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Old 09-13-2005   #41
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Ok I'm working on some ideas for my signature ....


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1) Tag, you're it
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3) Ok, who had 4 in the sack pool???
4) Why is David always in a bad mood????
5) I thought you had the linebacker
They're all good but I love #1, it's simple, but very funny!
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Ok I'm working on some ideas for my signature ....


here's a few ....


1) Tag, you're it
2) LOOOOOOOOKOUTTTTT
3) Ok, who had 4 in the sack pool???
4) Why is David always in a bad mood????
5) I thought you had the linebacker
6) Patty-cake, patty-cake, baker's man...
7) EWWWWWWWWWW COOTIES!
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Old 09-13-2005   #43
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6) Patty-cake, patty-cake, baker's man...
7) EWWWWWWWWWW COOTIES!
8) AFLAC!
9) I just saved a bunch of money by switching to GEICO!
#7 is good but the others don't convey the point .... personally I think I'm going with #5 ....
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I understand this, but Peyton has much more time and a much more stable pocket than Carr. I specifically watched for this during the game. It is apparent.

This is true ... Pey-Me-A-Ton has MUCH more time ..... If you dont believe it next Sunday sit and watch both games with a stop watch in your hand ..... You will be surprised
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This is true ... Pey-Me-A-Ton has MUCH more time ..... If you dont believe it next Sunday sit and watch both games with a stop watch in your hand ..... You will be surprised
Sure he does, but he also knows how to use a pump fake and how to look off defenders, and he also knows how to call audibles...A lot here complain about the playcalling but a lot of the time it is Carr audibling to a run play at the line...not to get off topic or anything...
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hey bigtex how about we go over to the Jags board and rag on them about getting swept last year? We're good for 6 weeks or more on that ....

LOL! I know I shouldn't condone trolling, but this made me laugh.
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Now your sig would be funny if it was coach Palmer talking to DC about the line and he said I have good news.. "you are signing a big name tackle?" no I just saved a bunch of money by switching to geico. Maybe I should do commercials.

Anyways, I don't buy the concussion theory I think he may have have held his head like that to ensure the flag was thrown. He did have the presnce of mind to take the pylon on his td scramble. He looked out of it because he was following AJ down the field. We need to go back to a 3 rec. set more often you can tell he doesnt have much confidence in his TEs and unless its a fly route he has no confidence in Bradford either. That tells me He is trying but outside of DD and AJ no one has really stepped up and be come a second go to guy. Id like them to start gaff instead of bradford at #2 see if that helps maybe someone that works back to the ball and goes over the middle will help. That and totally scrapping the zone blocking scheme.
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Sure he does, but he also knows how to use a pump fake and how to look off defenders, and he also knows how to call audibles...A lot here complain about the playcalling but a lot of the time it is Carr audibling to a run play at the line...not to get off topic or anything...
Pump fake .... He doesnt have time to pump fake !
Look off defenders ? give me a break , no one but AJ and DD can catch not to mention he doesnt have time to look at more than one option .
You would audible to a Running play too if you had been sacked 140 times in the last 3 seasons .
It all boils down to TIME ....Carr doesnt have enough . :brickwall

Carr went to Casserly in the off-season asking that the line be addresed ..... instead of upgrading their personel , putting money into it they change the protections ? Three step drop ? They called it what , Twice ? That sure did address the problem . Come on Casserly ..... Give Carr what he needs on the O-line and give him another reciever too ....

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hey bigtex how about we go over to the Jags board and rag on them about getting swept last year? We're good for 6 weeks or more on that ....
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LOL! I know I shouldn't condone trolling, but this made me laugh.
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Dont leave out WR not paying attention or being cowards ( thats you Bradford)
I agree that Bradford sucks and should be on a Greyhound out of town, but Gaffney got hit by that ball because he was just as surprised as everyone else watching the game that Carr threw to someone other than AJ.
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Carr went to Casserly in the off-season asking that the line be addresed ..... instead of upgrading their personel , putting money into it they change the protections ? Three step drop ? They called it what , Twice ? That sure did address the problem .
That reminds me - they are pointing to the running backs being to blame for 4 sacks, I think that indicates a change too. I don't remember from last year if we left our RBs in that frequently to pass block. Anybody know?
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Ok I'm working on some ideas for my signature ....


here's a few ....


