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Old 09-11-2005   #21
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Why do they have offensive/defensive players of the game when you
are considering 11 different posisitions?


Somebody-somewhere is able to determine, for example, that a qb
out played a rb!
There are specific statistics that can measure the impact of passing and rushing. There are some statistics that can measure the impact of defensive tackles, but their primary role (taking up blockers) is not a measurable statistic. It's simply a judgment call from watching and who you think made the bigger impact.

I wouldn't have been upset if the thread starter had said DJ played better today. It was the use of statistics as if they proved anything, because they're meaningless. It's the equivalent of saying a RB outplayed a QB because he had more rushing yards.
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Old 09-11-2005   #22
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Well TJ is a backup, that right there should give you enough ammo. He won't be strong enough to spell anyone from their spot.
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The Texans will be not be living this one down. It was a perfect fit, a local sensation that was very marketable in this region, especially when we were letting go a LB and had an immediate opening.

...good post!
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Old 09-11-2005   #24
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Thank god we didn't draft that guy. We have the linchpins of our 3-4 in place and this coaching staff and their 3-4 will be in place for ever so there is no need to draft the best linebacker of the last 5 years in college football.
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You forgot to mention his forced fumble.
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How many fans on this messageboard that said DJ is overrated and would be a bust in the NFL will come forward and eat crow? My guess is zero.
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Still fuming over the DJ non-pick. I just eventually shut up about it because we can't go back and change it so what's the point. The Texans blew that one bigtime.
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Still fuming over the DJ non-pick. I just eventually shut up about it because we can't go back and change it so what's the point. The Texans blew that one bigtime.

Well .... I think a lot of us are still irritated over that pick .....but no sense crying over spilt milk .... DJ did have a pretty nice game Vs. the Jets .... I wish the former Longhorn well .... and Hope that Travis Johnson proves Casserly to be a genius (Doubtful)
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Joey Harrington - 11/20, 116 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT

Apparently they drafted the wrong QB as well.
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DJ couldn't have helped us this game either though. You have to blitz the LB to actually hit him or sack him.
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first of all, DJs stats in HIS FIRST GAME in KC, have no bearing on whether or not he would have fit in our defense down here (if you want to call it a defense)

second of all, this post has absolutely no value whatsoever. If you really dont like the decisions we have made and want to see a change, whining about who we didnt draft is not going to get you anywhere.
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Joey Harrington - 11/20, 116 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT

Apparently they drafted the wrong QB as well.
Williams. Williams. Rogers. Jones. Pollard. Johnson.

Don't EVEN go there.
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Doesn't change the fact that comparing statistics of a DT in a 3-4 to a linebacker is ridiculous.

Also, fwiw, TJ played better than any of our defensive linemen, imo.
comparing stats? yes that is ridiculous.

Comparing the impact that player had on the game he was in? Not ridiculous at all.


TJ will never affect any game he's in the way DJ can affect a game. The Texans had a chance to take an elite linebacker and instead took a good lineman with far too high a pick. Interesting that a year before they gave up a bunch of picks to take "good" linebacker and sold him to us as having the potential to be elite.

It's all so much rubbish and we'll be half a decade digging out of the hole Casserly and Capers are putting us in.
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Well TJ is a backup, that right there should give you enough ammo. He won't be strong enough to spell anyone from their spot.
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TJ couldnt even beat out seth payne wow that and awsome pick if i only had a timemachine and let casserly know he was gonna blow it again with that pick.
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first of all, DJs stats in HIS FIRST GAME in KC, have no bearing on whether or not he would have fit in our defense down here (if you want to call it a defense)

second of all, this post has absolutely no value whatsoever. If you really dont like the decisions we have made and want to see a change, whining about who we didnt draft is not going to get you anywhere.
So if a fan really doesn't like the decisions we have made and wants to see a change he should shut up and keep his comments to himself? Is that what I understand you mean by "whining about who we didn't draft is not going to get you anywhere"?

The way I see it keeping my mouth shut and continuing to drink the Kool Aid isn't getting me anywhere either so I might as well say what's on my mind.
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I to am starting to question the pick of DJ over TJ. At the time I trusted the opinons of teh FO and other talent evaluators (Gossilin, mianly) and thought that DJ wouldn't work in Houston. Then Cass and Co pick up Greenwood, saying we needed more athletic MLBs, and I started to question things (mainly giving Cass credit for having a good, at the time, first round record)

After seeing the utter lack of anything from the MLBs today, I must agree with the general consenus here. How is drafting a back-up better then drafting a possible impact starter?
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Do you think any of the veteran defesive players (Glenn, Foreman, and Sharper) made their decisions based on the direction the franchise is going? Well I will stick by the team. I will just accept that this will be a difficult year.
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first of all, DJs stats in HIS FIRST GAME in KC, have no bearing on whether or not he would have fit in our defense down here (if you want to call it a defense)

second of all, this post has absolutely no value whatsoever. If you really dont like the decisions we have made and want to see a change, whining about who we didnt draft is not going to get you anywhere.
will this be what you mean Monday?
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will this be what you mean Monday?
so if we complain enough theres still a chance we'll be 1-0?
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