even their rears will be cooking like eggs on a griddle.

No doubt part of the design of the stadium that the home team is in shade the entire game, regardless if it's a 12:00 or 3:00 game.

The Texans still have to play their A-game (whatever/wherever that is), but keeping the opposing team in the sun might help to wear them out by the fourth quarter.


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The Houston heat and humidity doesn't sound like a picnic, and it might afford some slight advantage to the Texans, all things being equal. If I were a Texans fan, my concern would be that Pittsburgh runs a ball-control offense with lots of rushing. Last year, the Steelers were wearing out teams in ideal conditions. If the Pittsburgh rushing game is on track at all, the heat and humidity may take its greatest toll on the Texans defense.

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