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Old 09-11-2005   #1
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Default So.. we need to make some changes.

1. THIS is our new, faster defense? Where is the pass rush? Buffalo had one of the worse lines in the league last season. They made some changes but you cant tell me that these guys are now one of the BEST lines in the league. Our pass rush is as bad, or worse, than it was last year. Quit screwing around and do some blitzing.. It cant get much worse.

2. The point of this new offense was to provide Carr with better protection right? Get it out of his hands before the protection collapses right? Well it isnt working.. he has been sacked 4 times (as of right now) and our new offense sucks. Go back to the old offense. At least in that offense Carr may get sacked 4 times..but we would at least get some yardage and TDs.

3. I have NEVER been one of the "fire palmer/fangio/capers" crowd. I always found it to be pretty stupid to call for peoples heads when there were "weaknesses" in the team that prevented the coordinators from being able to call the game like they wanted to. Well there are no excuses anymore and I am officially P.O.ed that we have such terrible playcallers. Fire Fangio and Fire Palmer. We arent going to get anywhere if this is the best they can do with our talent. Start over. Maybe we can make the playoffs by 2008.

4. Capers... ya know.. if you are going to fire Palmer and Fangio.. you might as well go all the way and get rid of Capers too. I used to think that his win/loss percentage was a product of the fact that he has been the headcoach of two expansion teams. But im thinking now that he just isnt headcoach material.



This is the worst Texans loss ive ever witnessed. Before.. there was always a reason. The team we were playing was just BETTER.. or Davis got a bad case of the fumbles.. or our Oline was still learning to mesh..or using a new blocking scheme...or a key player was injured.

There were no excuses today.. we SHOULD have been out there at 100% showing our stuff. I lay this whole loss, and waste of an offseason, on the coaches.

I still think we can pull it together and do something with this season, but only if our coaches get their heads out of the collected a**es and give us a chance to win.

im disgusted. I hope we can pull through and at least make 8-8 this season. But I almost hope for 4-12, or 3-13, so that we can get a higher draft pick, and have a good excuse to make some major changes in our coaching staff.

I know its only the first game of the season, and im not saying we cant still kick some butt.. but im just completely shocked at how unprepared and "amateurish" we looked out there. This is not what our team should have looked like.. we have taken a step back when we were supposed to have taken 2 or 3 steps forward.
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To me the D played their hearts out and mainly just gave up field goals.. The offense stinks.. Carr is still scared and he locks onto one receiver and then when that receiver is covered he dumps it to DD .. I saw nothing new from Carr. We honestly don't know how to spread the ball around consistantly.

It is painful to watch this team at this time


Yes the defense basically gave up field goals, but you are right. No pass rush again.
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Thank you for speaking up and not settling for less than winning anymore. I wish more people on this board would stop defending this style of coaching. We have the tools to be better...but not the coaches to utilize them.
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Yes the defense basically gave up field goals, but you are right. No pass rush again.
And keep in mind that this is one of the weaker offensive lines in the NFL.
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O-line just needs time to gel.
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Keep in mind that they "just gave up fieldgoals" to a team that was one of the WORST at scoring touchdowns in the redzone last season.

AND they were starting a rookie QB.

We made their QB look like a pro. The only time our defense stood a chance was when the field was shortened to the point that J.P. couldnt pick our secondary apart.

we had NO pass rush against one of the WORST lines in the league starting a ROOKIE QB.

no.. our defense did NOT play well.. the played just good enough to keep us in the game. A good defense would have been able to pressure losman.. they would have caused some 3 and outs instead of letting the Bills march down the field on every drive and nickle & dime us to death with fieldgoals.
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O-line just needs time to gel.
Nope. O-line just has to replace Wand. Oh! Never mind.
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Personally I don't know if I'm interested in watching anymore of this unless changes are made. This is beyond unacceptable. If I owned this team Capers and Palmer would get fired before returning to Houston. They'd have to pay for their own air fare back.

What's got me so wound up right now is that I admit, I drank the Kool Aid. I fell for this garbage while they were steadily building the 1999 Cleveland Browns. I'm as annoyed at myself as I am at the Texans. Hell, they even had Chris Palmer putting together the offense and I fell for it. He was the ar****ect of the 1999 Cleveland Browns so why am I surprised that we got the exact same thing?

I hate these guys right now. All of them.
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To the above nominated Capers, Fangio, and Palmer, I would like to add Charley Casserly.
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Now Casserly i do NOT agree with.

He has done a great job of getting alot of talent on this team.

We have one of the most talented young teams in the league because of Casserly.
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Personally I don't know if I'm interested in watching anymore of this unless changes are made. This is beyond unacceptable. If I owned this team Capers and Palmer would get fired before returning to Houston. They'd have to pay for their own air fare back.

