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Old 09-13-2005   #21
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I thought the texans would finish the season at around a .500 record -- but not anymore. Some of your players look like they've lost the desire to play. The texan organization should not trade Carr. For one, they will get little-to no value trading him. Maybe a 5th rounder. You all will probably have a top 10-5 pick in the draft. If Leinart or Jacobs falls that far -- take 'em. If not, and either Ferguson or Winston is still their -- take 'em. That's how I see it. You all still have a stud at WR and CB. So who knows.
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If we can keep the same line for at least 2 years straight then we can see if Carr is the man or not.
This year was the best opportunity for that, but we didn't do it. We should have kept playing the younger player and given him the chance to make the 2nd to 3rd year improvement that Pitts had.

There is still a good chance that will happen at some point though.
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What about taking Vince Young?

I'm an old aggie, I can't believe I just said that.
I would take Vince with a 3rd or Reggie McNeal with a 5th. No Aggie bashing here, that is my opinion. I am a Longhorn living in my wife's Aggie World.
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If I'm McNair...

I fire Capers after we get blown out at home against the Steelers.

I trade Carr for some first round draft picks, or for a better o lineman that's in the league right now.

I tell the new coach to lose every game the rest of the season. So, basically just keep things the way they are.

Then, with the first pick in next year's draft I take Matt Leinart of USC.

If I got a high first rounder with my Carr trade, I package other draft picks and trade up to get a top 10 o lineman in what is known as an o lineman rich draft.

We get a QB who has proven he can win under pressure. We get a new coach. We get a better o lineman or two, and we start this thing over again with a better situation than what we have at the moment.
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lIsten to this guy, give away the guy that has been taking all the snaps and get a olinmen for him. you better hope this Olinemen can throw the ball as well.
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lIsten to this guy, give away the guy that has been taking all the snaps and get a olinmen for him. you better hope this Olinemen can throw the ball as well.
Haven't you heard? Our coaches like lineman that can play more than one position. Of course, I thought he meant tackle/guard/center.
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Bringing in another QB is NOT the answer. Fixing the reason why our QB struggles is the way to go IMO. Bringing in a rookie QB or even a veteran will not make the O Line block better or our recievers run better routs. Confidence is what is need all around.
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How about we let Capers do what he does best and coach our def. and get anyone that is smart enough the call plays for the Off and get rid of Palmer. Yes a new o-line will help but if you run every 1st down and donot have a creative bone in your body the def will handle you all the time. Our off. just needs to be ran better.
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do not taje Leinart, do not take Leinart, do not take Leinart

alright, I feel much better now. Please, no more soft west coast QB's.
carr is not soft. he's taking a pounding from day 1 and still plays. half the other qb's would have quit by now.
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Bringing in another QB is NOT the answer. Fixing the reason why our QB struggles is the way to go IMO. Bringing in a rookie QB or even a veteran will not make the O Line block better or our recievers run better routs. Confidence is what is need all around.
Hate to say it, but bringing in a rookie (leinart or Jacobs) will be safer than keeping Carr the starter.
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I must have missed it somewhere so help me out here, What exactly is wrong with David Carr? Everybody knows OCoordinators make or break QBs. Ask Steve Young.
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I must have missed it somewhere so help me out here, What exactly is wrong with David Carr? Everybody knows OCoordinators make or break QBs. Ask Steve Young.
If you think that he is worth this from a prodcution stand point, then there is nothing wrong with him:
Player Name Signed Thru Base Salary Allocated Bonus Pay Total 2005 Cap

Carr, David 2005* $5,500,000 $2,310,326 $7,810,326
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I must have missed it somewhere so help me out here, What exactly is wrong with David Carr? Everybody knows OCoordinators make or break QBs. Ask Steve Young.
Carr can't read a defense and locks onto his reciever. That's what wrong.
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Im pretty sure the Bengals are happy with their soft west coast QB.
Why would they be? Carr was much better than Palmer last year, and you guys want to get rid of him.
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Carr can't read a defense and locks onto his reciever. That's what wrong.
Let's see how well Peyton Manning reads defense and goes through his progressions when he has between one and two seconds every time he drops back.
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