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Old 09-01-2005   #1
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In my opinion playing ball in the offseason helped this kid alot , I think he's deffinately better than Banks right now , no reason he shouldnt be #2 , Last year I would have never guessed i would say that either
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Yeah, I noticed he had a good game. I'd probably have to agree with you.
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In my opinion playing ball in the offseason helped this kid alot , I think he's deffinately better than Banks right now , no reason he shouldnt be #2 , Last year I would have never guessed i would say that either
I think he should be the no. one QB Carr really sucked the past two games.
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Rags looked smooth, calm and in control out there. Best I've seen him play on this side of the pond.
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He definatly should be #2. I would be really interested to see how he would play with the 1st string offense.

Everyone is blaming the line on Carr's faults....im sorry but those 2 interceptions where on his shoulders. The line in my opinion has been performing very very well.

Carr is lacking and I hope that it is just because the offseason. The only other person Carr can blame is Palmers ridiculous play calling.

If I had to pick a QB based on the last two performances - Ragone is looking awfully good.
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In my opinion playing ball in the offseason helped this kid alot , I think he's deffinately better than Banks right now , no reason he shouldnt be #2 , Last year I would have never guessed i would say that either
I have a reason. How about that he has never won a NFL game in his life and has little playing experience. If he wants to be #2 then he needs to show that he can play when he gets the nod from capers in a real game situation. The last few years when he got playing time he really screwed up. All that said, he has improved and will have more chances.
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Dave Ragone should be #2 no doubt about it, he truely deserves it. Go Texans Dave from your fans from Middleburg Hts. Ohio
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I have a reason. How about that he has never won a NFL game in his life and has little playing experience. If he wants to be #2 then he needs to show that he can play when he gets the nod from capers in a real game situation. The last few years when he got playing time he really screwed up. All that said, he has improved and will have more chances.
That's what the NFLE experience and this preseason experience is for...as far as playing in the last few years, he played in 2 games his rookie year what did you expect him to do come in and be Brett Favre?
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That's what the NFLE experience and this preseason experience is for...as far as playing in the last few years, he played in 2 games his rookie year what did you expect him to do come in and be Brett Favre?
dont forget the dropped ball by andre near the right sideline when they played the bucs....but its not like i really remember these things

in fact that was the same game ragone completed a pass to himself! the man is just amazing.

but yes, i agree with the majority in saying ragone should be the immediate backup to carr leaving banks at the #3
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All I am saying is I think it's Bank's job to lose. He hasn't really messed up that much when he started for us and I think he is a little more proven in his ability. Yes, Ragone has improved alot from that year when he play the Jacksonville game, I would just be more comfortable if I could get those images out of my head.
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All I am saying is I think it's Bank's job to lose. He hasn't really messed up that much when he started for us and I think he is a little more proven in his ability. Yes, Ragone has improved alot from that year when he play the Jacksonville game, I would just be more comfortable if I could get those images out of my head.
Everytime I see Banks on the field I now hear Chris Berman in my head saying "bumblin' bumblin' fumblin'"...
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You have a point there. I agree that his play has seemed to be on a steady decline. It all depends on if he steps up to the challenge. I mean he did beat Carolina the year they went to the SB. Hopefully Carr will stay healthy and sharp and we won't have to see either one this season.
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well you always hope to never see the backup qb on the field (unless its a blowout and its in the 4th) but if it DOES happen than i want someone who can take control of this offense and not have to change our playcalling because of who we have in there under center.

IMO ragone is more mobile and can put a better touch on the ball than banks. hopefully he will jump over banks for the #2 spot.
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Ragone was 1st team Conference USA for 3 years in a row and is the only
player in the history of that Conference to be named Offensive Player of
the Year 3 times. He is no slouch and obviously has not had the work
with the 1st team that Carr/Banks have had. His NFL Profile talks about
his leadership, proper setup skills for throwing (shoulders squared/feet
planted/correct arm posisition,etv.),arm strength/touch on throws,long
ball accuracy,quick release,good ability at reading defenses,etc. There
is definitely a lot of upsde to Ragone, not just another 'pretty face.'
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2nd String How About Trying Him At First? Put Ragone In 1st Carr In 2nd And Let Banks Sit In Third If Nothing Else It Might Wake Some People Up
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So where's all the homers who flamed me in my post about david carr's postgame comments? Why aren't you here defending the man child?

Hmmmmmmm.....

I've said it in other posts: Ragone ought to start the opener and leave Carr on the sideline with the clipboard.

But, Carr's the golden boy who some think can do no wrong either on the field or off. Can't believe there is such silence from the Carr Defenders. I figured this post would be on fire by now.

I guess they went fishing today for more excuses regarding David "It's Just Preseason" Carr.
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I predict that we will see Ragone in week 4 against Cincy. Capers and Palmer will be scrambling to save their jobs and Carr's confidence should be pretty well shot by then.
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I agree. Ragone should start the year as the #2, with Carr on a short leash. If he doesn't look competent in the first two games, insert Ragone into the starters role during the bye week. Maybe demoting Carr might actually make him work harder, as I don't see the fire in the belly I am looking for out of him. Demoting the Golden Boy would also put everyone on notice....nobody gets by here on reputation. It's all about what you do on the field.
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The Carr defenders aren't here because there's nothing to defend. Ragone does potentially deserve a look as No. 2. But promoting Ragone ahead of Carr is the most insane, ridiculous thought I've ever seen on this message board and ever seen in my lifetime of talking football, for that matter. It's not worth anyone's time.
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