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Old 09-08-2005   #21
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They were, but only one was a Pro Bowler as a CB.
McGee actually played two full quarters as the second CB.
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McGee actually played two full quarters as the second CB.
Yes he did, but he made the Pro Bowl for special teams.
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McGee actually played two full quarters as the second CB.
And McGee only made it because of New York Press. I can think of a cornerback that deserved to go way more than McGee.
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Yes he did, but he made the Pro Bowl for special teams.
And he played two full quarters as a CB. Or did you not watch that game too.
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And he played two full quarters as a CB. Or did you not watch that game too.
How about you boys take your bickering elsewhere.

And what a silly argument anyway--McGee went as a kick return specialist. It doesn't matter if he lined up at center for the whole game, he isn't a pro-bowl center or CB, he is a pro-bowl kick returner.
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And he played two full quarters as a CB. Or did you not watch that game too.
You're not hearing what I'm saying. Yes, he's one of our two CB's that made the Pro Bowl. Yes, he played 2 quarters as a CB. BUT, he did not make the Pro Bowl BECAUSE of is CB skills. He made the Pro Bowl because of his RETURN abilities.
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How about you boys take your bickering elsewhere.

And what a silly argument anyway--McGee went as a kick return specialist. It doesn't matter if he lined up at center for the whole game, he isn't a pro-bowl center or CB, he is a pro-bowl kick returner.
THAT'S what I'm trying to get across.
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CB advantage Houston? Both our guys were Pro Bowlers last year.
One of ours should have been at least rookie of the year and Buc can change a game in one play.
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One of ours should have been at least rookie of the year and Buc can change a game in one play.
He can change a game in one play, but it could go either way.
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He can change a game in one play, but it could go either way.
Unfortunatly...that's true based on his history. Hopefully Hoke will influence his play to be more consistant.
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that breakdown lost all credibility when he compared Coleman and a backup to Milloy and Vincent as a PUSH...
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Hello Texans fans, just wanted to wish you good luck this season. Hopefully well have a good hard fought game with no injuries ( and a Bills win )
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Hello Texans fans, just wanted to wish you good luck this season. Hopefully well have a good hard fought game with no injuries ( and a Bills win )
Really a great thread Vinny.

Thanks Carl u 2. I'm really gripping about the o-line. You guys have such a great defensive scheme. We're really going to have to get lucky to eeck out a win. Maybe we can get DD going enough to launch a few to Andre.
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thanks, I really wanted this thread to be an archive of sorts for good articles and links that lead up to the game so we could look back and enjoy how each week unfolded in one thread. I'd like to do it each week with everyone dropping in articles as they browse the internet looking for banter on the weekly matchups...from our Texans fans and our opponents fans alike... Hopefully we can make this work.
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QB Advantage: HOUSTON
RB Advantage: PUSH
FB Advantage: PUSH
WR Advantage: BUFFALO
TE Advantage: PUSH (Both are horrible)
OL Advantage: BUFFALO
DL Advantage: BUFFALO
LB Advantage: BUFFALO
CB Advantage: HOUSTON
S Advantage: PUSH
K/P Advantage: HOUSTON
COACHING Advantage: HOUSTON
QB Advantage: Houston. No arguments here.

RB Advantage: Push. Buffalo probably gets a slight edge, but a push is fine.

FB Advantage: Buffalo. Shelton should have made the Pro Bowl last year. Edge to Buffalo.

WR Advantage: Buffalo. Johnson's a stud, but Buffalo's corp is deeper and better.

TE Advantage: Push. Fair enough.

OL Advantage: Push. I'd say push, we have two new guys and a starter questionable.

DL Advantage: Buffalo. Agreed.

LB Advantage: Buffalo. No doubt here, Buffalo has one of the top 3 LB corps.

CB Advantage: Push. Clements is as good as they come and McGee wasn't spectacular, but very solid. Dunta has a pretty good year, but he's not on Clements' level yet. Buchanon's bonehead plays will hurt as much as his great plays will help.

S Advantage: Buffalo. This is where you're way off. The advantage goes to Buffalo and it's not even close.

Special Teams Advantage: Buffalo. Buffalo had the best special teams in the NFL last year. Moorman is an incredible punter. Kicker goes to Houston, but overall special teams advantage is strongly on Buffalo's side.

Coaching Advantage: Push. Buffalo's half time adjustments were tops in the league (no team scored a TD on Buffalo in the 3rd quarter last year) and Mularkey did a helluva job rallying the team from an 0-4 start. Capers has yet to prove anything in Houston. I say push.

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There were times last season when Jason Babin didn’t feel like himself. Overwhelmed by the transition from defensive end to outside linebacker, not to mention mid-major college football at Western Michigan to the NFL, Babin’s head was spinning.

