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Old 09-14-2005   #101
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I noticed the poll on this web site shows the 96.5% of the people responding feel Capers has to go at some point. I find that interesting given all of the people who have been making excuses for Capers. Only 3.5 % basically are for no change. That is awfully one sided.
down by 15 points, 5 minutes left in the game, your offense has not moved the ball well all day, 4th down 3yds to go....what to do? That killed him for me... apparantly he is devoid of all logic.
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i would like to see palmer promoted to the head coaching job if capers is let go. Then we can see who is holding this offense back. i guarantee you it would open up in a big way. Palmer was never ever a conservative play caller unit he came on board under capers. The fact is this season will really have to go bad for this all to happen, and i really think this team will do alright this year, starting with a good game against the steelers.
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down by 15 points, 5 minutes left in the game, your offense has not moved the ball well all day, 4th down 3yds to go....what to do? That killed him for me... apparantly he is devoid of all logic.
Keep the game close. Take what the opponent gives you. Play for field position. That is the logic.

Good philosophy if you have a dominant defense which this team has never had. The game has passed the man by. It's time for an innovative, creative coach that can light a fire under our million dollar babies.
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I'm not a fan of changing coaches during the season.

There are people above Capers. They need to figure out how to motivate him to make adjustments.

When I was in management (briefly), I learned that it all starts at the top.
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continuity is key, Capers is a class person & excellent defensive mind which means he excells in destruction. by the time this season is complete then we can acess the damage and make changes as needed
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There are people above Capers. They need to figure out how to motivate him to make adjustments.
Exactly. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would like to see McNair be more like Jerry Jones and be in Capers face all the time, at least for now, and see what happens when he feels that kind of pressure from the owner.
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Exactly. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would like to see McNair be more like Jerry Jones and be in Capers face all the time, at least for now, and see what happens when he feels that kind of pressure from the owner.
Speaking of which...has anyone been wondering where our fearless leader has been? I would have liked to have heard his take on what went down at Buffalo? Actually, I was kind of hoping he would come out with a vote of confidence speech about how Capers is great, and he is his coach all the way. That way I could have been sure he would be fired.
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Exactly. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would like to see McNair be more like Jerry Jones and be in Capers face all the time, at least for now, and see what happens when he feels that kind of pressure from the owner.
Extreme...yet interesting thought....However; it could aslo backfire on us in that we scare off potential HC candidiates and make Capers and staff more mistake prone...Could that be possible
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We can all speculate about who we should have picked in the draft for the past 4 yrs, what we should have done from day one, and how we would have changed this ball club for the better till we are blue in the face.

Unfortunatly, we at this time have to play the waiting game, hope Carr makes it through the Pitt. game in one piece, and that the team at least has a decent showing.

Depending on what out come of that game is...., will more than likely determine the fate of this team and staff for the rest of the season. I just hope that whatever does happen this weekend. Mr. Mcnair steps in and does right by this team. I feel like if things continue to get worse and no changes are made....we may lose our best players either to injury or just plain ol wanting to get away from the nightmare.
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We can all speculate about who we should have picked in the draft for the past 4 yrs, what we should have done from day one, and how we would have changed this ball club for the better till we are blue in the face.

Unfortunatly, we at this time have to play the waiting game, hope Carr makes it through the Pitt. game in one piece, and that the team at least has a decent showing.

Depending on what out come of that game is...., will more than likely determine the fate of this team and staff for the rest of the season. I just hope that whatever does happen this weekend. Mr. Mcnair steps in and does right by this team. I feel like if things continue to get worse and no changes are made....we may lose our best players either to injury or just plain ol wanting to get away from the nightmare.
Yes, and there have been lots of signs of unhappiness in Texan's land and everyone has been brushing it aside. I think a number of people have left because of it and Glenn is one. I said before and I still think there is more to that story than we will ever know. Capers tried to mend the damage but to no avail. You reap what you sow..................
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Very well said, but again the problem is Caper's surrounds himself with his cronies and he's not about to go after anyone who is a threat to show him up. I think it is also a function of the Capers run at all cost mentality and a fixation with the Zone blocking scheme which he bought into hook line and sinker two years ago. I think Houck would want to install a different scheme, and if it worked, that would have made Caper's look bad. While I would love to have seen the change you are talking about, it would not have worked without getting rid of Capers. Believe me I respect what you are saying about this man's ability to coach an O-line.
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Very well said, but again the problem is Caper's surrounds himself with his cronies (everyone does) and he's not about to go after anyone who is a threat to show him up (don't see where this is true since there are people on staff who have formerly been head coaches (Palmer) or who have been considered for head coaches (Fangio, Pendry) or who will be considered (Hoke). I think it is also a function of the Capers run at all cost mentality and a fixation with the Zone blocking scheme(funny that fixation has resulted in him having zone blocking for let's see 1.1/16th years at this point--must be a fixation rather than trying something which has given Denver an ummmm, consistant rushing attack) which he bought into hook line and sinker two years ago. I think Houck would want to install a different scheme, and if it worked, that would have made Caper's look bad. While I would love to have seen the change you are talking about, it would not have worked without getting rid of Capers. Believe me I respect what you are saying about this man's ability to coach an O-line. (Or it would have worked with Capers and Houck but without...maybe Palmer, Pendry or Casserly, at this point we really don't know).
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At this point and time, I feel like Capers is a dead end. We have nowhere to go but up. Mcnair just needs to pull the trigger on a change now IMO.

