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GP · 09-13-2005

If I'm McNair...

I fire Capers after we get blown out at home against the Steelers.

I trade Carr for some first round draft picks, or for a better o lineman that's in the league right now.

I tell the new coach to lose every game the rest of the season. So, basically just keep things the way they are.

Then, with the first pick in next year's draft I take Matt Leinart of USC.

If I got a high first rounder with my Carr trade, I package other draft picks and trade up to get a top 10 o lineman in what is known as an o lineman rich draft.

We get a QB who has proven he can win under pressure. We get a new coach. We get a better o lineman or two, and we start this thing over again with a better situation than what we have at the moment.

Grid · 09-13-2005

The fact that I would be incredibly happy if that happened makes me wanna cry.

poor Carr.

**eriadoc** · 09-13-2005

We spent a high first round pick on Carr and have (potentially) ruined him. Who in their right mind would give us anything better than a 4th round pick for him at this point? Very few player-for-player trades are made in the NFL, and almost no trades are made after the start of the season. And drafting Leinart next year would result in the same thing you're seeing now, just with a different name on the jersey.

GP · 09-13-2005

Just trying to have some fun...

Joy killer.

09-13-2005

The lineman we trade for has just had shoulder surgery but is checked out by our doctors and they say he'll be ready for the next season, we get 3 other lineman from other teams that we think are very good but turn out to be just expendable cast offs. Leinhart comes in a can't get the protection he needs and tends to rush things because he is on his back all the time. Having being used to time to throw, Leinhart starts get happy feet. Lienhart gets injured.

Man this sounds so familiar......

Elite · 09-13-2005

honestly at this point we would be lucky to get a 4th rounder for carr honestly i dont think there's any one that believes he will amount to anything. except some few remainding fans here that are in denial i say if we can get a 4th rounder lets take it and learn a lesson from it. and rebuild thats all we can do.

Doom Capers · 09-13-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpshafer_1976

If I'm McNair...

I fire Capers after we get blown out at home against the Steelers.

I trade Carr for some first round draft picks, or for a better o lineman that's in the league right now.

I tell the new coach to lose every game the rest of the season. So, basically just keep things the way they are.

Then, with the first pick in next year's draft I take Matt Leinart of USC.

If I got a high first rounder with my Carr trade, I package other draft picks and trade up to get a top 10 o lineman in what is known as an o lineman rich draft.

We get a QB who has proven he can win under pressure. We get a new coach. We get a better o lineman or two, and we start this thing over again with a better situation than what we have at the moment.

Start all over and ruin another poor kid's bright future?

hot pickle · 09-13-2005

trade carr for Jason Peters then maybe we will get a receiver that can take pressure off Dre and a blocker that can block

**Runner** · 09-13-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by SESupergenius

we get 3 other lineman from other teams that we think are very good but turn out to be just expendable cast offs.
Man this sounds so familiar......

4 counting Riley.

Texas_Thrill · 09-13-2005

Apparently our management didn't get the MEMO since the beginning of football that the games are won in the TRENCHES....and LOST.

**Kaiser Toro** · 09-13-2005

do not taje Leinart, do not take Leinart, do not take Leinart

alright, I feel much better now. Please, no more soft west coast QB's.

Reddevil63 · 09-13-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro

do not taje Leinart, do not take Leinart, do not take Leinart

alright, I feel much better now. Please, no more soft west coast QB's.

Im pretty sure the Bengals are happy with their soft west coast QB.

Blake · 09-13-2005

Lets just hope we can get Winston or D'Brick next year, and maybe a free agent guard, and hopefully Hodgdon will be ready to take over. I like Wade, Pitts, and Wiegert.

LT D'BrickShaw Ferguson
LG Chester Pitts
C Drew Hodgdon
RG Zach Weigert
RT Todd Wade

Cut Bradford. Replace with Mathis. Gaff in the slot. Norris, Davis in the back with Morency and Wells backing up.

2nd Round, we trade up with our extra 3rd, and get Marcedes Lewis, TE from UCLA.

WildBlackBear32 · 09-13-2005

Paging Tony Bosselli....

LBC_Justin · 09-13-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro

do not taje Leinart, do not take Leinart, do not take Leinart

alright, I feel much better now. Please, no more soft west coast QB's.

Yeah we wouldn't want to get a guy like say....John Elway.

HardKnockTexan · 09-13-2005

Heard Patrick Ramsey is asking to be traded.... he cant do any worse than Carr....

texans coach · 09-13-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_ROCK

Lets just hope we can get Winston or D'Brick next year, and maybe a free agent guard, and hopefully Hodgdon will be ready to take over. I like Wade, Pitts, and Wiegert.

LT D'BrickShaw Ferguson
LG Chester Pitts
C Drew Hodgdon
RG Zach Weigert
RT Todd Wade

Cut Bradford. Replace with Mathis. Gaff in the slot. Norris, Davis in the back with Morency and Wells backing up.

2nd Round, we trade up with our extra 3rd, and get Marcedes Lewis, TE from UCLA.

Mathis could never replace Bradford because hes too small, doesnt know the playbook, and if he did replace Bradford, he would end up just like bradford, no passes thrown his way during the game and no looks. Now then what would your excuse be? Its that simple.

pv1999 · 09-13-2005

This is just the first game. And the first game this year that all the starters have been asked to play hard. That is the trade off for keeping your starters fresh (and uninjured) through the preseason. The rhythm will come, the chemistry is there.

