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CyberTexan · 09-11-2005

this game wasnt Carrs fault , it was all due to 2 things Offensive line and Coaching plain and simple

Dante's Inferno · 09-11-2005

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Originally Posted by DomDavis

Do you have our offensive line? Did you play on the road? Did you play the second best defense in the league? The answer to all of those is no, so it's totally irrelevant.

Next.

Don't take it personally. Believe me, as Jaguar fans we know this will not happen every week. And yes, we were blessed with a capable Offensive Line.

The Line is where your problems lie...how to solve that problem is the mystery...

Scott747 · 09-11-2005

Carr refuses to step into the pocket. He drops and if his first choice reciever is not open he looks to jump outside to either drop off to DD or run. It's blantly obvious now that after the beating he has taken the first few years that it may be a trait he will not be able to change. The pocket was there many times today, and if he would have just steped into it valuable time would have been gained for a 2nd or 3rd choice reciever.

BuffSoldier · 09-11-2005

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Originally Posted by Scott747

Three step drop is not the answer. Step in the pocket Dave and trust the routes your receivers run.

Its hard to trust from your back. 4 sacks and 8 pressures is inexcusable. :brickwall

kbourda · 09-11-2005

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Originally Posted by Goldeagle

Not Carrs fault we cant block or catch or turn our heads (eh #86)

So true but it also is his fault him making terrible decisions, over-throws, under-throws, and no command whatsoever.

LBC_Justin · 09-11-2005

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Originally Posted by touttail

Did the O line stay in Houston. They were in Carr's face every play, all day.

There is not a QB living or dead that could have done any better. Hell Carr didn't have time to blink much less look for a reciever!!!!!!!!

bobby 119C :brickwall

At one point I thought......man I feel sorry for the guy.

The O-line picked up right where they left off last year, and so did Palmer with his play calling.

Can you fire an entire O-line?

Porky · 09-11-2005

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Originally Posted by touttail

Did the O line stay in Houston. They were in Carr's face every play, all day.

There is not a QB living or dead that could have done any better. Hell Carr didn't have time to blink much less look for a reciever!!!!!!!!

bobby 119C :brickwall

You're joking right?

Dante's Inferno · 09-11-2005

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Originally Posted by LBC_Justin

At one point I thought......man I feel sorry for the guy.

The O-line picked up right where they left off last year, and so did Palmer with his play calling.

Can you fire an entire O-line?

No, but does the problem lie with the Offensive Line or the coaches?

By the way Texans, putting all rivalries aside, please pray and hope for the best for Coach Paul Boudreau, our Offensive Line Coach, who went down in the locker room. EMT's were sent in. We have no more news as of right now. Thank you.

Fldvldog · 09-11-2005

Ragone or Banks should start IMHO. Sorry Texans, but I don't see how Carr is going to excell in this league. Yes, part of the blame is on that horrendous O-Line, but he made some BAD decisions today (ie: throwing into double coverage).

Txnpride · 09-11-2005

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Originally Posted by TexanLen

Its the beef up front. I think if Carr had more time, he could show what he can do. When you are constantly running from defenders, it is hard to be a QB. This was a bad game all the way around. The honeymoon is over guys!! I want results. I love the Texans, but this is just plain bad.

I love the Texans also....I am truly starting to believe it starts with the coaching staff.We need to have a coach with some type of fire.Dom has already been caught with his mouth open on the sidelines....what a stupid look that is.I am sure most of you know that look.The team looked like the first year they stepped on the field.....and there is Dom....with his mouth hanging open...Are the Bills that good?....or are we THAT BAD????

Sorry Dom lovers....but the team had seven months to prepare for this game,and they looked lost,confused & pathetic :brickwall texan fan until I die

Goldeagle · 09-11-2005

Yeah TXNPRIDE All I saw from Dom was the mouth open and "duh" coming from it.

HoustonFan · 09-11-2005

Offensive line has set him up for failure. Not to mention the play calling. I could see it now, if Carr was w/ another team w/ an O'line that will give him the time and coverage needed to make plays. He goes on to be a better QB than here.

I say there needs to be a change of coaches.

Goldeagle · 09-11-2005

TRADE CARR SO HE CAN WIN!

Lol, she loves David Carr more than me lol

V Man · 09-11-2005

Well, Joey Harrington already has a TD pass this year. Carr stunk it up today, but until he gets a better line and better receivers, we will never know if he can play QB in this league. Our line consists of a bunch on nobodies, and the receiver core has one player, a speedster with stone hands (which no other team wanted when he was a FA this year, so we take him back), and a Gaffeny turn around and look for the ball.

Grid · 09-11-2005

ya know that is what makes me really freakin angry.

Carr had (yes HAD) a slew of talent. he had a great attitude.. he had all the intangibles. hes a great guy with a great family.. and we have basicly killed his career.