I at least hope it can't get any worse. TBD this weekend.......
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Simply put.., Capers and company need to go..., new attitude and change go hand in hand. Better to make changes at this point than to have to wait it out one more season.

We may still lose a bunch of games this season .., but at least we will go down swinging, and who knows, maybe pull out an upset or two.

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I don't think the players are buying what Dom is selling.....................


In one of Carr's recent quotes (and it feels good to hear this after three years),"We can't be conservative, we have to attack". Sounds like the QB is finally stepping up a little in the leadership role................
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Very well said, but again the problem is Caper's surrounds himself with his cronies (everyone does) and he's not about to go after anyone who is a threat to show him up (don't see where this is true since there are people on staff who have formerly been head coaches (Palmer) or who have been considered for head coaches (Fangio, Pendry) or who will be considered (Hoke). I think it is also a function of the Capers run at all cost mentality and a fixation with the Zone blocking scheme(funny that fixation has resulted in him having zone blocking for let's see 1.1/16th years at this point--must be a fixation rather than trying something which has given Denver an ummmm, consistant rushing attack) which he bought into hook line and sinker two years ago. I think Houck would want to install a different scheme, and if it worked, that would have made Caper's look bad. While I would love to have seen the change you are talking about, it would not have worked without getting rid of Capers. Believe me I respect what you are saying about this man's ability to coach an O-line. (Or it would have worked with Capers and Houck but without...maybe Palmer, Pendry or Casserly, at this point we really don't know).
As long as Capers is here, it's going to be the same-o same-o and you are right on about Capers not hiring coaches that can take his job away. In 'Caper's Quotes,' he says the ideal winning situation is to throw 11 passes and run 41 times. Finally, like his game plans, "Capers Quote" is the same BS every week...and he still never accepts blame!!! :brickwall
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Changing coaches in the middle of the season wouldnt do any good, because the Texans would have to learn a whole new offense, so I can wait till the end of the season.
Well it looks like they dont know this offense so what will it hurt to learn a new one? Besides it will be an advantage to learn it now so by the start of next season they will be in full swing.
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Exactly. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would like to see McNair be more like Jerry Jones and be in Capers face all the time, at least for now, and see what happens when he feels that kind of pressure from the owner.
Oh HECK no. That's the one thing that drove me nuts when we had no team and I was supporting the other Texas team. Jerrah thought he had to put it in everyone's business and may even have thought he could do the job better... I mean, to drop Johnson and bring in Switzer?

I dig McNair's style - the "behind the scenes" and smart owner. He'll come out in public when he has something positive to say, or at least let the masses know what his focus is ("Number one priority is to protect David Carr.") but to come out and rag on personell... I don't see that happening, thank goodness.
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Depending on whose story you hear and believe Jimmy quit or Jerry made him a deal to leave. Irregardless when you have a personality conflict between the owner and an employee of any company or business the owner will always win...that's a war that couldn't be won by Jimmy. He left with a nice large million dollar bonus I think and in fact Jimmy has gone on record to say that these days he and Jerry are on good terms and friendly. The relationship had just run it's course so to speak.

And Barry did win a SB that first year without even having to coach...something I'm not so sure he's capable of anyway.

If the Texans make a coaching change I don't think it will be till the offseason. And that's a long way away and alot of football to be played. I do wonder though if the fans will weigh in on a decision. It seems to me by the game that fans are growing more weary of the Capers regime.
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You know, I always hear that Barry couldn't coach and I just plain disagree with that. Barry Switzer coached just fine. He won a lot in the college game and that didn't just happen all on it's own. He got hired by Jerry Jones and what did he do in his first season? the team went to the Super Bowl and won it.

Now everyone says (rightfully so) that he took Jimmy Johnsons team to the Super Bowl and was just along for the ride but think about that for a moment. Didn't John Gruden pretty much take Tony Dungys team to the Super Bowl? Nobody says Gruden can't coach even though he's done nothing of note with the Bucs since then.

Switzer in his first season with the Cowboys did an outstanding job of coaching in that the team he was given could have taken itself to the Super Bowl without any coaches at all by the time he got there. Sometimes knowing to leave something good alone is the smartest thing you can do.

I consider the Cowboys downfall to be far more Jerry Jones fault than Barry Switzers. Jones is maybe the poorest judge of talent in the northern hemisphere and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a draft without someone (Like Jimmy Johnson, or today like the Tuna) holding his hand. That team got old and didn't restock well.

Switzer was a better coach in college than he could ever have been in the pros. That's kind of his limitation. Lots of good coaches are limited. Jerry Glanville is a good coach... if you need a defensive coordinator. Same with Buddy Ryan. The league is littered with guys like that but they're good coaches. Switzer could coach, he was just so easy to make fun of because he took the role of Jerrys puppet and he did such boneheaded things (like the gun in the airport) at times.
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