The O-line is new together they will not look good every sunday. Just like Matthews, Munchak and those guys when they first started and got the snot knocked out of Gifford Nielsen and Cody Carlson. And remember how Warren Moon used to have to scramble a lot in the beginning. If we can keep the same line for at least 2 years straight then we can see if Carr is the man or not. Or we can just pull an uncle drayton and trade away all the talent.

Blake · 09-13-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by texans coach

Mathis could never replace Bradford because hes too small, doesnt know the playbook, and if he did replace Bradford, he would end up just like bradford, no passes thrown his way during the game and no looks. Now then what would your excuse be? Its that simple.

Do you even know what you are talking about?

The point of the post was to address the O-line. And to your comment about the playbook, he can learn! Do you think he threw his playbook away?

Bayern · 09-13-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro

do not taje Leinart, do not take Leinart, do not take Leinart

alright, I feel much better now. Please, no more soft west coast QB's.

What about taking Vince Young?

I'm an old aggie, I can't believe I just said that.

09-13-2005	#1
GP Go Texans! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TEXAS! Posts: 17,747 Rep Power: 50138	Trade Carr for o lineman. Lose rest of games. Draft Leinart. If I'm McNair... I fire Capers after we get blown out at home against the Steelers. I trade Carr for some first round draft picks, or for a better o lineman that's in the league right now. I tell the new coach to lose every game the rest of the season. So, basically just keep things the way they are. Then, with the first pick in next year's draft I take Matt Leinart of USC. If I got a high first rounder with my Carr trade, I package other draft picks and trade up to get a top 10 o lineman in what is known as an o lineman rich draft. We get a QB who has proven he can win under pressure. We get a new coach. We get a better o lineman or two, and we start this thing over again with a better situation than what we have at the moment.

09-13-2005	#6
Elite Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 217 Rep Power: 0	honestly at this point we would be lucky to get a 4th rounder for carr honestly i dont think there's any one that believes he will amount to anything. except some few remainding fans here that are in denial i say if we can get a 4th rounder lets take it and learn a lesson from it. and rebuild thats all we can do. __________________ David Carr For President

09-13-2005	#11
Kaiser Toro Native Mod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Straight Outta Austin Age: 43 Posts: 15,885 Rep Power: 19756	do not taje Leinart, do not take Leinart, do not take Leinart alright, I feel much better now. Please, no more soft west coast QB's. __________________ Texans 2012: Kidz II Men

09-13-2005	#13
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,580 Rep Power: 14926	Lets just hope we can get Winston or D'Brick next year, and maybe a free agent guard, and hopefully Hodgdon will be ready to take over. I like Wade, Pitts, and Wiegert. LT D'BrickShaw Ferguson LG Chester Pitts C Drew Hodgdon RG Zach Weigert RT Todd Wade Cut Bradford. Replace with Mathis. Gaff in the slot. Norris, Davis in the back with Morency and Wells backing up. 2nd Round, we trade up with our extra 3rd, and get Marcedes Lewis, TE from UCLA. __________________

09-13-2005	#18
pv1999 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cypress Age: 41 Posts: 177 Rep Power: 9	you guys are sad... This is just the first game. And the first game this year that all the starters have been asked to play hard. That is the trade off for keeping your starters fresh (and uninjured) through the preseason. The rhythm will come, the chemistry is there. The O-line is new together they will not look good every sunday. Just like Matthews, Munchak and those guys when they first started and got the snot knocked out of Gifford Nielsen and Cody Carlson. And remember how Warren Moon used to have to scramble a lot in the beginning. If we can keep the same line for at least 2 years straight then we can see if Carr is the man or not. Or we can just pull an uncle drayton and trade away all the talent. __________________ We're on a mission from GOD.

09-13-2005	#2
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	The fact that I would be incredibly happy if that happened makes me wanna cry. poor Carr.

09-13-2005	#3
eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,309 Rep Power: 69005	We spent a high first round pick on Carr and have (potentially) ruined him. Who in their right mind would give us anything better than a 4th round pick for him at this point? Very few player-for-player trades are made in the NFL, and almost no trades are made after the start of the season. And drafting Leinart next year would result in the same thing you're seeing now, just with a different name on the jersey.

09-13-2005	#5
SESupergenius Guest Posts: n/a	The lineman we trade for has just had shoulder surgery but is checked out by our doctors and they say he'll be ready for the next season, we get 3 other lineman from other teams that we think are very good but turn out to be just expendable cast offs. Leinhart comes in a can't get the protection he needs and tends to rush things because he is on his back all the time. Having being used to time to throw, Leinhart starts get happy feet. Lienhart gets injured. Man this sounds so familiar......

09-13-2005	#8
hot pickle السلام عليكم Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Age: 24 Posts: 2,433 Rep Power: 2073	trade carr for Jason Peters then maybe we will get a receiver that can take pressure off Dre and a blocker that can block

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Texas_Thrill Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: H-Town stomping once again! Age: 33 Posts: 1,473 Rep Power: 11	Apparently our management didn't get the MEMO since the beginning of football that the games are won in the TRENCHES....and LOST.

09-13-2005	#14
WildBlackBear32 All Pro Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Maine Age: 26 Posts: 967 Rep Power: 9	Paging Tony Bosselli....

09-13-2005	#16
HardKnockTexan All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 33 Posts: 576 Rep Power: 27	Heard Patrick Ramsey is asking to be traded.... he cant do any worse than Carr....

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