DomDavis · 09-11-2005

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Originally Posted by Fldvldog

Ragone or Banks should start IMHO. Sorry Texans, but I don't see how Carr is going to excell in this league. Yes, part of the blame is on that horrendous O-Line, but he made some BAD decisions today (ie: throwing into double coverage).

You guys are hilarious.

If he doesn't throw into double coverage, it's all about "Carr doesn't take any chances, he always dumps it off to DD". You guys whine all the time about not giving Andre a chance down the field. He did, it didn't work out, and now it was a BAD decision? If you don't want bad decisions, don't whine when he dumps the ball off.

Ragone and Banks are statues in the pocket compared to Carr. If you start them, you're looking at 8 sacks a game, minimum.

TexanAggie · 09-11-2005

ok what about his fumble and stand there and look at it roll around on the ground at his feet?? the only texan to try for it was McKinney

numerous times throw into double coverage and triple coverage lets not blame the oline completely carr had plenty to do with that bad play also, he needs to get his head out of the clouds and get to work .............

Dont forget to blame the rb's for not picking up the blitz .....

tex · 09-11-2005

I can't blame Carr I would throw the ball away to if it would get me off the field.It's going to be a long season ,we might win 5 maybe 6 games.I sure hope I'm wrong.

Goldeagle · 09-11-2005

Hey Elle congrats on the win, I was pulling for the Saints today like many others!

DomDavis · 09-11-2005

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Originally Posted by TexanAggie

ok what about his fumble and stand there and look at it roll around on the ground at his feet?? the only texan to try for it was McKinney

numerous times throw into double coverage and triple coverage lets not blame the oline completely carr had plenty to do with that bad play also, he needs to get his head out of the clouds and get to work .............

Dont forget to blame the rb's for not picking up the blitz .....

Playmakers like Andre Johnson have to make plays in double coverage sometimes because they aren't getting single coverage very often. If Carr doesn't take some chances, Andre won't ever get the ball. If he doesn't take some chances, you'll whine about him being too conservative.

09-11-2005	#33
Goldeagle Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Spring Age: 40 Posts: 1,816 Rep Power: 11	From my mother YELLING in the other room TRADE CARR SO HE CAN WIN! Lol, she loves David Carr more than me lol

09-11-2005	#34
V Man Pumpkinhead Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alamo City Age: 45 Posts: 2,586 Rep Power: 18	Well, Joey Harrington already has a TD pass this year. Carr stunk it up today, but until he gets a better line and better receivers, we will never know if he can play QB in this league. Our line consists of a bunch on nobodies, and the receiver core has one player, a speedster with stone hands (which no other team wanted when he was a FA this year, so we take him back), and a Gaffeny turn around and look for the ball. __________________ sig by michaelm

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09-11-2005	#21
CyberTexan Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 172 Rep Power: 10	this game wasnt Carrs fault , it was all due to 2 things Offensive line and Coaching plain and simple

09-11-2005	#23
Scott747 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 46 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 8	Carr refuses to step into the pocket. He drops and if his first choice reciever is not open he looks to jump outside to either drop off to DD or run. It's blantly obvious now that after the beating he has taken the first few years that it may be a trait he will not be able to change. The pocket was there many times today, and if he would have just steped into it valuable time would have been gained for a 2nd or 3rd choice reciever.

09-11-2005	#29
Fldvldog Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange Park FL. Age: 32 Posts: 351 Rep Power: 8	Ragone or Banks should start IMHO. Sorry Texans, but I don't see how Carr is going to excell in this league. Yes, part of the blame is on that horrendous O-Line, but he made some BAD decisions today (ie: throwing into double coverage).

09-11-2005	#32
HoustonFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 34 Posts: 1,180 Rep Power: 10	Offensive line has set him up for failure. Not to mention the play calling. I could see it now, if Carr was w/ another team w/ an O'line that will give him the time and coverage needed to make plays. He goes on to be a better QB than here. I say there needs to be a change of coaches.

09-11-2005	#35
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	ya know that is what makes me really freakin angry. Carr had (yes HAD) a slew of talent. he had a great attitude.. he had all the intangibles. hes a great guy with a great family.. and we have basicly killed his career.

09-11-2005	#37
TexanAggie Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 9	ok what about his fumble and stand there and look at it roll around on the ground at his feet?? the only texan to try for it was McKinney numerous times throw into double coverage and triple coverage lets not blame the oline completely carr had plenty to do with that bad play also, he needs to get his head out of the clouds and get to work ............. Dont forget to blame the rb's for not picking up the blitz .....

09-11-2005	#38
tex Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 183 Rep Power: 9	I can't blame Carr I would throw the ball away to if it would get me off the field.It's going to be a long season ,we might win 5 maybe 6 games.I sure hope I'm wrong.

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