1) Tag, you're it
2) LOOOOOOOOKOUTTTTT
3) Ok, who had 4 in the sack pool???
4) Why is David always in a bad mood????
5) I thought you had the linebacker
You forgot the most obvious one: *ring my bell*
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I agree that Bradford sucks and should be on a Greyhound out of town, but Gaffney got hit by that ball because he was just as surprised as everyone else watching the game that Carr threw to someone other than AJ.
But you cant throw to people who arent gonna pay attention, can you? That was a big play he blew, it would have been a first down at a critical time and to not even turn your head toward the QB is unacceptable. Im not saying we should fire the guy but just because Carr doesnt throw to him alot doesnt mean he has an excuse when its thrown his way and that happens.
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But you cant throw to people who arent gonna pay attention, can you?
You have no idea whose fault that was. WR's do not run down the field looking back the whole time. They run a route and are supposed to look back at a certain point. Obviously there was miscommunication on that play, but it may very well be Carr sent the ball off before Gaffney was supposed to look. Not saying it is Carr's fault, but you can't just assume it is either one's fault.
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But also when your playing against a team that has put pressure on you all day and you break open over the middle you have to look to your QB once. Thats what WR in the NFL do find soft spots and let the QB find you. As I said I dont htink he should be fired, nor do I blame it soley on him, but you have to pay attention in a football game. Somtimes your QB needs to throw it a little early and you have to find it. Thats what you have to do.
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I want to know why we didn't do anything to improve our offensive line??????
The question many of us have been asking since 4/23. :brickwall

The gellin' line spin on this is not working anymore. Need a new angle to try to feed to us fans. I suggest fixing the problem instead of asking someone in Marketing to come in and put a new name and smoke screen on it.

But I am just one fan, what do I know.
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IF I was Pittsburg's defensive coordinator, I would have 3 notes on a clipboard;

a) defense off tackle play Texans will run on almost every first down (99% of the time)

b) prepare for screen or draw plays on second and long (50% of the time)

c) hammer Carr on third down and long (80% of the time)


TRANSLATION: I am pissed that the tight end position got more yardage than our wide outs.... I think Rivers and Bruener both caught one a piece. Last time I thought about it...wouldn't passing plays to the tight end keep a nickle package spread out (hurts an AJ double team) and a defensive ends from flying in on the blitz?

I guess I am saying that we should throw it to the tight end on seam patterns and quick outs into the flat... then rinse and repeat.

And for God's sake, TRY passing ON FIRST DOWN.!!! Defensive O LB's expect our tight end to block when 99.9999 % of the time we run off tackle on first down. Even the retarded can figure out this sort of predictable offensive play calling.

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And for God's sake, TRY passing ON FIRST DOWN.!!! Defensive O LB's expect our tight end to block when 99.9999 % of the time we run off tackle on first down. Even the retarded can figure out this sort of predictable offensive play calling.
From what I understand, they did pass more than run on first down last Sunday.

They just weren't successful at it.
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From what I understand, they did pass more than run on first down last Sunday.

They just weren't successful at it.

I thought it was ONLY after they were behind in the 2nd half... again predictable. And yes, you are right...they didn't suceed with that brilliant strategy either.
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And for God's sake, TRY passing ON FIRST DOWN.!!! Defensive O LB's expect our tight end to block when 99.9999 % of the time we run off tackle on first down. Even the retarded can figure out this sort of predictable offensive play calling.


This should throw a wrench in your play calling theory ....

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I've seen the issue of "why the Texans didn't throw on first down" brought up in a few different threads. The numbers don't lie--that's just not true. It's hard to believe because the results of those first-down pass attempts were (with only one exception) totally forgettable, BUT...

