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Old 09-04-2005   #41
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Its kinda funny , last season i was defending Bradford when he started slow as of now i think he's worthless . Another track guy trying to play WR ....He is straight line fast but he runs poor routes , cant catch and just doesnt get seperation despite his speed . And did i mention he cant catch ?

This isnt Madden and speed isnt everything . Give that guy some Stickem.


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Seems to me like they value experience more that production.
Ding, ding , ding, we have a winner. Capers is Sooooo conservative that he is tied up and wont put any stock in less experienced players because he KNOWS is job is on the line this year. Funny thing is, his failure to step out and use younger players might wind up bitting him in the butt. The moves I see them making, make little sense unless you look at them through the prizim of self preservation.
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Funny thing is, his failure to step out and use younger players might wind up bitting him in the butt. The moves I see them making, make little sense unless you look at them through the prizim of self preservation.

And how many rookies are starting this year ?
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And how many rookies are starting this year ?
brown maybe. mathis maybe. after that, i dont think any.
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And how many rookies are starting this year ?

C.C. Brown has been named the starter at SS against Buffalo according to most sources but if you check the Texans web page Earl is still listed as the starter .

Mathis is listed as the 5th reciever . He is listed as the #1 kick returner


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C.C. Brown has been named the starter at SS against Buffalo according to most sources but if you check the Texans web page Earl is still listed as the starter .

Mathis is listed as the 5th reciever . He is listed as the #1 kick returner


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5th receiver? i thoght he was higher than that.
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TJ will probably see some action at DT in obvious passing situations. If Capers is willing to let Brown start against Buffalo I doubt Earl will get his starting job back unless Brown performs really bad. Morrency will likely give DD a breather every now and then, and we'll probably see Mathis from time to time in the 3 and 4 WR sets.
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point being, there a few rookies that gets to start. IMO proof that Capers is NOT afraid to get young players on the team.
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is there really any issue as to wether capers is willing to start rookies? damn, all you have to do is look back over the last 3 seasons to know hes started many many rookies...

3 last year alone.
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is there really any issue as to wether capers is willing to start rookies? damn, all you have to do is look back over the last 3 seasons to know hes started many many rookies...

3 last year alone.
If anything over the last few years, even for an expansion team there can be more a case that can be made that the Texans have handed jobs out to inexperienced players like candy at Halloween.

It is amazing that people who have watched every game and followed the team closely all of a sudden forget all of that when they disagree with a couple of roster decisions.
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If anything over the last few years, even for an expansion team there can be more a case that can be made that the Texans have handed jobs out to inexperienced players like candy at Halloween.
That's kind of my point. He is unwilling to continue to use rookies because they make mistakes. With, what I suspect with his butt on the line, he is voting for the more consistant play of more veteran folks to win near tearm. He/they built the defense in the start using mostly veteran people including at deth spots for that reason. He is just playing close to the vest.
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That's kind of my point. He is unwilling to continue to use rookies because they make mistakes. With, what I suspect with his butt on the line, he is voting for the more consistant play of more veteran folks to win near tearm. He/they built the defense in the start using mostly veteran people including at deth spots for that reason. He is just playing close to the vest.
I think at some point your team needs to grow up and should not be dependent on more than a couple of rookies as key contributors. This team is still starting CC Brown a 6th round rookie, using a 4th round rookie as its primariy (starting) KR and have two others as the top back-up at thier position (morency & Travis Johnson). The 5th round pick made the final squad and the 7th rounder is on the practice squad. That is 6 draft picks all of whom have some role with the team. IMO, that's not really conservative.

If they were being close to the vest from a personnel standpoint Sharper, Foreman and Glenn would not have been replaced with younger and faster players.
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If they were being close to the vest from a personnel standpoint Sharper, Foreman and Glenn would not have been replaced with younger and faster players.
However, those players are not rookies, but experienced players who are younger and faster. May or may not be better, time will tell on that front. IMO, if Capers didn't feel he HAD to have a winning season, he would probably have cut Hollings and Bradford and had some less experienced folks on board. The sad thing is that there MIGHT be a better chance to have a better team with the younger guys.
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However, those players are not rookies, but experienced players who are younger and faster. May or may not be better, time will tell on that front. IMO, if Capers didn't feel he HAD to have a winning season, he would probably have cut Hollings and Bradford and had some less experienced folks on board. The sad thing is that there MIGHT be a better chance to have a better team with the younger guys.
How much younger do you want the skill position with the Texans to get?

Outside of Bradford, who is not ancient player, where are these grizzled veterans that Capers is banking a winning season on. Adding two rookies your skill unit is significantly adding to the inexperience level. If they were being conservative they would have kept Reggie Swinton (who is over 30) instead of giving the job to a rookie. Not fans huge fans of either one, Bradford and Hollings, but they are not representative of Capers feeling like he needs to win now.

Hollings-3rd year
Wells-4th
Morency-rookie
DomDavis=4th year

Gaffney-4th year
Armstrong-3rd year
Mathis -rookie
AJ-3rd year
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AT, I think your mis-reading what I am trying to say. Probably not saying it well. At this point IMO, Capers is more willing to go with known items and is afraid to change. It's a risk aversion thing IMO.
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What has he done since season number 1? Nada.

Should have kept Sloan Thomas & dumped #85.
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AT, I think your mis-reading what I am trying to say. Probably not saying it well. At this point IMO, Capers is more willing to go with known items and is afraid to change. It's a risk aversion thing IMO.
Okay, that reads very differently and probably I would went right by it.
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