The Texans’ 3-4 attack was tough to handle. Babin, the 27th overall pick in the 2004 draft, improved each week, but still had trouble picking up plays and knowing exactly where he was supposed to be each snap. “I would stand there and wonder if it’s a pass or run play,” Babin said. “That’s something that hurt me last year.”

Babin didn’t hide his confusion. Defensive coordinator Vic Fangio sensed the rookie’s frustration. To some extent, Fangio anticipated that Babin would struggle to reach a comfort level. “I’m sure he never totally felt comfortable at any point during the season,” Fangio said. “There were times where he had some good runs and some stretches of good play. Then there were times you could tell he wasn’t playing as well. A lot of it was due to being uncomfortable and the newness of the position.”

This summer, Babin took a break from the film room to ease his mind. He dropped a few pounds and worked on his quickness and agility. When Babin showed up to training camp, Fangio’s defense suddenly seemed like arithmetic. “I can’t really tell you why,” Babin said. “But I came out here this year and it all came together. Now I know what I’m doing. I’m not worried about what I have to do, my technique, my assignment.”

Fans that attended practice during the preseason could have closed their eyes and noticed the difference in Babin’s game. No longer preoccupied by his pre-snap reads and play calls, Babin barks out orders and even communicates with the opposition, something he rarely did during his rookie year. “I can actually go out there and have some fun, look at the guys and talk a little trash,” Babin said. “I’m taking the next step where I can read sets of tackles and tight ends. I can look at formations a little longer.”

Babin rolls his eyes at the mention of his 76 tackles, four sacks, two fumble recoveries and one pass defensed in 2004. Not that those stats are poor for a first-year player, especially given his circumstances. But the 6-2, 255-pounder from Paw Paw, Mich. sets high standards. Plus, he can’t help but have one of those “if I only knew then what I know now” feelings when he sees the mistakes he made on film. “I went back and watched the tape and there were numerous times where if I just ran the right way or did the right stunt that I would have had the opportunity to get a sack,” he said. “So I think that should improve. My goal is to just do better than I did last year.”

This season, Babin doesn’t have to wait long to see how he stacks up against the league’s best. His adversary Sunday is 6-6, 370-pound right tackle Mike Williams. The Buffalo Bills’ first-round pick in the 2002 NFL Draft might be familiar to Texans fans because he played at the University of Texas.

In meetings this week, Fangio has emphasized to Babin that he needs to be elusive in the pass rush and keep a low center of gravity against the run. If Babin tries to out-muscle Williams, it could be a long day. “Williams is listed at 370, so he’s probably more than that,” Fangio said. “So he’s a guy that you can’t really get into a lot of wrestling matches with. You’re going to have to use speed and quickness to try and beat him, but yet do a good job of hankering into him when it is a running play. It’s a tough matchup for Jason just from a size standpoint.”

Among the Texans’ primary concerns against Buffalo will be quarterback J.P. Losman’s scrambling ability. What the first-time starter lacks in experience, he compensates for with his elusiveness. Babin can’t afford to overextend himself when he’s collapsing the pocket. “There’s no question about that,” Fangio said. “Obviously, with a right-handed quarterback, Losman is going to scramble to our left, his right, more times than not. Hold and contain will be a big part of Jason’s job this week.”

Babin certainly has a lot on his mind heading into Week 1. But instead of allowing that to slow him down, he looks forward to picking up the pace. “I’m feeling really good,” he said. “It’s all coming to me like second nature.”
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The last time Morlon Greenwood faced the Buffalo Bills, he recorded 11 tackles to lead his team. Nine months later, he is playing a new position for a new team in a different division. Since the Texans have played the Bills only twice in the regular season, Greenwood ’s familiarity with Buffalo could prove to be beneficial come Sunday afternoon.

While the Texans prepare for Sunday’s season opener, Greenwood has shed light on what his teammates can expect from the Bills. As for what the team should expect from Greenwood , linebackers coach Tom Olivadotti said he knows what Greenwood is capable of. “He’s a very smart, conscientious guy,” Olivadotti said. “He’s a great linebacker, a true professional. I expect him to do very well on Sunday.”

Greenwood spent the past four seasons playing outside linebacker for the Miami Dolphins. Since the Bills and the Dolphins are both in the AFC East, Greenwood has played Buffalo eight times in his career. Greenwood enjoyed success against the Bills’ offense in the past, but he played in a 4-3 defense in Miami opposed to the Texans’ 3-4. The change, however, doesn’t bother Greenwood . In fact, he embraces it. “It gives me an opportunity to be more productive,” Greenwood said. “In Miami , I played either right side or left side, so it doesn’t give you very good range. But playing inside gives me more range to be effective, and I can use my speed to get to the ball.”

