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DatTexBoy · 09-09-2005

Are they seeing something we don't...I thought both Reggie Swinton and Sloan Thomas did enough to make the squad but then I figured we feel comfortable with what we have...then I come across this on ProSportsDaily.com

Former Patriots receiver P.K. Sam worked out for the Texans yesterday morning in Houston. Reached by phone just before boarding a plane to Boston, Sam said he felt the workout went well, though he didn't have a contract offer by the afternoon . . .

What is going on with this organization?

Am I missing something here?

El Tejano · 09-09-2005

I questioned that too when I saw it. I had the same question basically. Now why did we get rid of two WR just to try out another one? I don't know.

**Vinny** · 09-09-2005

We figured Mathis could return kicks and Buchannon could return Punts....on Thomas, tell me who signed him?

El Tejano · 09-09-2005

Is there a chance we can sign Thomas again?

**Vinny** · 09-09-2005

Looks like we looked elsewhere for WR's after we cut him. I doubt it now....possible though.

Exascor · 09-09-2005

Just a little update:

The Patriots signed wide receiver P.K. Sam to the practice squad yesterday.

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jmerog · 09-09-2005

it's difficult to understand why Corey Bradford is putting on a football uniform instead of a bellhop's uniform. or even better-I'll bet he would make an outstanding rikshaw puller ( i hear he's reeeeal fast)

I would definitly keep Swinton or Thomas over bradford. Swinton over Thomas

the 2 best things they could do for the team would be to cut bradford and palmer. Don't even get me started on palmer... :brickwall

GO TEXANS

Nawzer · 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by jmerog

I'll bet he would make an outstanding rikshaw puller ( i hear he's reeeeal fast)

Hey, to pull a rickshaw somewhere you got to know your routes atleast!

DatTexBoy · 09-09-2005

But my thing was that Capers CLAIMED that the special teams was what he wanted to upgrade and bring a demension to the team that will help the offense. The cut of Swinton was crippling us in my opinion. We have had no one to break open a game with special teams play and when we seem to have one we cut him. I remember we kept that sorry slow KR that couldn't play WR either.

Mathis is a project with tremendous potential. But potential vs. production is very much different when it comes down to players being cut.

The more and more I hear Casserly

talk the less I am having confidence in him and Capers. I want them to prove us

wrong and show us something other then mediocrity.

**Vinny** · 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by DatTexBoy

The cut of Swinton was crippling us in my opinion. We have had no one to break open a game with special teams play and when we seem to have one we cut him.

I guess you have never seen Buchannon return punts.

jmerog · 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by DatTexBoy

But my thing was that Capers CLAIMED that the special teams was what he wanted to upgrade and bring a demension to the team that will help the offense. The cut of Swinton was crippling us in my opinion. We have had no one to break open a game with special teams play and when we seem to have one we cut him. I remember we kept that sorry slow KR that couldn't play WR either.

Mathis is a project with tremendous potential. But potential vs. production is very much different when it comes down to players being cut.

The more and more I hear Casserly

talk the less I am having confidence in him and Capers. I want them to prove us

wrong and show us something other then mediocrity.

truer words were never spoken, my friend. Swinton had real potential to be a dynamo. I'm happy to have the chance to see what mathis becomes because it could be great BUT Swinton was a known, proven performer. Still, cutting bradford and keeping swinton would have been the best of both worlds. I agree with you about not taking Chuck seriously.
Casserly is a decent GM and reguardless of how good/bad the team performs, part of his job will always be to talk a good line and sugar coat things. As far as Capers goes, I think he's a good head coach albeit a bit too conservative. Palmer should be mailed out of town in a box headed for the north pole (with an apology letter to the polar bears and penguins)

**infantrycak** · 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by jmerog

Swinton had real potential to be a dynamo.

Swinton was not the next coming of Eddie Drummond, much less Dante Hall. Going into what will be his 6th season in the NFL (after being undrafted) he is looking for his 5th job. Sure, he returned a pre-season 2nd half kick-off for a TD, but he also stuck a ball on the ground, something he does 2.5 times as often as returning one for a TD.

jmerog · 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

Swinton was not the next coming of Eddie Drummond, much less Dante Hall. Going into what will be his 6th season in the NFL (after being undrafted) he is looking for his 5th job. Sure, he returned a pre-season 2nd half kick-off for a TD, but he also stuck a ball on the ground, something he does 2.5 times as often as returning one for a TD.

Ok fine-it was a bit of an overstament but he still added more value than the consistantly underachieving,overpaid bradford. But since bradford is staying, I hope he makes me eat my words and burns defenses all season long. idoubt it

HardCoreTxn · 09-09-2005

whats the scoop on WR Maurice Washington? I cant find any info on him

**Runner** · 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

Swinton was not the next coming of Eddie Drummond, much less Dante Hall. Going into what will be his 6th season in the NFL (after being undrafted) he is looking for his 5th job. Sure, he returned a pre-season 2nd half kick-off for a TD, but he also stuck a ball on the ground, something he does 2.5 times as often as returning one for a TD.