Here's a refresher from the game's stats:
(NOTE: Sacks are credited as attempts to pass)

FIRST HALF
1) The first offensive play from scrimmage was a dump pass to DD. Series was 3-and-out.
2) Next drive's first play was a 3 yard run to the left by DD. Pick ended the drive before any more first downs.
3) Next drive was 1 play: the DD fumble.
4) Then the touchdown drive. 4 total first downs (3 incomplete passes, 1 complete pass to Wells)
5) On the 1-play drive to end the half, DD ran up the middle on the only down.

SECOND HALF
1) Opening drive had 3 first downs (19yd pass to Bruener, a DD run, and a sack).
2) Next drive was split (a DD run and a sack).
3) Third drive was split (a DD run and an INT)
4) Final drive of 3rd Quarter had 1 first down: a 0-yard DD run.
5) Texans' first drive of 4th Quarter featured 2 first down plays: a DD run and a sack/fumble.
6) 3-and-out drive followed, with an incomplete pass on 1st down.
7) Final drive had a Carr scramble and an incomplete pass on 1st downs. Drive ended by INT on the ensuing 2nd down.

First half first-down plays: 5 passes/3 runs
Second half first-down plays: 7 passes/6 runs*
OVERALL ON 1ST DOWN: 12 passes/9 runs*

* I counted the scramble as a run, which is obviously debatable, but it doesn't affect the run-more-than-pass debate.

Its not the run / pass theory ..... The players DONT fit the system , Its as simple as that . This is NOT a run between the tackles team , the skill position players are MUCH more effective IN SPACE :brickwall

IM begining to think ITS NOT Palmers fualt but more of the blame should fall on Capers ..... He wants a POWER RUNNING GAME and DOESNT have the personel to do that .
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I thought it was ONLY after they were behind in the 2nd half... again predictable. And yes, you are right...they didn't suceed with that brilliant strategy either.
Information from an insightful analysis by Vinny (all of our first downs listed here):

First series:1-10-HOU30(9:19) D.Carr pass to D.Davis to HST 32 for 2 yards (J.Posey). Dump pass right, caught at HST 31.

Second series: 1-10-HOU19(1:38) D.Davis left tackle to HST 22 for 3 yards

Third series: (13:51) D.Davis up the middle to HST 27 for no gain

Fourth series: 1-10-HOU25(11:01) D.Carr pass incomplete to A.Johnson

1-10-HOU44(10:08) D.Carr pass incomplete to C.Bradford

1-10-BUF20(9:09) A.Johnson right tackle to BUF 18 for 2 yards

1-2-BUF2(7:26) PENALTY on HST-D.Carr, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 2 - No Play.1-7-BUF7(7:16) D.Carr pass incomplete to D.Davis.

5th series: halftime

6th series: 1-10-HOU29(14:54) D.Carr pass to M.Bruener to HST 48 for 19 yards

1-10-BUF38(12:55) D.Carr sacked at BUF 48 for -10 yards

7th series: 1-10-HOU44(9:47) D.Davis up the middle to HST 49 for 5 yards

1-10-BUF44(8:28) D.Carr sacked at HST 47 for -9 yards

8th series: 1-10-HOU41(4:22) D.Davis left guard to HST 44 for 3 yards

1-10-BUF45(2:58) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by T.Vincent at BUF -1

9th series: 1-10-HOU20(:43) D.Davis left guard to HST 20 for no gain

10th series: 1-10-HOU20(10:41) D.Davis left tackle pushed ob at HST 27 for 7 yards

1-10-HOU31(9:43) D.Carr sacked at HST 23 for -8 yards

11th series: 1-10-HOU26(7:06) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass incomplete to J.Gaffney

12th series: 1-10-HOU12(1:53) D.Carr right end ran ob at HST 15 for 3 yards. Trips shotgun. Obvious passing situation. Carr scrambles right and runs out of bounds.

1-10-HOU25(1:33) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass incomplete to A.Johnson

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