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Old 09-08-2005   #21
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i agree with grid, i'd much rather see a fast 4-3 than a 3-4 with players who dont really fit the role thrown in it. correct me if i'm wrong, but we have sufficient personnel to do this with the line being peek/smith/johnson/babin and the lb's being greenwood/wong/anderson(?). DE's would just need to tack on 10-15lbs in the offseason to be in the typical freeney-rice-kea.rse mold.

i know he used to be a titan, but is kear.se really so bad that his name is filtered?
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We just expanded our word filter due to tons of people working around the filters.... I just adjusted it so Kearse shows up now.
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...so, the Pats used a 4 man frt the entire game plus they didn't beat
the run to death when it was obvious the Raiders were keying on the run--
talk about adjustments--anxious to see how Capers game plans for the
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If you look at the games from last year you should take note that we were in a 4 man line quite often as well.
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If you look at the games from last year you should take note that we were in a 4 man line quite often as well.
Isn't that what we do for our nickel package? 2 DL, 4 LB(2 OLB lining up on the line), and 5 DBs.
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Yeah, it's been pretty common for the last few years. Depends on the package and the opponent's formations and personel.
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...so, the Pats used a 4 man frt the entire game plus they didn't beat
the run to death when it was obvious the Raiders were keying on the run--
talk about adjustments--anxious to see how Capers game plans for the
Bills!
that's the knock on capers. he has a gameplan and he's going to plow through it whether it's working or not. i really think belichick doesnt have a game plan going into each game ... he has an idea. plans are written, ideas are free flowing and change to the situation. it doesnt hurt that belichick has complete trust in his coaches. seeing that kid calling plays was fantastic ... it looked to me as if belichick decided how things needed to be done and trusted his coaches & players to do it. i believe capers was the right man to help build this team, but as far as gameday is concerned, he's near the bottom of the list of guys i'd want calling the shots. we have 5 capable receivers and a running back that's fantastic, but not comperable to dillan (yet), although if our running game is being shut down we wont see 4-5 widouts the entire length of the field to expose the defense. nor will we see 6 men on the line on first down, or 4 guys blitzing the left tackle. (the best play i saw from the pats was where they had 3 linemen shifted right, and 4 OLB/DB's stacked 2x2 on the weakside ... the front two dropped back, the second pair blitzed wide, the DT pushed right, and the outside DE pulled towards the center ... the DE and a DB came in untouched). our receivers are as talented as NE's, and (without bruschi) so is our LB core ... however we wont have anything resembling their success until the coaching staff is on par (and our front 5+carr figure things out).

dont get me wrong, i think capers is a great coach and a great teacher. however, his strengths are monday through saturday, and it appears to me atleast that he wont let his sunday guys do their job.

oops ... i try not to ramble here but there it goes. hopefully there's some sense in there.

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that's the knock on capers. he has a gameplan and he's going to plow through it whether it's working or not. i really think belichick doesnt have a game plan going into each game ... he has an idea. plans are written, ideas are free flowing and change to the situation. it doesnt hurt that belichick has complete trust in his coaches. seeing that kid calling plays was fantastic ... it looked to me as if bellichek decided how things needed to be done and trusted his coaches & players to do it. i believe capers was the right man to help build this team, but as far as gameday is concerned, he's near the bottom of the list of guys i'd want calling the shots. we have 5 capable receivers and a running back that's fantastic, but not comperable to dillan (yet), although if our running game is being shut down we wont see 4-5 widouts the entire length of the field to expose the defense. nor will we see 6 men on the line on first down, or 4 guys blitzing the left tackle. (the best play i saw from the pats was where the had 3 linemen shifted right, and 4 OLB/DB's stacked 2x2 on the weakside ... the front two dropped back, the second pair blitzed wide, the DT pushed right, and the outside DE pulled towards the center ... the DE and a DB came in untouched). our receivers are as talented as NE's, and (without bruschi) so is our LB core ... however we wont have anything resembling their success until the coaching staff is on par (and our front 5+carr figure things out).

dont get me wrong, i think capers is a great coach and a great teacher. however, his strengths are monday through saturday, and it appears to me atleast that he wont let his sunday guys do their job.

oops ... i try not to ramble here but there it goes. hopefully there's some sense in there.
It is a fact that Capers and Bellichek are known as defensive gurus. The
difference is that Bellichek 'sees' the entire team, Capers doesn't. Too,
though known as a strict/tough/rigid coach, Bellichek is not set in 'concrete'
in his ways like Capers. Sure, both men like to run and both like ball con-
trol but-unlike for Capers-it is not a passion/necessity/ or full game
requirement. No, for Bellichek, winning is all that matters and he will use
any means/method/play or players to achieve that goal. Not Capers. Too,
the Patriots 'practice' game time which means there is little they will see
in the game they did not already see in practice. Bellechik never puts blame
on the players but is quick to pass out the credit and excuses are not
allowed or accepted from anyone in Patriot Nation. The press runs into a
brick wall when they try to get Bellichek to use an excuse for losing a game.
More than once on the Pats website, he has said every team has its
problems/injuries/new players,etc,--that's a given--how you choose to deal
with them is not...here's hoping the Texans can begin to turn it around! Is Capers going to lead us to the 'promise land?' I don't know but...somewhere,
a clock has got to be ticking.
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