That speed will come in handy against the Bills’ up-and-coming running back Willis McGahee, who became just the third player since 1970 to rush for more than 100 yards in his first three NFL starts last year. McGahee is an explosive young talent that if unaccounted for, could pose some big problems for the Texans’ defense. “He’s a very strong runner and he has great vision,” Greenwood said. “He’s very patient but when he hits a hole, he hits it at full speed. He’s a difficult guy to tackle because he has a great stiff arm. We have to be on the top of our game when playing a running back like McGahee.”

Greenwood said it is crucial that the Texans’ defense stay regimented if they want to contain McGahee, who marked 1,128 rushing yards in 2004 and whose 13 rushing touchdowns in a single season is second on the Bills’ all-time chart. The Texans need to tackle well and make sure they fill the correct gaps. “If McGahee sees an opening, he won’t hesitate to take it,” Greenwood said. “We all have to be very, very disciplined.”

One significant personnel change that Greenwood is unfamiliar with is the installation of second-year quarterback J.P. Losman into the starting lineup. Losman’s athleticism and mobility present defenses an array of new challenges. “I think Losman could cause some problems,” Greenwood said. “But as long as our defensive lineman are disciplined in their respective rush lanes, we’ll be able to keep him contained and keep him in the pocket. If we don’t do that, then obviously he can hurt us with his legs.”

Nobody on the Texans is more prepared than Greenwood to face Buffalo on Sunday. But the speedy inside linebacker is confident that his teammates will do just fine. “The only advice I can give my teammates, and they’ve already been doing it, is to continue to work hard and when it comes to Sunday, to play for 60 minutes,” Greenwood said. “Everybody needs to be disciplined. We need to play until the whistle blows and not give up because it’s going to be a tough game.”
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Payne coming home: Houston defensive tackle Seth Payne, the former Victor High football and wrestling standout, will be making another visit to western New York in an enemy uniform.

Payne has previously played in Ralph Wilson Stadium in 1997 and 1998 as a member of the Jacksonville Jaguars and then in 2003 when he was with Houston. The ninth-year NFL veteran has come away a winner in two of those games, the lone loss in '98 when Doug Flutie scooted around left end in the waning seconds to pull out a 17-16 victory for the Bills.

Payne came to the Texans in their inaugural season of 2002 as an expansion draft choice and has started 28 games over his first three years. He missed all but two games in 2003 because of a knee injury.
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This summer, Babin took a break from the film room to ease his mind. He dropped a few pounds and worked on his quickness and agility. When Babin showed up to training camp, Fangio’s defense suddenly seemed like arithmetic. “I can’t really tell you why,” Babin said. “But I came out here this year and it all came together. Now I know what I’m doing. I’m not worried about what I have to do, my technique, my assignment.”
That's an encouraging report about Babin's progress and I'm cauciously
optomistic. When we took him in last years Draft I read a lot about him
and was hopeful he'd be a real contributor to our efforts to pressure the
opposition's QBs as he'd done in college, and Im sure Cass thought so himself
else he wouldn't have paid so dearly for him. I've been afraid that his skills
were negated by the speed of the NFL game, but hopefully it was just his
inexperience in the league. I'll be amoung the many Texans fans watching
him closely Sunday to see if his second year shows us he is indeed the Edge pass rusher he was craked up to be when he came here out of college.
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ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (Sept. 7, 2005) -- Starting right guard Chris Villarrial twisted his ankle in practice and his status is uncertain for Buffalo's season opener against Houston.

Coach Mike Mularkey said Villarrial attended post-practice meetings and the team had not determined the severity of the injury. He added it's unlikely Villarrial will practice Sept. 8.

If the 10-year veteran can't play, Mularkey said he'll go with rookie fourth-round pick Duke Preston, who had a promising preseason playing both guard and center.

It's not clear how Villarrial was hurt or which ankle he injured; reporters are only allowed to watch the first 20 minutes of practice.

Starting cornerback Nate Clements missed his second straight practice with a shoulder injury, but expects to play.

Mularkey said he held Clements out for an extra day for precautionary reasons and anticipated the player to be ready.

It's unclear whether Clements, who also doubles as the team's punt returner, will play on special teams.

Clements was hurt when he and Troy Vincent teamed to tackle Lions receiver Roy Williams at the Bills 1 in the second quarter of Buffalo's final preseason game, a 21-7 loss to Detroit. Clements landed on his shoulder as he tumbled out of bounds.

Slot receiver Josh Reed (hamstring) did not practice, but is listed as probable.
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