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Old 09-09-2005   #1
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If I were Palmer I would throw right at him on some short routes and have AJ just barrell into him.

I think that would set a nice tone for the season.

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Clements is one of the best in the game...it's not going to be that easy.
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Clements is one of the best in the game...it's not going to be that easy.
Even when one of the best in the game is banged up, Clements, I agree that it will not be easy. However, I want this team to start taking on a personality or a swagger that says we are taking the game to the opponent.
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Clements is one of the best in the game...it's not going to be that easy.

Agreed of course but then isn't AJ one of the best in the game as well? Clements isn't in for an easy day either. Something's got to give here so being a Texans fan I'm thinking it's got to be Clements until proven otherwise.

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Clements will get help. They have an ex pro bowler at every position in the secondary..will AJ get help?
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Clements will get help. They have an ex pro bowler at every position in the secondary..will AJ get help?

Now that's the million dollar question isn't it Vinny? I say yeah, he gets help. I think the Texans will have a solid running game come Sunday and Bradford is going to have a good game. Opening day of the season pretty much every year Bradford has a good game.
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Even when one of the best in the game is banged up, Clements, I agree that it will not be easy. However, I want this team to start taking on a personality or a swagger that says we are taking the game to the opponent.
So far, Capers and crew have been content to let the opposition dictate the tempo and pace on both sides of the ball. I am keeping my fingers crossed that they had a revelation during the offseason, but I can't say I am hopeful.
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If I were Palmer I would throw right at him on some short routes and have AJ just barrell into him.

I think that would set a nice tone for the season.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...509080338/1021

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Do you want your best player to get injured by Clements? Because that is exactly what will happen if he challenges a top 5 cornerback and one of the nastyest hitters in the league.
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Do you want your best player to get injured by Clements? Because that is exactly what will happen if he challenges a top 5 cornerback and one of the nastyest hitters in the league.
Andre Johnson is a big boy. Closer in size to a tight end than to the size of most recievers.

Andre Johnson 6-3 and 219 lbs
Marvin Harrison 6-0 and 175 lbs
Chad Johnson 6-1 and 192 lbs

Nate Clements 5-11 and 209

Clements better be careful or he might end up reinjuring his shoulder.

So I say bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Interesting that AJ has actually dropped weight since being drafted. He was 230 lbs at the combine.
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I think the coaches wanted him lighter so he could get in and out of his breaks faster, helping his route running (which was supposed to be one of his weaknesses). I don't have a source but I remember reading something like that, and it would make sense anyway.

I'm not worried about AJ taking a hit from anyone. Roy Williams tattooed him in the preseason game and he just got up like nothing happened. Same with the backflip faceplant against the Vikings when he held on to the ball.
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that was one of the coolest things ive ever seen
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I think the coaches wanted him lighter so he could get in and out of his breaks faster, helping his route running (which was supposed to be one of his weaknesses). I don't have a source but I remember reading something like that, and it would make sense anyway.

I'm not worried about AJ taking a hit from anyone. Roy Williams tattooed him in the preseason game and he just got up like nothing happened. Same with the backflip faceplant against the Vikings when he held on to the ball.
Maybe if he gets blindsided by a monster LB running full speed. I am not worried about any DB hitting him. Is there a DB even close to his size in the league?
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I don't mind the theory, setting the tone for an aggressive game, but it's not going to work as dramatically as you might be envisioning. Clements is a tough CB, even with a bad shoulder. our whole secondary is tough. They can take hits as well as they can give them.

Also, in the event Nate's should is worse than anybody's letting on, don't think the Bills have no depth behind him. You'll be surprised by the athleticism of our backup CBs if it comes to it. Greer and King have been monsters this preseason.
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I think the coaches wanted him lighter so he could get in and out of his breaks faster, helping his route running (which was supposed to be one of his weaknesses). I don't have a source but I remember reading something like that, and it would make sense anyway.
There's another thread on the Board that mentions that Babin has lost a few
pounds and we know the whole DLine got smaller over the offseason. Liighter, quicker, more staying power in the 4th quarter - hey, works for me.
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Maybe if he gets blindsided by a monster LB running full speed. I am not worried about any DB hitting him. Is there a DB even close to his size in the league?
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Andre Johnson is a big boy. Closer in size to a tight end than to the size of most recievers.

Andre Johnson 6-3 and 219 lbs
Marvin Harrison 6-0 and 175 lbs
Chad Johnson 6-1 and 192 lbs

Nate Clements 5-11 and 209

Clements better be careful or he might end up reinjuring his shoulder.

So I say bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just wanted to add that Clements shut down Johnson (chad) and Marvin last time we played them. Just alittle history for you.
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Now that's the million dollar question isn't it Vinny? I say yeah, he gets help. I think the Texans will have a solid running game come Sunday and Bradford is going to have a good game. Opening day of the season pretty much every year Bradford has a good game.
All smack talk aside I relaly want to know why you all think you are going to have this huge rushing game against us? We were amongst the best in the league last year when it came to yards against the rush. Just give me a valid reason why, make me understand what makes you so different from the other rushing teams we have faced.
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I just wanted to add that Clements shut down Johnson (chad) and Marvin last time we played them. Just alittle history for you.
That is the reason I included both of them on there. To show they are not the same type/size of reciever AJ is. They are smaller guys.

Remember Clements got OUT JUMPED by a Jaguar rookie last year for the game winning touch down, that rookie was about the same size as AJ.


Jump ball in the Corner to AJ. LOL I hope Clements is covering him. 5-11 w/ a shorter vertical than AJ. I'll take that match up all day long.
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That is the reason I included both of them on there. To show they are not the same type/size of reciever AJ is. They are smaller guys.

Remember Clements got OUT JUMPED by a Jaguar rookie last year for the game winning touch down, that rookie was about the same size as AJ.


Jump ball in the Corner to AJ. LOL I hope Clements is covering him. 5-11 w/ a shorter vertical than AJ. I'll take that match up all day long.
You must not have watched much of that game. There happened to be five Bills in the area when that happened and one of them was not Nate, it was actually Coy Wire who got beat on coverage. Wire is a back up SS who was only in the game because of an injury to Lawyer Milloy, Preilou was in on the other side because of an injury to Vincent. This game both Milloy and Vincent are perfect. There is a reason why Clements is about to become the highest paid CB in the league.

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