My gawd man! Don't confuse the issue with facts!

the wonger need food · 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by HardCoreTxn

whats the scoop on WR Maurice Washington? I cant find any info on him

Undrafted FA from Texas A&M Kingsville. Signed with Raiders before being cut.

Here's a snippet from the Corpus Christi paper on him...

Maurice

You have to register to read it.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 09-09-2005

I keep trying to figure when Corey Bradford and Tony Hollings became everything wrong with the Texans.

Also, I missed memo that stated Sloan Thomas, Kevein Kasper and Reggie Swinton were conversely the saviors of the 2005 Texans season.

**infantrycak** · 09-09-2005

I am a little curious why we have never seen Bradford tried as a kick/punt returner. I don't recall it ever even being tested in training camp.

Porky · 09-09-2005

I think a whole bunch of fans are scratching their heads at some of the personenel moves, contract signings, et al. They seem to have no real direction, like a ship without a rudder. And, they consistently contradict themselves, and talk out of both sides of thier mouths. Example - Capers says the last two Preseason games are very important for the bubble guys. Practice is imprortant, but what these guys do on the field counts most. So, what happens? Sloan Thomas tears it up, and looks great, then promptly gets cut, and can't even make the practice squad.

Corrosion · 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

I keep trying to figure when Corey Bradford and Tony Hollings became everything wrong with the Texans.

Bradford and Hollings alone arent ALL thats wrong with the Texans . They have been somewhat useless and totally useless respectively ... That makes them targets for us to point at as failure's or bad choices by management . You could add Joppru and his three seasons on the pup list to that mix .

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

I am a little curious why we have never seen Bradford tried as a kick/punt returner. I don't recall it ever even being tested in training camp.

I think his hands are a bit TOO questionable for the task of punt / kick returns .. At least Capers has sense enough NOT to stick him back there.

09-09-2005	#1
DatTexBoy Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 149 Rep Power: 10	We had two WR's Are they seeing something we don't...I thought both Reggie Swinton and Sloan Thomas did enough to make the squad but then I figured we feel comfortable with what we have...then I come across this on ProSportsDaily.com Former Patriots receiver P.K. Sam worked out for the Texans yesterday morning in Houston. Reached by phone just before boarding a plane to Boston, Sam said he felt the workout went well, though he didn't have a contract offer by the afternoon . . . What is going on with this organization? Am I missing something here?

09-09-2005	#3
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	We figured Mathis could return kicks and Buchannon could return Punts....on Thomas, tell me who signed him? __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

09-09-2005	#5
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Looks like we looked elsewhere for WR's after we cut him. I doubt it now....possible though. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

09-09-2005	#7
jmerog Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 264 Rep Power: 8	it's difficult to understand why Corey Bradford is putting on a football uniform instead of a bellhop's uniform. or even better-I'll bet he would make an outstanding rikshaw puller ( i hear he's reeeeal fast) I would definitly keep Swinton or Thomas over bradford. Swinton over Thomas the 2 best things they could do for the team would be to cut bradford and palmer. Don't even get me started on palmer... :brickwall GO TEXANS __________________ Texans honor the cow- we eat steak, wear leather, and pile our Tex-mex with cheese.

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HardCoreTxn Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 228 Rep Power: 9	whats the scoop on WR Maurice Washington? I cant find any info on him __________________ !LETS GO TEXANS!

09-09-2005	#2
El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	I questioned that too when I saw it. I had the same question basically. Now why did we get rid of two WR just to try out another one? I don't know.

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Exascor Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atascocita Posts: 1,148 Rep Power: 4938	Just a little update: The Patriots signed wide receiver P.K. Sam to the practice squad yesterday. Transactions

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ArlingtonTexan Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 5,258 Rep Power: 19442	I keep trying to figure when Corey Bradford and Tony Hollings became everything wrong with the Texans. Also, I missed memo that stated Sloan Thomas, Kevein Kasper and Reggie Swinton were conversely the saviors of the 2005 Texans season.

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infantrycak Lead Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 45 Posts: 37,448 Rep Power: 76017	I am a little curious why we have never seen Bradford tried as a kick/punt returner. I don't recall it ever even being tested in training camp. __________________ The Art of War

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Porky Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 11,351 Rep Power: 15678	I think a whole bunch of fans are scratching their heads at some of the personenel moves, contract signings, et al. They seem to have no real direction, like a ship without a rudder. And, they consistently contradict themselves, and talk out of both sides of thier mouths. Example - Capers says the last two Preseason games are very important for the bubble guys. Practice is imprortant, but what these guys do on the field counts most. So, what happens? Sloan Thomas tears it up, and looks great, then promptly gets cut, and can't even make the practice squad. __________________ Your local CruiseOne Vacation specialist. www.firstclasscruising.biz Visit me on Facebook.

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