What's got me so wound up right now is that I admit, I drank the Kool Aid. I fell for this garbage while they were steadily building the 1999 Cleveland Browns. I'm as annoyed at myself as I am at the Texans. Hell, they even had Chris Palmer putting together the offense and I fell for it. He was the ar****ect of the 1999 Cleveland Browns so why am I surprised that we got the exact same thing?

I hate these guys right now. All of them.
Why can't I spell a_r_c_h_i_t_e_c_t ? Odd.
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c-h-i-t is a common "misspelling" of the curse word that looks a bit like it. Its used to get around the filter.
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Now Casserly i do NOT agree with.

He has done a great job of getting alot of talent on this team.

We have one of the most talented young teams in the league because of Casserly.

Has he really? lets review.

We just got runover by Willis McGahee who the Bills were smart enough to grab despite his knee injury. What did our bargain back with a bum knee do today? Nothing because he's what? Third string? I submit that if Charlie hadn't gotten lucky with Domanick Davis we would literally have no running game right now. Oh wait, a second. We didn't have one today anyway.

Only one example but I'm thinking that Casserly is not the genius that the team likes to tell us he is. If he was I think he could have built an offensive line by now. The one we have is pathetic and has contributed to turning a #1 overall QB into one of the worst starters in the NFL. What a waste of a pick that was to select David Carr when the team did such a poor job of protecting him.
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that's hilarious. I'm the one who brought that to Vinny's attention. Guess the brain lapses aren't limited to the team today.
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Now Casserly i do NOT agree with.

He has done a great job of getting alot of talent on this team.

We have one of the most talented young teams in the league because of Casserly.

Casserly is repsonsible for the following:

Carr #1 overall. QB rating the last three games 5.7, 0.0, 12.1

Behind the trades of Pbuc for three players, Babin for three players, passing on an impact player in DJ, for a non impact player in TJ. Signing average guys like Greenwood to fat contracts. Getting rid of veterans who understand the game in favor of inexperienced players. Grabbing Hollings in round 2. NOnly having 8 startes who were drafted. Prematurely signing Pitts, and others to bigger contracts than their talent dictates, hiring the coaches who have failed us......and on and on. No way Casserly gets a pass from me. No way at all.
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Carr #1 overall. QB rating the last three games 5.7, 0.0, 12.1

Behind the trades of Pbuc for three players, Babin for three players, passing on an impact player in DJ, for a non impact player in TJ. Signing average guys like Greenwood to fat contracts. Getting rid of veterans who understand the game in favor of inexperienced players. Grabbing Hollings in round 2. NOnly having 8 startes who were drafted. Prematurely signing Pitts, and others to bigger contracts than their talent dictates, hiring the coaches who have failed us......and on and on. No way Casserly gets a pass from me. No way at all.
No one gets a pass right now. The failures of this team start from the top all the way down to the water boys. Changes will be needed by week 4 if there is any chance of salvaging this season.
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see.. thats a bunch of bull Porky.

Carr's passer rating in preseason doesnt even apply. Go look at some other starting QBs passer ratings in Preseason..they arent all pretty.

Pbuc and Babin are still up in the air.. though this game didnt make me feel too good about them.

Impact player in DJ for non impact in TJ? where is your proof? that is just your opinion and it could be completely wrong.


Im fine with us signing players to fat contracts as long as its done in an intelligent way. I havent seen any cap troubles yet.

You have to get rid of your old vets eventually. We had opportunities to do so, so we took em.

Hollings is a bust.

The Pitts signing wasnt premature, or a bad move. And we didnt pay him too much.


Hiring the Coaches isnt just on Casserly.


Herv's points are harder to argue.

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You cant take a great draft pick like DD and say "casserly got lucky". That just isnt fair to Cass. He made a great pick when he saw DDs talent.

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THAT..is hard to deny.



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Changes to the way we play? most definatly. Changes to the coaching staff? no.. and not likely to happen. You dont see staff changes during the season. Besides.. if we tough it out till the end of the season, we have a better chance of getting a good replacement.
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Carr #1 overall. QB rating the last three games 5.7, 0.0, 12.1
Why don't you go to the Pittsburgh board and post how much Roethlisberger sucks based on the average of his last five games? Oh wait... that's right... the preseason doesn't count.
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Changes to the way we play? most definatly. Changes to the coaching staff? no.. and not likely to happen. You dont see staff changes during the season. Besides.. if we tough it out till the end of the season, we have a better chance of getting a good replacement.
Very true. Jerry Gray or Gary Kubiak would be great selections as coaches.

The question is, will we be high enough in the draft to get a decent QB?
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